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Vardant
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic620 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 06:40:53
June 19 2012 06:40 GMT
#7281
On June 19 2012 15:32 Reactivate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 09:24 AzoriuS wrote:
On June 19 2012 09:13 Ammanas wrote:
I think this community is full of hypocrites. When MVP analyzes his opponent in GSL and plays to counter him (involving bunker rushes and other kinds of cheese) everyone is like "Oh, so smart, so gosu..." When Mana does the same in DH (he specifically prepared builds against both, Stephano and Dimaga, everyone is like "boring, two base all in scrub" etc... Its just not fair to the players imo.

There are two ways how to win tournaments - either you are so good that you brute force your way through your opponents just with your playstyle (but only DRG, MKP and very few others can do this) or you play like Mana did - you prepare and you play to your opponents weakness (Nestea, MMA and MVP are all doing that)... I think he deserves respect.

btw, problem with protoss imo is, that they have the potential to create the most epic and best games of all races (Ace vs B4 in up and downs comes to mind, or Hero vs Idra in DH Valencia for example) and everyone is dissapointed that not every game is like that...


Im so happy that someone noticed this. I wrote similar post and got note about "Polish fanboy". Bunch of kids support some famous names in SC2 and because of that they are really blind. There are only little group of players who can cheese, play 2base attacks and their fans write about "unique playstyle". They dont realize that even Boxer scv rushed Yellow in one of the finals sc bw tourney 3 times in a row.


This!
I've been a longtime fan of Mana since I saw his awsome games against Nama at dreamhack winter 2010, casted by Apollo and Day9. He took 2nd place at that time unfortunately.

In this tournanament he played almost flawless and has beaten some of the best players. The guy is full of talent and potential and let's please nog forget that he isn't a full time gamer because he still attends school. This was just well deserved and I hope he can keep this pace up. Cheers to you Mana!


He's done with school now. He was training full time since then.
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
June 19 2012 06:40 GMT
#7282
On June 19 2012 15:30 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 15:24 Fanta_Rules wrote:
ThorZaIN said he was easily the best Mouz player, that he didn't have anyone to compete with there, and that's why he left Mousesports for EG. Not only was that statement arrogant, but also false. In my opinion, MaNa is more talented than ThorZAiN. Also, EG sucked ass in Dreamhack. Take that, traitor.


and now thorzain is one of eg's worst player :D

EG curse never fails.
Reactivate
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands26 Posts
June 19 2012 06:44 GMT
#7283
On June 19 2012 15:40 Vardant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 15:32 Reactivate wrote:
On June 19 2012 09:24 AzoriuS wrote:
On June 19 2012 09:13 Ammanas wrote:
I think this community is full of hypocrites. When MVP analyzes his opponent in GSL and plays to counter him (involving bunker rushes and other kinds of cheese) everyone is like "Oh, so smart, so gosu..." When Mana does the same in DH (he specifically prepared builds against both, Stephano and Dimaga, everyone is like "boring, two base all in scrub" etc... Its just not fair to the players imo.

There are two ways how to win tournaments - either you are so good that you brute force your way through your opponents just with your playstyle (but only DRG, MKP and very few others can do this) or you play like Mana did - you prepare and you play to your opponents weakness (Nestea, MMA and MVP are all doing that)... I think he deserves respect.

btw, problem with protoss imo is, that they have the potential to create the most epic and best games of all races (Ace vs B4 in up and downs comes to mind, or Hero vs Idra in DH Valencia for example) and everyone is dissapointed that not every game is like that...


Im so happy that someone noticed this. I wrote similar post and got note about "Polish fanboy". Bunch of kids support some famous names in SC2 and because of that they are really blind. There are only little group of players who can cheese, play 2base attacks and their fans write about "unique playstyle". They dont realize that even Boxer scv rushed Yellow in one of the finals sc bw tourney 3 times in a row.


This!
I've been a longtime fan of Mana since I saw his awsome games against Nama at dreamhack winter 2010, casted by Apollo and Day9. He took 2nd place at that time unfortunately.

In this tournanament he played almost flawless and has beaten some of the best players. The guy is full of talent and potential and let's please nog forget that he isn't a full time gamer because he still attends school. This was just well deserved and I hope he can keep this pace up. Cheers to you Mana!


