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skiersteve
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom268 Posts
June 16 2012 21:29 GMT
#1401
tvz has gone really downhill to spectate after this queen buff, alot of the non stop aggression has gone and its just terran is forced to macro then try win, kinda boring hope blizz either buff terran midgame vs zerg or just remove the queen buff
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
June 16 2012 21:29 GMT
#1402
Puma is so good at terran macro and drops, but just does so much worse in actual big battles then players like Polt or MKP or MVP...
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
June 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#1403
On June 17 2012 06:29 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:27 yeint wrote:
I don't get why he wasted gas on ravens.


Because they're suppose to be the best terran unit according to TL posters.

Careful, Drazerk is around here somewhere
I have no quote!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#1404
On June 17 2012 06:27 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:21 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


Stephano hasn't won a premier tournament in 8 months. Just throwing that stat out there for people who seem to forget it all too often.


Oh my, let's see what other zergs bar DRG won in the last 8 months...nothing, Stephano had the best placemets out of every zerg but DRG...so your argument is invalid :D


I'd say Symbol's all kill of IM is more impressive than anything Stephano has done recently.
But I might be biased since I've always thought people were going crazy over Stephano far too much. Foreigner bonus I guess.
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Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
June 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#1405
On June 17 2012 06:29 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:27 yeint wrote:
I don't get why he wasted gas on ravens.


Because they're suppose to be the best terran unit according to TL posters.

Yeah, terrans just need to learn to use them better and Thor/Raven will become the new infestor/BL.
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
June 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#1406
On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ?


No, Stephano is worse than Haypro, am i doing it right?
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
June 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#1407
On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ?


Symbol - no.
Nestea - I can´t really judge that.
Byul, life - yes.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
June 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#1408
On June 17 2012 06:27 yeint wrote:
I don't get why he wasted gas on ravens.


Maybe would have been better off getting BCs and the yamato cannon vs the broods? I don't even know brood infestor is really strong comp. Im just glad I have the archon toilet as long as it hits I can even out the score.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
June 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#1409
On June 17 2012 06:29 Scrubwave wrote:
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On June 17 2012 06:28 yeint wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:26 Scrubwave wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:24 FinestHour wrote:
Hey guess what, seeker missle did

NOTHING

What's terran's equivalent of storms and fungals? Nukes? HSMs?


Tank fire/EMP against protoss. Zerg doesn't have any anti-energy spell by the way.

Tanks in tvp? EMP kills??


Asymmetrical game is asymmetrical.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
June 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#1410
On June 17 2012 06:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:25 jalstar wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:21 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


Stephano hasn't won a premier tournament in 8 months. Just throwing that stat out there for people who seem to forget it all too often.


Well only 3 Zergs have won a premier tournament more recently than Stephano. So yeah that's more than 1 or 2 but you're being a bit nitpicky.


It's just very off base when people talk about Stephano as this god of the game when it's actually a really long time since he won anything major when you wouldn't get anything like the same endless stream of hyperbole for Leenock, Violet, Symbol or any of the various players of other races with better/equal results in 2012 than Stephano.


Yeah we get it, you don't like stephano, or the casters raving about him. Noted.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 21:31:28
June 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#1411
On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ?


Does every tournament LR thread Stephano plays in have to devolve in a debate which exact player he is better or worse than?

Fuck this shit, he's just one of 128 players. Enjoy the games.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
June 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#1412
On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ?

better at zvp and zvt than all of them except maybe symbol
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
June 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#1413
Stephano is god, now stop with the arguing.
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
June 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#1414
On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ?


Well Nestea is pretty good. I would place him above the other guys though, don't see why that is so weird to you.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
June 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#1415
Aeroplaneoverthesea I see your comment "Stephano hasnt won a premier tournament in 8 months" for the 4th fucking time now. plz stop to try to annoy ppl and open your eyes - there is 3 zergs who DID WIN a premiier tournament in this time. Stephano overall placed the best in average out of all zergs behind DRG.

Again, im not saying he is the best zerg in the world or stuff like that, but hes awesome, hes the best foreigner and a top 10 zerg in the world period.

Every korean progamer would agree with this statement, im pretty sure.
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Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
June 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#1416
On June 17 2012 06:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:25 jalstar wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:21 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


Stephano hasn't won a premier tournament in 8 months. Just throwing that stat out there for people who seem to forget it all too often.


Well only 3 Zergs have won a premier tournament more recently than Stephano. So yeah that's more than 1 or 2 but you're being a bit nitpicky.


It's just very off base when people talk about Stephano as this god of the game when it's actually a really long time since he won anything major when you wouldn't get anything like the same endless stream of hyperbole for Leenock, Violet, Symbol or any of the various players of other races with better/equal results in 2012 than Stephano.


There's a shitload of hype for Symbol and Violet. Leenock hasn't really performed in 2012 considering his #2 Providence and GSL November results. There's a lot of good Zerg's at the moment and Stephano will always get hype as long as he's the best foreigner.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 21:32:03
June 16 2012 21:30 GMT
#1417
On June 17 2012 06:29 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Puma is so good at terran macro and drops, but just does so much worse in actual big battles then players like Polt or MKP or MVP...


There's a reason his Korean winrate in vZ is sub 50% while his others are both over 65% (this all being somewhat inflated by playing mostly in weeklies)


On June 17 2012 06:30 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ?


Does every tournament LR thread Stephano plays in have to devolve in a debate which exact player he is better or worse than?


Whenever a player has obnoxious fans they have obnoxious haters too heh.
Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
June 16 2012 21:31 GMT
#1418
On June 17 2012 06:26 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:20 mememolly wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


no, he needs to prove himself in GSL . . .


No he doesn´t. It is the strongest tournament in the world, but many of the GSL players come to foreign events as well, where Stephano consistently brings results. GSL is a lot about preparation, so I actually think foreign tournaments are maybe a better indicator of pure skill. Before I get flamed for that, I still think, that DRG and Symbol are better players atm. and that DRG and Nestea are more succesful players overall (than Stephano). But in the end, GSL is just a tournament, although it is the strongest in the world.


GSL is also the tournament where almost every meta-changing strat gets unveiled. It depends on what you want to define "skill" as, but GSL is definitely the proving ground for every top player.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
June 16 2012 21:31 GMT
#1419
On June 17 2012 06:27 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:21 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:
On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole.


If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time.


Stephano hasn't won a premier tournament in 8 months. Just throwing that stat out there for people who seem to forget it all too often.


Oh my, let's see what other zergs bar DRG won in the last 8 months(except Violet?)...nothing, Stephano had the best placemets out of every zerg but DRG...so your argument is invalid :D


Leenock won Providence and made a Code S final.

Symbol made Iron Squid and MLG Spring Arena Final.

Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
June 16 2012 21:31 GMT
#1420
On June 17 2012 06:27 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:26 Math.random(); wrote:
Did stephano win the antiga game, how?


yes, but no one actually knows


Ultra + fungal on most of Puma's MMM army. Stephano was behind in supply but this good fight anyway, don't ask me why.
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
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