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On June 18 2012 23:03 zezamer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 23:01 Yello wrote: Is there more need for live reporting for the next games? Also could someone recap Taeja vs Hero for me? game 1: hero hallu dt expo vs 1 rax expo, splits dt:s well, kinda bad scans from taeja, taeja gg:s game 2: taeja 1 rax expo into fast 3rd, hero 2 base colo all in with fake 3rd, hero rolls over
Ok thanks. Doesn't sound like good games to me Oo
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On June 18 2012 23:02 Champloo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 23:00 Sated wrote:On June 18 2012 22:59 Champloo wrote:On June 18 2012 22:52 Stratos_speAr wrote:On June 18 2012 22:51 Bagi wrote: The only thing worse than GomTvT is a tournament without terrans.
Seriously, they have the best match-ups of any race from a spectator POV. While this is true, ZvP is still a great match to watch. The problem is that we are very likely to see PvP/ZvZ a lot (or even in the finals), which would be horrific. Those two mirrors are terrible to watch. Hmm, I like both ZvZ and PvP a lot more than PvZ (worst matchup imo). Early game mass roach lame or protoss 2base lame Late game broodlord/infestor/spine lame or archon toilet lame Just the most boring matchup to watch. JYP had a game yesterday where he slowly traded out units for a mass Carrier late-game in PvZ. So awesome <3 Yes, it's cool if you don't see carriers that often, but HasuObs does that in almost every PvZ and it takes fucking hours and nothing is happening in these games, just boring.
Then it's hasuobs' games that are boring and stale ^^;
Personally I love PvZ on non-symmetric maps like Entombed or Antiga. No straight BL push through the middle means that it's always about multitasking and Z's ability to defend it, assuming both players get into the lategame on roughly equal footing.
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Slivko vs. Naniwa starting on b stream!
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On June 18 2012 23:03 torm3ntin wrote: Don't want to get in any balance discussion. But no more T's are kinda borring to watch from now on. P's and Z's are used to this happening to our races. Hf with these tours until buff/new metagame is figured out
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On June 18 2012 23:04 Yello wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 23:03 zezamer wrote:On June 18 2012 23:01 Yello wrote: Is there more need for live reporting for the next games? Also could someone recap Taeja vs Hero for me? game 1: hero hallu dt expo vs 1 rax expo, splits dt:s well, kinda bad scans from taeja, taeja gg:s game 2: taeja 1 rax expo into fast 3rd, hero 2 base colo all in with fake 3rd, hero rolls over Ok thanks. Doesn't sound like good games to me Oo
Hmm the game 1 was ok. Game 2 felt kind bo win with good mind game from Hero.
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On June 18 2012 23:04 Yello wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 23:03 zezamer wrote:On June 18 2012 23:01 Yello wrote: Is there more need for live reporting for the next games? Also could someone recap Taeja vs Hero for me? game 1: hero hallu dt expo vs 1 rax expo, splits dt:s well, kinda bad scans from taeja, taeja gg:s game 2: taeja 1 rax expo into fast 3rd, hero 2 base colo all in with fake 3rd, hero rolls over Ok thanks. Doesn't sound like good games to me Oo
Hero used hallucinate to get topground vision in terrans base using lower ground to warp in DT's. That was great. Just a really good strategy and would watch again
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[QUOTE]On June 18 2012 23:03 zezamer wrote: [QUOTE]On June 18 2012 23:01 Yello wrote:
game 2: taeja 1 rax expo into fast 3rd, hero 2 base colo all in with fake 3rd, hero rolls over[/QUOTE]
the funny thing is, he had ~300+ mins the whole time, so the nexus cancel did hurt him alot more than the fake cancel supported the push.
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LiveZerg 2-0'd Naniwa in the group stage, I think Slivko has a shot here.
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Let's go Protosser!
Suomi perkele!
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Naniwa vs Slivko, I wonder if Slivko will knock Naniwa out of DH again, just like last time. Slivko's slowly been on the rise but I haven't seen as much of him as I should.
