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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
June 18 2012 14:12 GMT
#1021
Nice to see NaNiwa adjust his PvZ style. Grinding out some games last night?
PaterPatriae
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany428 Posts
June 18 2012 14:12 GMT
#1022
On June 18 2012 23:11 Serelitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 23:10 PaterPatriae wrote:
On June 18 2012 23:09 radiantshadow92 wrote:
Well not gonna watch, boring without any t


and why should we care...?


It's the LR thread, implied balance whine is all what posts here are about


I know, but it bugs me everytime xD
RyF
Profile Joined October 2011
Austria508 Posts
June 18 2012 14:12 GMT
#1023
interesting note: not a single korean zerg showed up at Dreamhack. just imagine if...
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46224 Posts
June 18 2012 14:13 GMT
#1024
Dimaga looking to take game one against Protosser...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
June 18 2012 14:13 GMT
#1025
On June 18 2012 23:07 Aando wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 23:05 D-light wrote:
Let's go Protosser!

Suomi perkele!

Prinssimakafanientanssii!

Did I do it right?


prinssi = prince, fanien = fans' , tanssii = dances
makes no sense ? :D


Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
June 18 2012 14:13 GMT
#1026
On June 18 2012 23:09 Sp00ly wrote:
Naniwa leaves right as +1 finishes? Errr... could he not have stuck around?


My stream wasn't working for a moment, when I read your post I thought he idra'd when his timing didn't work.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 18 2012 14:13 GMT
#1027
On June 18 2012 23:12 bokchoi wrote:
Nice to see NaNiwa adjust his PvZ style. Grinding out some games last night?

with SaSe, no doubt!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 18 2012 14:13 GMT
#1028
Good timing by Naniwa. Before BLs.
I had a good night of sleep.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46224 Posts
June 18 2012 14:13 GMT
#1029
Naniwa leaving that colossus all alone in the middle of the map... please put it back in your army x.x
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
wildstyle1337
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland514 Posts
June 18 2012 14:13 GMT
#1030
On June 18 2012 23:11 Ertu wrote:
This tournament has been one of the lamest and most boring I can remember in SC history. It's not really Dreamhack's fault as well,just the upper side of the bracket was really stacked and the lower doesn't have that much power. Also no Terrans in Ro8, just sad It's a good thing the Dota 2 tournament has been great so far, I can watch that instead.


leave and close the door, there were so many intense close games how the hell somebody can say it is boring
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
June 18 2012 14:14 GMT
#1031
colossus so lazy!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
June 18 2012 14:14 GMT
#1032
On June 18 2012 23:11 Serelitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 23:10 PaterPatriae wrote:
On June 18 2012 23:09 radiantshadow92 wrote:
Well not gonna watch, boring without any t


and why should we care...?


It's the LR thread, implied balance whine is all what posts here are about


I must have missed your implied balance whine. Want to clarify?
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
June 18 2012 14:14 GMT
#1033
On June 18 2012 23:10 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 23:09 Serelitz wrote:
On June 18 2012 23:07 ZeromuS wrote:
On June 18 2012 23:00 Serelitz wrote:
On June 18 2012 22:58 ZeromuS wrote:
On June 18 2012 22:55 Ghanburighan wrote:
On June 18 2012 22:50 Serelitz wrote:
On June 18 2012 22:48 Moriarty wrote:
zvz pvp zvz pvp pvz pvz pvz. FUCKING BORING AS SHIT.


Speak for yourself, PvZ is a very fun matchup to watch. It beats bio vs infestor/ling/roach TvZ imo.


Remember when the Archon Toilet was a Funday Monday strategy? (1h into http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEwDU0DPIiY)


Remember when the archon toilet would also destroy ground units? They patched it. And the archon toilet only works vs stacked broodlords no other air units nearly as well. Let us also be fair with regards to how strong that composition is. If The zerg forces an engagement and protoss hasn't been able to exploit the immobility of Zerg to destroy their econ, you can't really beat a broodlord force without the archon toilet in any sort of direct engagement. Unless you get a hidden mass void carrier transition its just not going to happen.


And really, zergs have learned that Roach/Hydra doesnt always work that well ^^; it's a bit like muta/ling/bane vs T, only instead of making it less enjoyable to watch as the metagame evolved PvZ is now a very fun MU now that it's no longer colossus turtles vs roach/hydra macro.


I really dislike a reliance on archon toilet though and fragility of taking a third base against max roaching Zerg.

I hope protoss finds a way to slow down Zerg just enough so that max roach isn't as big a deal as it is now.


I don't see max roach/ling kill 3rd bases vs P all that much anymore myself. Then again a lot of Ps still 2base PvZ a lot of the time which isn't necessarily bad to watch but it does mean getting into lategame on equal footing is almost an impossibility.


Instead of killing the third, Korean Zergs have been mixing in roach drops and dropping the main attacking the third and running lings into the nat. Especially on daybreak and antiga and protoss just can't split the army well enough to deal with it.


I can't recall who it was, but I think in one of the first 4 code S GSL groups this season we saw a P grab an early 3rd and then make pylons+cannons between the natural and 3rd area on Antiga, along with a gateway/cannon wall at the rocks. Early roach max all ins were a much bigger problem a few months ago so I think that over time pro Ps will become better and better at defending it.

If hero beats mana we should see at least 1 game demonstrating this I hope.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
June 18 2012 14:15 GMT
#1034
On June 18 2012 23:11 Ertu wrote:
This tournament has been one of the lamest and most boring I can remember in SC history. It's not really Dreamhack's fault as well,just the upper side of the bracket was really stacked and the lower doesn't have that much power. Also no Terrans in Ro8, just sad It's a good thing the Dota 2 tournament has been great so far, I can watch that instead.


Tell me why we should care?
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
June 18 2012 14:15 GMT
#1035
NANIWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
June 18 2012 14:15 GMT
#1036
Dimaga takes game 1! Woo woo!
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46224 Posts
June 18 2012 14:15 GMT
#1037
YEAH NANIWA!!! 1-0
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
June 18 2012 14:15 GMT
#1038
Nice work Naniwa!
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 18 2012 14:15 GMT
#1039
Solid game NaNi!
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
June 18 2012 14:15 GMT
#1040
holy cow pvz looks bad
Terran & Potato Salad.
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