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Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 21:34:13
June 16 2012 21:33 GMT
#1441
On June 17 2012 06:30 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ?


Symbol - no.
Nestea - I can´t really judge that.
Byul, life - yes.

You actually think he is worse than symbol but doubt Nestea who has been in code S forever and actually won it ? Symbol has yet to prove himself in GSL but a lot of people think he is the best zerg.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 16 2012 21:34 GMT
#1442
On June 17 2012 06:28 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:26 Scrubwave wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:24 FinestHour wrote:
Hey guess what, seeker missle did

NOTHING

What's terran's equivalent of storms and fungals? Nukes? HSMs?


Tank fire/EMP against protoss. Zerg doesn't have any anti-energy spell by the way.


Tank fire is a bit over-rated given that Blizzard keeps insisting on making more and more units counter it or be resilient to it. EMP only works against shields and energy, so yes in essence terran's only multi-purpose direct damage aoe spell comes in the worst package on the worst unit with the worst cost in the game.
Nuke doesn't count, its a long term strategical weapon, not a instant tactical weapon.

Glad that Puma was kind enough to demonstrate in a live game why mech sucks vs zerg and also why Ravens suck. That hypothetical situation where you manage to get on 5 bases and live long enough to get that "ultimate force" will only happen once in a blue moon because a good zerg won't let you.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4416 Posts
June 16 2012 21:34 GMT
#1443
On June 17 2012 06:32 oZii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:25 jalstar wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:21 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


Stephano hasn't won a premier tournament in 8 months. Just throwing that stat out there for people who seem to forget it all too often.


Well only 3 Zergs have won a premier tournament more recently than Stephano. So yeah that's more than 1 or 2 but you're being a bit nitpicky.


It's just very off base when people talk about Stephano as this god of the game when it's actually a really long time since he won anything major when you wouldn't get anything like the same endless stream of hyperbole for Leenock, Violet, Symbol or any of the various players of other races with better/equal results in 2012 than Stephano.

I mean Nestea has similar results to Stephano in the time between them all last winning a tournament and yet Nestea is in this massive slump according to most.



http://sc2earnings.com/?year=2012

1 MvPPark "DongRaeGu" Soo Ho $101,800

2 SK GamingJang "MC" Min Chul $71,150

3 PrimeLee "MarineKing" Jung Hoon $57,030

4 FnaticHan "aLive" Lee Seok $53,390

5 Incredible MiracleJeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $47,330

6 MilleniumIlyes "Stephano" Satouri $42,615

I only see 1 other zerg on that list hmmmm....


lol at judging skill based on prize money.
calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
June 16 2012 21:34 GMT
#1444
On June 17 2012 06:32 NoGasfOu wrote:
Symbol, Life, Nestea, DRG and 30 more Code B zergs would own Stephano anytime.


IMTroll would suit you better.
in it for the game not for the .... - PMS Army. [WUFC-SDK. VIM. PMS]
Province
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom314 Posts
June 16 2012 21:34 GMT
#1445
Star Wars cantina music? Haha
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
June 16 2012 21:34 GMT
#1446
Stream 2 music wtf, I remember this from 8-bit SNES Star Wars game O_O
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
June 16 2012 21:34 GMT
#1447
On June 17 2012 06:30 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ?

better at zvp and zvt than all of them except maybe symbol


For those who didn't see it.

ZvZ is Stephano's Achilles' heel. There he plays far below his level.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 16 2012 21:34 GMT
#1448
Not convinced at all by Stephano's play today. Sloppy micro in the last engagement of game 2, larva starved in game 1 (even tho he made ultras and infestors so it didn't matter too much). And most importantly, terrible drop defense. 12 lings at his hive were enough to defend that drop, but each time he amoved a big part of his army, Puma just lifted, Stephano left, then Puma dropped again with a freaking stationary medivac. Stephano will have to do a lot better to go deep in this tourney.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 16 2012 21:34 GMT
#1449
On June 17 2012 06:30 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ?

better at zvp and zvt than all of them except maybe symbol

I'd agree with this. But Stephano's ZvZ seems to suuuck right now.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 16 2012 21:34 GMT
#1450
On June 17 2012 06:33 najreteip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:32 Drazerk wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:30 najreteip wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:29 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:27 yeint wrote:
I don't get why he wasted gas on ravens.


Because they're suppose to be the best terran unit according to TL posters.

Careful, Drazerk is around here somewhere


I am tempted to give up with ravens... Most terrans just can't micro them at all T_T

Lol if even you give up on ravens there is no hope at all


Also I am slightly distracted by calling all zergs bad for never using overseers
Mosquitow
Profile Joined September 2011
England510 Posts
June 16 2012 21:34 GMT
#1451
On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ?

IIRC, stephano beat life in some tournament.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
June 16 2012 21:34 GMT
#1452
On June 17 2012 06:33 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:30 KalWarkov wrote:
Aeroplaneoverthesea I see your comment "Stephano hasnt won a premier tournament in 8 months" for the 4th fucking time now. plz stop to try to annoy ppl and open your eyes - there is 3 zergs who DID WIN a premiier tournament in this time. Stephano overall placed the best in average out of all zergs behind DRG.

Again, im not saying he is the best zerg in the world or stuff like that, but hes awesome, hes the best foreigner and a top 10 zerg in the world period.

Every korean progamer would agree with this statement, im pretty sure.