He's done with school now. He was training full time since then.


Oh well...in that case this is the result of that. Not to shabby and it shows he's a very good player.
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
June 19 2012 06:46 GMT
#7284
On June 19 2012 15:40 Fanta_Rules wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 15:30 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On June 19 2012 15:24 Fanta_Rules wrote:
ThorZaIN said he was easily the best Mouz player, that he didn't have anyone to compete with there, and that's why he left Mousesports for EG. Not only was that statement arrogant, but also false. In my opinion, MaNa is more talented than ThorZAiN. Also, EG sucked ass in Dreamhack. Take that, traitor.


and now thorzain is one of eg's worst player :D

EG curse never fails.


To be fair, Thorzain was in a group full of zergs.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
June 19 2012 06:49 GMT
#7285
Btw may I just say how an outstanding job Incontrol did well goes for all the casters but Incontrol was a joy to watch the hole weekend as a commentator and as host in the final!
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
iGoTThiZ
Profile Joined August 2011
103 Posts
June 19 2012 06:50 GMT
#7286
Not trying to troll but is Khaldor gay? serious question. After watching him cast with Incontrol for so long, his reactions just gave me that vibe that he might be. Got nothing against gay just curious.
DownAnotherDay
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada69 Posts
June 19 2012 06:53 GMT
#7287
On June 19 2012 15:50 iGoTThiZ wrote:
Not trying to troll but is Khaldor gay? serious question. After watching him cast with Incontrol for so long, his reactions just gave me that vibe that he might be. Got nothing against gay just curious.


You sit beside Geoff for 12 hours straight and see if you can control yourself.

Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
June 19 2012 07:02 GMT
#7288
Congrats Mana!!! Deserves it for all the times hes gone so far!!!
Live and Let Die!
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
June 19 2012 07:07 GMT
#7289
On June 19 2012 15:50 iGoTThiZ wrote:
Not trying to troll but is Khaldor gay? serious question. After watching him cast with Incontrol for so long, his reactions just gave me that vibe that he might be. Got nothing against gay just curious.


What does it matter?
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2595 Posts
June 19 2012 07:10 GMT
#7290
On June 19 2012 15:50 iGoTThiZ wrote:
Not trying to troll but is Khaldor gay? serious question. After watching him cast with Incontrol for so long, his reactions just gave me that vibe that he might be. Got nothing against gay just curious.

In what universe is this a serious question? What relevance could the sexuality of a guy you listen to talk about a video game on TV possibly have to you?

Unless Khaldor decides to make an official announcement regarding where he prefers to stick his pecker, it's none of your business and asking about it is silly and immature.
The frumious Bandersnatch
iGoTThiZ
Profile Joined August 2011
103 Posts
June 19 2012 07:10 GMT
#7291
On June 19 2012 15:53 DownAnotherDay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 15:50 iGoTThiZ wrote:
Not trying to troll but is Khaldor gay? serious question. After watching him cast with Incontrol for so long, his reactions just gave me that vibe that he might be. Got nothing against gay just curious.


You sit beside Geoff for 12 hours straight and see if you can control yourself.




Lol. On a side note i loved their chemistry and overall cast. Nice combination of jokes and intelligence which makes a perfect combo for me.
iGoTThiZ
Profile Joined August 2011
103 Posts
June 19 2012 07:13 GMT
#7292
On June 19 2012 16:10 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 15:50 iGoTThiZ wrote:
Not trying to troll but is Khaldor gay? serious question. After watching him cast with Incontrol for so long, his reactions just gave me that vibe that he might be. Got nothing against gay just curious.

In what universe is this a serious question? What relevance could the sexuality of a guy you listen to talk about a video game on TV possibly have to you?

Unless Khaldor decides to make an official announcement regarding where he prefers to stick his pecker, it's none of your business and asking about it is silly and immature.


Well normally people would think i am trolling or trying to talk shit about him which i was not with my question. It was just out of curiousity on my part, not really a big deal.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 19 2012 07:17 GMT
#7293
On June 19 2012 15:50 iGoTThiZ wrote:
Not trying to troll but is Khaldor gay? serious question. After watching him cast with Incontrol for so long, his reactions just gave me that vibe that he might be. Got nothing against gay just curious.


