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Darclite
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1021 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 02:41:09
June 15 2012 02:38 GMT
#81
That was more bad luck in the game itself than anything else for Demuslim. Even at his best, don't know how he would have won with the builds each player used. Not that it doesn't suck.
They're fools. You should eat them.
Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 02:40:21
June 15 2012 02:39 GMT
#82
On June 15 2012 11:34 Shaddar wrote:
I don't get why he'd complain about it then, it's not like that's the reason he lost the game. I guess he wanted to get his complaint out there to the viewers?


It's still a bit annoying to come in underprepared because you had to play last minute games instead of planning builds and the like for a tournament like this. He's been unhappy about this since before the games were played.

Though luckily, worst case scenario, he ties with Ret and Strelok for 8th place into finals, and that's assuming they win 2-0. (MC will get 7th barring an 0-2 to put him below those aforementioned, or will tie jointly for 7/8th along with Ret and Strelok on points if he goes 1-2)
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 15 2012 02:39 GMT
#83
If you follow DeMuslim on twitter, you should would have seen this coming. He was talking about this a few days ago. If he what he says is true, not good for NASL.
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Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
June 15 2012 02:40 GMT
#84
On June 15 2012 11:37 LgNKane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 11:34 Shaddar wrote:
I don't get why he'd complain about it then, it's not like that's the reason he lost the game. I guess he wanted to get his complaint out there to the viewers?


guess so... dunno why he'd do it in front of such a crowd. lost respect for demu right there.

can you convert the respect lost to feet or inches please, and then give a reference point, like the feet wide something everyone respects equally is. like thorzain, everyone respectss thorzain the same amount, alot. convert that to your measurement then convert that to the respect you have for demuslim before and after he talked about how xeris fucked him over.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 02:40:28
June 15 2012 02:40 GMT
#85
On June 15 2012 11:37 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 11:35 Whatson wrote:
Xeris is a manager for Fnatic I believe..
He posts a lot on these forums


Was. Now he's the manager for LighT and also NASL

Ahh sorry, I just remember him once having a Fnatic players signature, haven't seen or paid much attention to him the past year lol
thanks for clearing it up
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
June 15 2012 02:41 GMT
#86
On June 15 2012 11:39 Falconblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 11:34 Shaddar wrote:
I don't get why he'd complain about it then, it's not like that's the reason he lost the game. I guess he wanted to get his complaint out there to the viewers?


It's still a bit annoying to come in underprepared because you had to play last minute games instead of planning builds and the like for a tournament like this. He's been unhappy about this since before the games were played.

Though luckily, worst case scenario, he ties with Ret and Strelok for 8th place into finals, and that's assuming they win 2-0. (MC will get 7th barring an 0-2 to put him below those aforementioned, or will tie jointly for 7/8th along with Ret and Strelok on points.)


Yeah I know I remember seeing him post on twitter about this. I just think there would have been a better way to complain about it publicly than at the end of the game, where it comes across as bad sportsmanship, I don't blame him for being pissed though if what he says is true and I've said plenty of stupid shit when pissed off about something.
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
June 15 2012 02:42 GMT
#87
On June 15 2012 11:37 LgNKane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 11:34 Shaddar wrote:
I don't get why he'd complain about it then, it's not like that's the reason he lost the game. I guess he wanted to get his complaint out there to the viewers?


guess so... dunno why he'd do it in front of such a crowd. lost respect for demu right there.


Yup, still not entirely sure what it’s all about but regardless of that it just came across as petty and unprofessional.
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
June 15 2012 02:42 GMT
#88
On June 15 2012 11:37 LgNKane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 11:34 Shaddar wrote:
I don't get why he'd complain about it then, it's not like that's the reason he lost the game. I guess he wanted to get his complaint out there to the viewers?


guess so... dunno why he'd do it in front of such a crowd. lost respect for demu right there.

also read this tweet, you shouldnt have lost respect

___

Benjamin Baker ‏@DeMusliM

@QuanticIllusion 3 emails in which no reply, finally i said on twitter hey you're not replying i don't want a walkover and instant reply T_T

__


Chris Lee ‏@QuanticIllusion

@DeMusliM sad the only way we can complain about it is through the public, or they dont listen

___

nasl wouldnt let demu play in good conditions, he had to phone into a net cafe or something, xeris had promised demu he wouldnt have to play till after gigabye. its not hard to understand
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 02:44:52
June 15 2012 02:42 GMT
#89
On June 15 2012 11:39 Falconblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 11:34 Shaddar wrote:
I don't get why he'd complain about it then, it's not like that's the reason he lost the game. I guess he wanted to get his complaint out there to the viewers?


