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On June 17 2012 06:30 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole. If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time. So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ? Symbol - no. Nestea - I can´t really judge that. Byul, life - yes. You actually think he is worse than symbol but doubt Nestea who has been in code S forever and actually won it ? Symbol has yet to prove himself in GSL but a lot of people think he is the best zerg.
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On June 17 2012 06:28 yeint wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:26 Scrubwave wrote:On June 17 2012 06:24 FinestHour wrote: Hey guess what, seeker missle did
NOTHING What's terran's equivalent of storms and fungals? Nukes? HSMs? Tank fire/EMP against protoss. Zerg doesn't have any anti-energy spell by the way.
Tank fire is a bit over-rated given that Blizzard keeps insisting on making more and more units counter it or be resilient to it. EMP only works against shields and energy, so yes in essence terran's only multi-purpose direct damage aoe spell comes in the worst package on the worst unit with the worst cost in the game. Nuke doesn't count, its a long term strategical weapon, not a instant tactical weapon.
Glad that Puma was kind enough to demonstrate in a live game why mech sucks vs zerg and also why Ravens suck. That hypothetical situation where you manage to get on 5 bases and live long enough to get that "ultimate force" will only happen once in a blue moon because a good zerg won't let you.
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On June 17 2012 06:32 oZii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 06:25 jalstar wrote:On June 17 2012 06:21 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole. If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time. Stephano hasn't won a premier tournament in 8 months. Just throwing that stat out there for people who seem to forget it all too often. Well only 3 Zergs have won a premier tournament more recently than Stephano. So yeah that's more than 1 or 2 but you're being a bit nitpicky. It's just very off base when people talk about Stephano as this god of the game when it's actually a really long time since he won anything major when you wouldn't get anything like the same endless stream of hyperbole for Leenock, Violet, Symbol or any of the various players of other races with better/equal results in 2012 than Stephano. I mean Nestea has similar results to Stephano in the time between them all last winning a tournament and yet Nestea is in this massive slump according to most. http://sc2earnings.com/?year=20121 MvPPark "DongRaeGu" Soo Ho $101,800 2 SK GamingJang "MC" Min Chul $71,150 3 PrimeLee "MarineKing" Jung Hoon $57,030 4 FnaticHan "aLive" Lee Seok $53,390 5 Incredible MiracleJeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $47,330 6 MilleniumIlyes "Stephano" Satouri $42,615I only see 1 other zerg on that list hmmmm....
lol at judging skill based on prize money.
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On June 17 2012 06:32 NoGasfOu wrote: Symbol, Life, Nestea, DRG and 30 more Code B zergs would own Stephano anytime.
IMTroll would suit you better.
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Star Wars cantina music? Haha
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Stream 2 music wtf, I remember this from 8-bit SNES Star Wars game O_O
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On June 17 2012 06:30 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole. If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time. So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ? better at zvp and zvt than all of them except maybe symbol
For those who didn't see it.
ZvZ is Stephano's Achilles' heel. There he plays far below his level.
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Not convinced at all by Stephano's play today. Sloppy micro in the last engagement of game 2, larva starved in game 1 (even tho he made ultras and infestors so it didn't matter too much). And most importantly, terrible drop defense. 12 lings at his hive were enough to defend that drop, but each time he amoved a big part of his army, Puma just lifted, Stephano left, then Puma dropped again with a freaking stationary medivac. Stephano will have to do a lot better to go deep in this tourney.
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On June 17 2012 06:30 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole. If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time. So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ? better at zvp and zvt than all of them except maybe symbol I'd agree with this. But Stephano's ZvZ seems to suuuck right now.
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On June 17 2012 06:33 najreteip wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:32 Drazerk wrote:On June 17 2012 06:30 najreteip wrote:On June 17 2012 06:29 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:On June 17 2012 06:27 yeint wrote: I don't get why he wasted gas on ravens. Because they're suppose to be the best terran unit according to TL posters. Careful, Drazerk is around here somewhere I am tempted to give up with ravens... Most terrans just can't micro them at all T_T Lol if even you give up on ravens there is no hope at all
Also I am slightly distracted by calling all zergs bad for never using overseers
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On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole. If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time. So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ? IIRC, stephano beat life in some tournament.
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On June 17 2012 06:33 Sated wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:30 KalWarkov wrote: Aeroplaneoverthesea I see your comment "Stephano hasnt won a premier tournament in 8 months" for the 4th fucking time now. plz stop to try to annoy ppl and open your eyes - there is 3 zergs who DID WIN a premiier tournament in this time. Stephano overall placed the best in average out of all zergs behind DRG.
Again, im not saying he is the best zerg in the world or stuff like that, but hes awesome, hes the best foreigner and a top 10 zerg in the world period.
Every korean progamer would agree with this statement, im pretty sure. Best foreigner? Maybe when he proves he can do well in GSL, where people have a long time to prepare against his style.