Thats not even a trollpost, simply a question one doesnt ask. And FYI he has a gf as far as i KNow.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
June 19 2012 07:35 GMT
#7294
On June 19 2012 15:50 iGoTThiZ wrote:
Not trying to troll but is Khaldor gay? serious question. After watching him cast with Incontrol for so long, his reactions just gave me that vibe that he might be. Got nothing against gay just curious.


Dude Khaldor is as strait as they come. Matter infact im pretty sure he get laid more times then you can post on this forum. Also what a strange quistion.
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
June 19 2012 07:35 GMT
#7295
On June 19 2012 16:13 iGoTThiZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 16:10 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On June 19 2012 15:50 iGoTThiZ wrote:
Not trying to troll but is Khaldor gay? serious question. After watching him cast with Incontrol for so long, his reactions just gave me that vibe that he might be. Got nothing against gay just curious.

In what universe is this a serious question? What relevance could the sexuality of a guy you listen to talk about a video game on TV possibly have to you?

Unless Khaldor decides to make an official announcement regarding where he prefers to stick his pecker, it's none of your business and asking about it is silly and immature.


Well normally people would think i am trolling or trying to talk shit about him which i was not with my question. It was just out of curiousity on my part, not really a big deal.


Well unless you are that way inclined yourself, and have feelings you are wanting to act upon, there really is no need to even ask.

If you are, you may end up disappointed.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
June 19 2012 07:51 GMT
#7296
On June 19 2012 15:24 Fanta_Rules wrote:
ThorZaIN said he was easily the best Mouz player, that he didn't have anyone to compete with there, and that's why he left Mousesports for EG. Not only was that statement arrogant, but also false. In my opinion, MaNa is more talented than ThorZAiN. Also, EG sucked ass in Dreamhack. Take that, traitor.


Did he really say this?
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
June 19 2012 08:18 GMT
#7297
On June 19 2012 16:51 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 15:24 Fanta_Rules wrote:
ThorZaIN said he was easily the best Mouz player, that he didn't have anyone to compete with there, and that's why he left Mousesports for EG. Not only was that statement arrogant, but also false. In my opinion, MaNa is more talented than ThorZAiN. Also, EG sucked ass in Dreamhack. Take that, traitor.


Did he really say this?


That's about the gist of it.
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
June 19 2012 08:23 GMT
#7298
On June 19 2012 17:18 Full.tilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 16:51 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
On June 19 2012 15:24 Fanta_Rules wrote:
ThorZaIN said he was easily the best Mouz player, that he didn't have anyone to compete with there, and that's why he left Mousesports for EG. Not only was that statement arrogant, but also false. In my opinion, MaNa is more talented than ThorZAiN. Also, EG sucked ass in Dreamhack. Take that, traitor.


Did he really say this?


That's about the gist of it.


Was it in an interview? Any link?
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 08:28:32
June 19 2012 08:26 GMT
#7299
On June 19 2012 17:23 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 17:18 Full.tilt wrote:
On June 19 2012 16:51 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
On June 19 2012 15:24 Fanta_Rules wrote:
ThorZaIN said he was easily the best Mouz player, that he didn't have anyone to compete with there, and that's why he left Mousesports for EG. Not only was that statement arrogant, but also false. In my opinion, MaNa is more talented than ThorZAiN. Also, EG sucked ass in Dreamhack. Take that, traitor.


Did he really say this?


That's about the gist of it.


Was it in an interview? Any link?


He doesn't say it quite as bad as it may sound to some people, was from Slashers interview after he joined EG.

I decided to join EG to give myself new challenges. I've always had some kind of competition in myself to become the best in the team. Even though Mousesports has many great players with Stefan "MorroW" Andersson, Grzegorz "MaNa" Komincz, and others, I think I was the best player on the team, the most consistent. It wasn't that challenging for me.
DownAnotherDay
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada69 Posts
June 19 2012 08:27 GMT
#7300
@sk__mc
wow.. this time Dreamhack ro8 only 1 korean foreigner players imba! i will Unconditional go next Dreamhack congratz @mouzmana protoss!!!!


Shit just got real.
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