Best foreigner? Maybe when he proves he can do well in GSL, where people have a long time to prepare against his style.


That is funny Stephano is the most studied player in Korea since his IPL 3 win and the onyl thing that has happend are Stephano dominating more Koreans

You people are so hillarious

Matter infact Ill say alot of you a racist if Stephano was Korean you would proberly wont say anything bad about Stephano
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
June 16 2012 21:34 GMT
#1453
On June 17 2012 06:34 MrCon wrote:
Not convinced at all by Stephano's play today. Sloppy micro in the last engagement of game 2, larva starved in game 1 (even tho he made ultras and infestors so it didn't matter too much). And most importantly, terrible drop defense. 12 lings at his hive were enough to defend that drop, but each time he amoved a big part of his army, Puma just lifted, Stephano left, then Puma dropped again with a freaking stationary medivac. Stephano will have to do a lot better to go deep in this tourney.


Its kinda late tho, in all fairness!
in it for the game not for the .... - PMS Army. [WUFC-SDK. VIM. PMS]
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
June 16 2012 21:34 GMT
#1454
On June 17 2012 06:33 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:30 KalWarkov wrote:
Aeroplaneoverthesea I see your comment "Stephano hasnt won a premier tournament in 8 months" for the 4th fucking time now. plz stop to try to annoy ppl and open your eyes - there is 3 zergs who DID WIN a premiier tournament in this time. Stephano overall placed the best in average out of all zergs behind DRG.

Again, im not saying he is the best zerg in the world or stuff like that, but hes awesome, hes the best foreigner and a top 10 zerg in the world period.

Every korean progamer would agree with this statement, im pretty sure.

Best foreigner? Maybe when he proves he can do well in GSL, where people have a long time to prepare against his style.


he's already proven himself against gsl code S level players so I don't see anything magical about the GSL, so what if they can prepare, he can prepare for them so it balances out
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
June 16 2012 21:34 GMT
#1455
On June 17 2012 06:30 KalWarkov wrote:
Aeroplaneoverthesea I see your comment "Stephano hasnt won a premier tournament in 8 months" for the 4th fucking time now. plz stop to try to annoy ppl and open your eyes - there is 3 zergs who DID WIN a premiier tournament in this time. Stephano overall placed the best in average out of all zergs behind DRG.

Again, im not saying he is the best zerg in the world or stuff like that, but hes awesome, hes the best foreigner and a top 10 zerg in the world period.

Every korean progamer would agree with this statement, im pretty sure.


I don't disagree with that statement either, he's a top 5 Zerg imo.

But I disagree with them constantly acting like he's a top 1 Zerg and a top 1 player when his results do not back that up one bit.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 16 2012 21:35 GMT
#1456
On June 17 2012 06:32 oZii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:25 jalstar wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:21 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


Stephano hasn't won a premier tournament in 8 months. Just throwing that stat out there for people who seem to forget it all too often.


Well only 3 Zergs have won a premier tournament more recently than Stephano. So yeah that's more than 1 or 2 but you're being a bit nitpicky.


It's just very off base when people talk about Stephano as this god of the game when it's actually a really long time since he won anything major when you wouldn't get anything like the same endless stream of hyperbole for Leenock, Violet, Symbol or any of the various players of other races with better/equal results in 2012 than Stephano.

I mean Nestea has similar results to Stephano in the time between them all last winning a tournament and yet Nestea is in this massive slump according to most.



http://sc2earnings.com/?year=2012

1 MvPPark "DongRaeGu" Soo Ho $101,800

2 SK GamingJang "MC" Min Chul $71,150

3 PrimeLee "MarineKing" Jung Hoon $57,030

4 FnaticHan "aLive" Lee Seok $53,390

5 Incredible MiracleJeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $47,330

6 MilleniumIlyes "Stephano" Satouri $42,615

I only see 1 other zerg on that list hmmmm....

and Stephano plays in way more tournaments than Korean Zergs.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1358 Posts
June 16 2012 21:35 GMT
#1457
On June 17 2012 06:32 NoGasfOu wrote:
Symbol, Life, Nestea, DRG and 30 more Code B zergs would own Stephano anytime.


in zvz it could be possible
Discerpo
Profile Joined July 2010
263 Posts
June 16 2012 21:35 GMT
#1458
On June 17 2012 06:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:25 jalstar wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:21 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


Stephano hasn't won a premier tournament in 8 months. Just throwing that stat out there for people who seem to forget it all too often.


Well only 3 Zergs have won a premier tournament more recently than Stephano. So yeah that's more than 1 or 2 but you're being a bit nitpicky.


It's just very off base when people talk about Stephano as this god of the game when it's actually a really long time since he won anything major when you wouldn't get anything like the same endless stream of hyperbole for Leenock, Violet, Symbol or any of the various players of other races with better/equal results in 2012 than Stephano.

I mean Nestea has similar results to Stephano in the time between them all last winning a tournament and yet Nestea is in this massive slump according to most.


A long time since he won anything major? So March is a long time apparently... people forget tournaments so quickly these days.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 21:36:01
June 16 2012 21:35 GMT
#1459
On June 17 2012 06:34 Mosquitow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ?

IIRC, stephano beat life in some tournament.


Life comfortably handled him in a ZvZ at ironsquid.

That's the only time they played afaik
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
June 16 2012 21:36 GMT
#1460
That mini PC is SO gonna fall off things with the port placements.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
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