That is funny Stephano is the most studied player in Korea since his IPL 3 win and the onyl thing that has happend are Stephano dominating more Koreans
You people are so hillarious
Matter infact Ill say alot of you a racist if Stephano was Korean you would proberly wont say anything bad about Stephano
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On June 17 2012 06:34 MrCon wrote: Not convinced at all by Stephano's play today. Sloppy micro in the last engagement of game 2, larva starved in game 1 (even tho he made ultras and infestors so it didn't matter too much). And most importantly, terrible drop defense. 12 lings at his hive were enough to defend that drop, but each time he amoved a big part of his army, Puma just lifted, Stephano left, then Puma dropped again with a freaking stationary medivac. Stephano will have to do a lot better to go deep in this tourney.
Its kinda late tho, in all fairness!
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On June 17 2012 06:33 Sated wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:30 KalWarkov wrote: Aeroplaneoverthesea I see your comment "Stephano hasnt won a premier tournament in 8 months" for the 4th fucking time now. plz stop to try to annoy ppl and open your eyes - there is 3 zergs who DID WIN a premiier tournament in this time. Stephano overall placed the best in average out of all zergs behind DRG.
Again, im not saying he is the best zerg in the world or stuff like that, but hes awesome, hes the best foreigner and a top 10 zerg in the world period.
Every korean progamer would agree with this statement, im pretty sure. Best foreigner? Maybe when he proves he can do well in GSL, where people have a long time to prepare against his style.
he's already proven himself against gsl code S level players so I don't see anything magical about the GSL, so what if they can prepare, he can prepare for them so it balances out
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On June 17 2012 06:30 KalWarkov wrote: Aeroplaneoverthesea I see your comment "Stephano hasnt won a premier tournament in 8 months" for the 4th fucking time now. plz stop to try to annoy ppl and open your eyes - there is 3 zergs who DID WIN a premiier tournament in this time. Stephano overall placed the best in average out of all zergs behind DRG.
Again, im not saying he is the best zerg in the world or stuff like that, but hes awesome, hes the best foreigner and a top 10 zerg in the world period.
Every korean progamer would agree with this statement, im pretty sure.
I don't disagree with that statement either, he's a top 5 Zerg imo.
But I disagree with them constantly acting like he's a top 1 Zerg and a top 1 player when his results do not back that up one bit.
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On June 17 2012 06:32 oZii wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 06:25 jalstar wrote:On June 17 2012 06:21 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole. If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time. Stephano hasn't won a premier tournament in 8 months. Just throwing that stat out there for people who seem to forget it all too often. Well only 3 Zergs have won a premier tournament more recently than Stephano. So yeah that's more than 1 or 2 but you're being a bit nitpicky. It's just very off base when people talk about Stephano as this god of the game when it's actually a really long time since he won anything major when you wouldn't get anything like the same endless stream of hyperbole for Leenock, Violet, Symbol or any of the various players of other races with better/equal results in 2012 than Stephano. I mean Nestea has similar results to Stephano in the time between them all last winning a tournament and yet Nestea is in this massive slump according to most. http://sc2earnings.com/?year=20121 MvPPark "DongRaeGu" Soo Ho $101,800 2 SK GamingJang "MC" Min Chul $71,150 3 PrimeLee "MarineKing" Jung Hoon $57,030 4 FnaticHan "aLive" Lee Seok $53,390 5 Incredible MiracleJeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $47,330 6 MilleniumIlyes "Stephano" Satouri $42,615I only see 1 other zerg on that list hmmmm.... and Stephano plays in way more tournaments than Korean Zergs.
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On June 17 2012 06:32 NoGasfOu wrote: Symbol, Life, Nestea, DRG and 30 more Code B zergs would own Stephano anytime.
in zvz it could be possible
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On June 17 2012 06:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:25 jalstar wrote:On June 17 2012 06:21 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole. If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time. Stephano hasn't won a premier tournament in 8 months. Just throwing that stat out there for people who seem to forget it all too often. Well only 3 Zergs have won a premier tournament more recently than Stephano. So yeah that's more than 1 or 2 but you're being a bit nitpicky. It's just very off base when people talk about Stephano as this god of the game when it's actually a really long time since he won anything major when you wouldn't get anything like the same endless stream of hyperbole for Leenock, Violet, Symbol or any of the various players of other races with better/equal results in 2012 than Stephano. I mean Nestea has similar results to Stephano in the time between them all last winning a tournament and yet Nestea is in this massive slump according to most.
A long time since he won anything major? So March is a long time apparently... people forget tournaments so quickly these days.
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On June 17 2012 06:34 Mosquitow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole. If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time. So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ? IIRC, stephano beat life in some tournament.
Life comfortably handled him in a ZvZ at ironsquid.
That's the only time they played afaik
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That mini PC is SO gonna fall off things with the port placements.
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