It's still a bit annoying to come in underprepared because you had to play last minute games instead of planning builds and the like for a tournament like this. He's been unhappy about this since before the games were played.

Though luckily, worst case scenario, he ties with Ret and Strelok for 8th place into finals, and that's assuming they win 2-0. (MC will get 7th barring an 0-2 to put him below those aforementioned, or will tie jointly for 7/8th along with Ret and Strelok on points if he goes 1-2)


If Ret wins 2-0, he advances as top in his group because he holds tiebreaker over Alicia. So technically, Demuslim would tie with Alicia and Strelok, worst case scenario

Edit: nvm, I'm dumb
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
June 15 2012 02:43 GMT
#90
On June 15 2012 11:42 Greendotz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 11:37 LgNKane wrote:
On June 15 2012 11:34 Shaddar wrote:
I don't get why he'd complain about it then, it's not like that's the reason he lost the game. I guess he wanted to get his complaint out there to the viewers?


guess so... dunno why he'd do it in front of such a crowd. lost respect for demu right there.


Yup, still not entirely sure what it’s all about but regardless of that it just came across as petty and unprofessional.



read my previos post, and if you think its petty consider that it could screw him over in terms of making it to the grand finals. pretty big hit to a career.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
June 15 2012 02:44 GMT
#91
On June 15 2012 11:42 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 11:37 LgNKane wrote:
On June 15 2012 11:34 Shaddar wrote:
I don't get why he'd complain about it then, it's not like that's the reason he lost the game. I guess he wanted to get his complaint out there to the viewers?


guess so... dunno why he'd do it in front of such a crowd. lost respect for demu right there.

also read this tweet, you shouldnt have lost respect

___

Benjamin Baker ‏@DeMusliM

@QuanticIllusion 3 emails in which no reply, finally i said on twitter hey you're not replying i don't want a walkover and instant reply T_T

__


Chris Lee ‏@QuanticIllusion

@DeMusliM sad the only way we can complain about it is through the public, or they dont listen

___

nasl wouldnt let demu play in good conditions, he had to phone into a net cafe or something, xeris had promised demu he wouldnt have to play till after gigabye. its not hard to understand


There's always two sides to a story.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 02:45:29
June 15 2012 02:45 GMT
#92
On June 15 2012 11:44 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 11:42 Rulker wrote:
On June 15 2012 11:37 LgNKane wrote:
On June 15 2012 11:34 Shaddar wrote:
I don't get why he'd complain about it then, it's not like that's the reason he lost the game. I guess he wanted to get his complaint out there to the viewers?


guess so... dunno why he'd do it in front of such a crowd. lost respect for demu right there.

also read this tweet, you shouldnt have lost respect

___

Benjamin Baker ‏@DeMusliM

@QuanticIllusion 3 emails in which no reply, finally i said on twitter hey you're not replying i don't want a walkover and instant reply T_T

__


Chris Lee ‏@QuanticIllusion

@DeMusliM sad the only way we can complain about it is through the public, or they dont listen

___

nasl wouldnt let demu play in good conditions, he had to phone into a net cafe or something, xeris had promised demu he wouldnt have to play till after gigabye. its not hard to understand


There's always two sides to a story.

then xeris should prepare a statement if he wants his story heard : P



i still dont think its unprofessional to file a complaint if the admins wont listen to you
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 02:47:11
June 15 2012 02:46 GMT
#93
On June 15 2012 11:45 Rulker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 11:44 Dexington wrote:
On June 15 2012 11:42 Rulker wrote:
On June 15 2012 11:37 LgNKane wrote:
On June 15 2012 11:34 Shaddar wrote:
I don't get why he'd complain about it then, it's not like that's the reason he lost the game. I guess he wanted to get his complaint out there to the viewers?


guess so... dunno why he'd do it in front of such a crowd. lost respect for demu right there.