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Round of 16: NaNiwa vs sLivko
Game 1: Cloud Kingdom Naniwa is spawning as the red Protoss in the 2 o'clock position Slivko is spawning as the blue Zerg in the 8 o'clock position
4:00min
Naniwa going FFE, now Gate and Cybernetics Core Slivko going for the standard fast 3 bases
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On June 18 2012 23:00 Enzymatic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 22:59 Asymmetric wrote: Whats nerchio's ZvP like these day?
I havent really watched it in awhile. Always top notch. Korean level ZvP. (Not that ZvP is overly hard for Zerg right now), but just saying, Nerchio has always had really amazing zvp. He's one of those players like Stephano that just "gets" the match-up.
Wait what? ZvP has been Nerchio's worst matchup for a long time and he really has problems even against lesser known protoss players. No idea why you're thinking his ZvP is korean level, lol.
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Man, Protosser is such an awesome name.
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On June 18 2012 23:06 Yello wrote:Round of 16: NaNiwa vs sLivkoGame 1: Cloud Kingdom Naniwa is spawning as the red Protoss in the 2 o'clock position Slivko is spawning as the blue Zerg in the 8 o'clock position 4:00min Naniwa going FFE, now Gate and Cybernetics Core Slivko going for the standard fast 3 bases
Thank you for all your LRs
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On June 18 2012 23:00 Serelitz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 22:58 ZeromuS wrote:On June 18 2012 22:55 Ghanburighan wrote:On June 18 2012 22:50 Serelitz wrote:On June 18 2012 22:48 Moriarty wrote: zvz pvp zvz pvp pvz pvz pvz. FUCKING BORING AS SHIT. Speak for yourself, PvZ is a very fun matchup to watch. It beats bio vs infestor/ling/roach TvZ imo. Remember when the Archon Toilet was a Funday Monday strategy? (1h into http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEwDU0DPIiY) Remember when the archon toilet would also destroy ground units? They patched it. And the archon toilet only works vs stacked broodlords no other air units nearly as well. Let us also be fair with regards to how strong that composition is. If The zerg forces an engagement and protoss hasn't been able to exploit the immobility of Zerg to destroy their econ, you can't really beat a broodlord force without the archon toilet in any sort of direct engagement. Unless you get a hidden mass void carrier transition its just not going to happen. And really, zergs have learned that Roach/Hydra doesnt always work that well ^^; it's a bit like muta/ling/bane vs T, only instead of making it less enjoyable to watch as the metagame evolved PvZ is now a very fun MU now that it's no longer colossus turtles vs roach/hydra macro.
I really dislike a reliance on archon toilet though and fragility of taking a third base against max roaching Zerg.
I hope protoss finds a way to slow down Zerg just enough so that max roach isn't as big a deal as it is now.
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On June 18 2012 23:00 nucLeaRTV wrote: Aaaaaand all the Terrans are out.
AAAAand its no big deal. Terrans had years of domination. Let's give them a rest this tournament.
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On June 18 2012 23:05 Bagi wrote: LiveZerg 2-0'd Naniwa in the group stage, I think Slivko has a shot here.
Slivko 2-1 or 2-0'd Naniwa at the last DH and knocked him out in the last group stage.
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On June 18 2012 23:06 Champloo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 23:00 Enzymatic wrote:On June 18 2012 22:59 Asymmetric wrote: Whats nerchio's ZvP like these day?
I havent really watched it in awhile. Always top notch. Korean level ZvP. (Not that ZvP is overly hard for Zerg right now), but just saying, Nerchio has always had really amazing zvp. He's one of those players like Stephano that just "gets" the match-up. Wait what? ZvP has been Nerchio's worst matchup for a long time and he really has problems even against lesser known protoss players. No idea why you're thinking his ZvP is korean level, lol.
http://www.sc2-replays.net/en/
go Advanced Search Nerchio's ZvP's and go tell me what % of them he's losing in the results. Then come back here.
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On June 18 2012 23:06 Nekovivie wrote: Man, Protosser is such an awesome name.
Especially because he plays Zerg.
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