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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 13 2012 09:33 GMT
#361
On June 13 2012 18:31 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
I usually always root for terrans but this time I hope Thorzain bombs big time as Code S seeds should never be given.


This logic really has never made any sense to me. Its not like he did nothing and they pulled his name out of a hat. He forfilled the qualifier by doing good at foreign events. Basically major foreign events function in a way similer to code A just in a different style.
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
June 13 2012 09:33 GMT
#362
On June 13 2012 18:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 18:30 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 13 2012 18:29 FuzzyJAM wrote:
"Fantasy gg" comments in 5. . .4. . .3. . .

Already done, sorry

Damn it all!

For those asking about what Terran can do, something like cloaked Banshee just straight up kills what Squirtle did there, and any early pressure build does damage too. Basically, Protoss is hoping for a build order win with that move, and it is one against the most common Terran openers, but it also straight up dies to some. Seems weird for a superior player to go for that, but there you go.


Not weird when he knows Thorzain plays a passive style.
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Mowr
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden791 Posts
June 13 2012 09:33 GMT
#363
On June 13 2012 18:32 ThisIsRaichu wrote:
I don't understand why Thorzain is playing in his conditions. A bit insulting towards the GSL league

I do not think EG would have been happy if he forfeited his spot.
Kill one man and they'll call you a murderer. Kill an army of men and they'll call you a general. But kill all men and they'll call you a god.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
June 13 2012 09:33 GMT
#364
On June 13 2012 18:31 hewley wrote:
That what I don't like about this build. A fucking powerful 8 gate-timing. but with a 3rd nex behind for good economy too. Can somebody explain how this works?


However this is very Parting style.Sacrifice tech for army to do damage while having still having strong econ behind it.
If he did not break down those rocks,he could have stand a chance and he needed more bunkers to hold that insane 8 gate
push.

MVP has shown he can hold this at GSL finals by building 4 layer of bunkers.
Play your best
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 13 2012 09:33 GMT
#365
Game 2 on antiga

In the bottom right is Squirtle

In the top left is Thorzain

Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
June 13 2012 09:33 GMT
#366
It's http://www.johnfacts.com/
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5456 Posts
June 13 2012 09:34 GMT
#367
Haha...

"Bring back gayfortasteless.com"

The Korean commentators are clueless.
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
June 13 2012 09:34 GMT
#368
Rocks wasnt the reason, even before attack thorzain was WAY behind in supply.
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
June 13 2012 09:34 GMT
#369
Didn't Thorzain go to starport off 2 rax? You don't get a lot of units if you do that.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
June 13 2012 09:35 GMT
#370
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
June 13 2012 09:35 GMT
#371
On June 13 2012 18:33 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 18:32 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On June 13 2012 18:30 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 13 2012 18:29 FuzzyJAM wrote:
"Fantasy gg" comments in 5. . .4. . .3. . .

Already done, sorry

Damn it all!

For those asking about what Terran can do, something like cloaked Banshee just straight up kills what Squirtle did there, and any early pressure build does damage too. Basically, Protoss is hoping for a build order win with that move, and it is one against the most common Terran openers, but it also straight up dies to some. Seems weird for a superior player to go for that, but there you go.


Not weird when he knows Thorzain plays a passive style.

True.

He could certainly have just played the player there.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
June 13 2012 09:35 GMT
#372
On June 13 2012 18:33 Mowr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 18:32 ThisIsRaichu wrote:
I don't understand why Thorzain is playing in his conditions. A bit insulting towards the GSL league

I do not think EG would have been happy if he forfeited his spot.

If he wanted to play in GSL, he should've skipped MLG, but that's just my opinion. Truth is though, you wont do good if you attend 3 events in 3 different parts of the world over the course of a week.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 13 2012 09:35 GMT
#373
On June 13 2012 18:33 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 18:31 hewley wrote:
That what I don't like about this build. A fucking powerful 8 gate-timing. but with a 3rd nex behind for good economy too. Can somebody explain how this works?


However this is very Parting style.Sacrifice tech for army to do damage while having still having strong econ behind it.
If he did not break down those rocks,he could have stand a chance and he needed more bunkers to hold that insane 8 gate
push.

MVP has shown he can hold this at GSL finals by building 4 layer of bunkers.

squirtle didn't use this on mvp did he?
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
June 13 2012 09:35 GMT
#374
4gate inc lol
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
June 13 2012 09:35 GMT
#375
4 gate!!!!!!
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
June 13 2012 09:35 GMT
#376
On June 13 2012 18:33 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 18:31 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
I usually always root for terrans but this time I hope Thorzain bombs big time as Code S seeds should never be given.


This logic really has never made any sense to me. Its not like he did nothing and they pulled his name out of a hat. He forfilled the qualifier by doing good at foreign events. Basically major foreign events function in a way similer to code A just in a different style.


Puma disagrees.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 13 2012 09:35 GMT
#377
On June 13 2012 18:33 Drazerk wrote:
Game 2 on antiga

In the bottom right is Squirtle

In the top left is Thorzain



4:00

Expansion on the way for thorzain while taking his first gas. Bunker going up at the natural's ramp

Warp tech on the way for squirtle as he takes an additional three gateways
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
June 13 2012 09:35 GMT
#378
On June 13 2012 18:32 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 18:31 Destructicon wrote:
On June 13 2012 18:29 Dodgin wrote:
On June 13 2012 18:29 RPR_Tempest wrote:
As a Zerg player, can someone tell me how the Terran is supposed to beat that? Not QQ, I don't understand TvP so I don't know if ThorZaIN did anything wrong.

What should ThorZaIN have done there to hold it?


not let him take a third at 6 minutes without pressuring, that was so strong because it was the super powered parting build off 3 base econ.


And you're supposed to stop that how? For one, the maps are huge, so a lot of old timings won't work. On the other hand bio is actually terrible before upgrades and medivacs kick in. And upgrades + medivacs kick in at the 10 min mark at the earliest. Think ahead before you post in ignorance.


okay just let him take his third at 6 minutes off one gateway, but don't complain when you keep losing.



It's really not that simple. It's a gigantic map, you can't really stop the third and it's difficult to know exactly how strong the protoss in because it's hard to scout (only seeing one gate with a scan doesn't actually mean anything). And on the flip side, if both players went for 6 minutes 3rds, terran would lose because of warp gates
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 13 2012 09:35 GMT
#379
On June 13 2012 18:33 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 18:31 Peddel wrote:
On June 13 2012 18:29 Logros wrote:
Well in Thorzains defence I haven't seen this type of 3 base 8 gate timing stopped yet.


I did, some foreign protoss lost vs. Kas while doing this build...

But indeed, I haven't seen anyone hold it when done by a Korean Toss

gumiho held puzzle trying this build on metropolis


Gumiho did a completely different build and had radically different game plan. He did one of the double reactor rax and factory tank builds into a marine/tank push that was designed to be safe against certain attacks and put pressure. And while that build is good versus certain builds and pressures, it sacrifices tech for security, since it delays 1/1 and other things by a lot.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
June 13 2012 09:35 GMT
#380
make that 5gate :o
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