also read this tweet, you shouldnt have lost respect

___

Benjamin Baker ‏@DeMusliM

@QuanticIllusion 3 emails in which no reply, finally i said on twitter hey you're not replying i don't want a walkover and instant reply T_T

__


Chris Lee ‏@QuanticIllusion

@DeMusliM sad the only way we can complain about it is through the public, or they dont listen

___

nasl wouldnt let demu play in good conditions, he had to phone into a net cafe or something, xeris had promised demu he wouldnt have to play till after gigabye. its not hard to understand


There's always two sides to a story.

then xeris should prepare a statement if he wants his story heard : P

i still dont think its unprofessional to file a complaint if the admins wont listen to you


Yeah he should, he could have even replied on twitter, obviously he was checking it. Not responding or making a statement won't look good
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 02:48:19
June 15 2012 02:47 GMT
#94
On June 15 2012 11:46 Shaddar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 11:45 Rulker wrote:
On June 15 2012 11:44 Dexington wrote:
On June 15 2012 11:42 Rulker wrote:
On June 15 2012 11:37 LgNKane wrote:
On June 15 2012 11:34 Shaddar wrote:
I don't get why he'd complain about it then, it's not like that's the reason he lost the game. I guess he wanted to get his complaint out there to the viewers?


guess so... dunno why he'd do it in front of such a crowd. lost respect for demu right there.

also read this tweet, you shouldnt have lost respect

___

Benjamin Baker ‏@DeMusliM

@QuanticIllusion 3 emails in which no reply, finally i said on twitter hey you're not replying i don't want a walkover and instant reply T_T

__


Chris Lee ‏@QuanticIllusion

@DeMusliM sad the only way we can complain about it is through the public, or they dont listen

___

nasl wouldnt let demu play in good conditions, he had to phone into a net cafe or something, xeris had promised demu he wouldnt have to play till after gigabye. its not hard to understand


There's always two sides to a story.

then xeris should prepare a statement if he wants his story heard : P

i still dont think its unprofessional to file a complaint if the admins wont listen to you


Yeah he should, he could have even replied on twitter, obviously he was checking it. Not responding or making a statement won't look good


exactly

nice edit btw haha
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 15 2012 02:50 GMT
#95
Well, what a night. First Nony, now Demuslim. :|
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 02:55:16
June 15 2012 02:51 GMT
#96
Let me clarify:

1) The NASL schedule was given to all team managers and players at the start of the season. We were very clear that: a) there were no NASL games during the MLG Anaheim week, and b) Week 9 would be played AFTER MLG

2) DeMusliM asked if he could postpone. I talked to him in person, at MLG with the CEO of NASL with me, and we explained to him that we could NOT postpone until after Gigabyte, because our playoffs are next week and there is simply no time. DIMAGA will attend Dreamhack, and DeMusliM will play at Gigabyte, there were no other days.

3) We offered him a place to play and practice at the NASL studio for as long as he needed to play the game... and a lot of players were playing and practicing at the Odyssey LAN center (which is where DeMusliM played from... which is also where HuK and other players were playing)

I understand that DeMusliM is upset for playing in a non-ideal situation, but I believe the NASL was more than clear about the schedule and how the final week would be played.

Also... we send weekly emails about the schedule every Saturday that explains the exact schedule for the following week.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 15 2012 02:56 GMT
#97
On June 15 2012 11:51 Xeris wrote:
Let me clarify:

1) The NASL schedule was given to all team managers and players at the start of the season. We were very clear that: a) there were no NASL games during the MLG Anaheim week, and b) Week 9 would be played AFTER MLG

2) DeMusliM asked if he could postpone. I talked to him in person, at MLG with the CEO of NASL with me, and we explained to him that we could NOT postpone until after Gigabyte, because our playoffs are next week and there is simply no time. DIMAGA will attend Dreamhack, and DeMusliM will play at Gigabyte, there were no other days.

3) We offered him a place to play and practice at the NASL studio for as long as he needed to play the game... and a lot of players were playing and practicing at the Odyssey LAN center (which is where DeMusliM played from... which is also where HuK and other players were playing)

I understand that DeMusliM is upset for playing in a non-ideal situation, but I believe the NASL was more than clear about the schedule and how the final week would be played.

Also... we send weekly emails about the schedule every Saturday that explains the exact schedule for the following week.

obviously not since he was under the impression that it would be postponed.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 02:57:32
June 15 2012 02:57 GMT
#98
On June 15 2012 11:56 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 11:51 Xeris wrote:
Let me clarify:

1) The NASL schedule was given to all team managers and players at the start of the season. We were very clear that: a) there were no NASL games during the MLG Anaheim week, and b) Week 9 would be played AFTER MLG

2) DeMusliM asked if he could postpone. I talked to him in person, at MLG with the CEO of NASL with me, and we explained to him that we could NOT postpone until after Gigabyte, because our playoffs are next week and there is simply no time. DIMAGA will attend Dreamhack, and DeMusliM will play at Gigabyte, there were no other days.

3) We offered him a place to play and practice at the NASL studio for as long as he needed to play the game... and a lot of players were playing and practicing at the Odyssey LAN center (which is where DeMusliM played from... which is also where HuK and other players were playing)

I understand that DeMusliM is upset for playing in a non-ideal situation, but I believe the NASL was more than clear about the schedule and how the final week would be played.

Also... we send weekly emails about the schedule every Saturday that explains the exact schedule for the following week.

obviously not since he was under the impression that it would be postponed.


I told him specifically that it would not be. I never once told him he could play after Gigabyte. I told him that Week 9 matches were postponed a week due to MLG, which has been the case ever since the season started in April
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
June 15 2012 02:59 GMT
#99
On June 15 2012 11:51 Xeris wrote:
Let me clarify:

1) The NASL schedule was given to all team managers and players at the start of the season. We were very clear that: a) there were no NASL games during the MLG Anaheim week, and b) Week 9 would be played AFTER MLG

2) DeMusliM asked if he could postpone. I talked to him in person, at MLG with the CEO of NASL with me, and we explained to him that we could NOT postpone until after Gigabyte, because our playoffs are next week and there is simply no time. DIMAGA will attend Dreamhack, and DeMusliM will play at Gigabyte, there were no other days.

3) We offered him a place to play and practice at the NASL studio for as long as he needed to play the game... and a lot of players were playing and practicing at the Odyssey LAN center (which is where DeMusliM played from... which is also where HuK and other players were playing)

I understand that DeMusliM is upset for playing in a non-ideal situation, but I believe the NASL was more than clear about the schedule and how the final week would be played.

Also... we send weekly emails about the schedule every Saturday that explains the exact schedule for the following week.


Would you mind me asking why he had to send several emails and use twitter trying to get your attention? It was obvious there was a misunderstanding here, wouldn't more open lines of communication solve problems like these?
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 03:02:18
June 15 2012 03:00 GMT
#100
On June 15 2012 11:59 TechNoTrance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 11:51 Xeris wrote:
Let me clarify:

1) The NASL schedule was given to all team managers and players at the start of the season. We were very clear that: a) there were no NASL games during the MLG Anaheim week, and b) Week 9 would be played AFTER MLG

2) DeMusliM asked if he could postpone. I talked to him in person, at MLG with the CEO of NASL with me, and we explained to him that we could NOT postpone until after Gigabyte, because our playoffs are next week and there is simply no time. DIMAGA will attend Dreamhack, and DeMusliM will play at Gigabyte, there were no other days.

3) We offered him a place to play and practice at the NASL studio for as long as he needed to play the game... and a lot of players were playing and practicing at the Odyssey LAN center (which is where DeMusliM played from... which is also where HuK and other players were playing)

I understand that DeMusliM is upset for playing in a non-ideal situation, but I believe the NASL was more than clear about the schedule and how the final week would be played.

Also... we send weekly emails about the schedule every Saturday that explains the exact schedule for the following week.


Would you mind me asking why he had to send several emails and use twitter trying to get your attention? It was obvious there was a misunderstanding here, wouldn't more open lines of communication solve problems like these?


Because I talked to him in person several days before the tweets.

Furthermore, I DID respond to his emails. He sent me an email, and I replied one day later and clarified. He said "I wont be able to play because of Gigabyte," and the next day (after I had talked to him in person at MLG), I said we can't postpone it, but I offered him a place to play at the NASL studio if he needed a place to play.
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