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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 13 2012 13:31 GMT
#2961
On June 13 2012 22:30 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 22:28 Destructicon wrote:
Thorzain wouldn't have held that even with Stim. Squirtle kind of got a BO win. Thorzain build so many raxes that he delayed his gas and tech enough to make himself vulnerable to a Colossus timing.

I think Squirtle got into his head with those cheeses in the first 2 games then that wierd DT warp prism stuff on Wirlwind.

He did well though in the series with Gumiho, too bad he couldn't finish it off.
And on the plus side 4/4 Liquibets.


When you don't scout you get a lot of build order losses. Who would have thought it?


Even if he scouted it, it would have been really, really difficult to transition out of that 4 rax build, Artosis said so as well as part of his final words about the game.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
June 13 2012 13:31 GMT
#2962
--- Nuked ---
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
June 13 2012 13:32 GMT
#2963
On June 13 2012 22:29 hewley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 22:28 Holgerius wrote:
These are the kind of games I enjoy the least in SC2. Make a ball from 2 base, 1a, gg. Compared to the TvT we just saw this was fucking terrible in terms of entertainment value. Even cheese games are generally more interesting, due to the intense micro going on.

Oh well, too bad that Thorzain is out.


Yeah thats why I personally hate Squirtle's playstyle. Its just so dull and boring to watch.


The DT drops in the first game were pretty sexy though. And he did a cool late blink stalker ramp FF play on Ohana against someone as well. It's not like he does 2-base colossi every game- just many games.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
June 13 2012 13:32 GMT
#2964
On June 13 2012 22:30 najreteip wrote:
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On June 13 2012 22:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 13 2012 22:26 najreteip wrote:
Squirtle is such a boring player


Awwww did your poor little foreigner get stomped? There, there don't cry too hard, he still has Code A.

Seriously the personal attacks have to stop :p
I was merely expressing my opinion, wich is that I find Squirtle boring
be nice pls

I want some kind of TL.net extension like RES so that I can tag people and keep track of them.
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SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
June 13 2012 13:32 GMT
#2965
On June 13 2012 22:31 Shaddar wrote:
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On June 13 2012 22:29 bokchoi wrote:
GSL has Genius still listed as MVPGenius, guess they havent updated it :[


When/why did Genius leave MVP?


http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/uzdne/genius_not_on_mvp_anymore/
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
June 13 2012 13:32 GMT
#2966
Wow Genius left MVP. Totally didn't see it coming D:
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Berceno
Profile Joined May 2012
Spain401 Posts
June 13 2012 13:32 GMT
#2967

On June 13 2012 22:28 Holgerius wrote:
These are the kind of games I enjoy the least in SC2. Make a ball from 2 base, 1a, gg. Compared to the TvT we just saw this was fucking terrible in terms of entertainment value. Even cheese games are generally more interesting, due to the intense micro going on.

Oh well, too bad that Thorzain is out.


just asking, what micro thorzain showed vs that colossus timing?
protoss living in da ghetto
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
June 13 2012 13:33 GMT
#2968
why would squirtle not all-in the moment he saw he could break thorzain with it....
4/4 liquibet yay
Biane
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia645 Posts
June 13 2012 13:33 GMT
#2969
On June 13 2012 22:30 Kiyo. wrote:
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On June 13 2012 22:29 Biane wrote:
On June 13 2012 22:28 Kiyo. wrote:
On June 13 2012 22:26 Soyuz wrote:
On June 13 2012 22:26 Kiyo. wrote:
No Terran bitching after this please. I'll just start mass reporting you all.


Nobody is bitching.


Were you here earlier? This thread was like 40 pages of Protoss bitching when Squirtle lost and Terrans bitching when Keen lost.


well nobody is bitching at the moment, so there's no need to get all worked up


I'm not worked up? I posted that as the game ended.


the tone of your sentence really implied so, "No Terran bitching, "mass reporting you all", those are phrases/sentences generally used in tense occasions.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
June 13 2012 13:33 GMT
#2970
On June 13 2012 22:31 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 22:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 13 2012 22:26 najreteip wrote:
Squirtle is such a boring player


Awwww did your poor little foreigner get stomped? There, there don't cry too hard, he still has Code A.

There's no need for this, najreteip was only making a very accurate observation. Squirtle is a boring player, regardless of who he plays, but since he's also successful I don't think he'll worry too much about being boring.


Squirtle has more builds than almost any other Protoss and ironically the two base collosus all in he gets so much shit for is the build "fan favourite and totally non boring player" Naniwa won MLG Invitational and made the Providence finals doing in 80% of his games.
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
June 13 2012 13:33 GMT
#2971
On June 13 2012 22:32 Berceno wrote:

Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 22:28 Holgerius wrote:
These are the kind of games I enjoy the least in SC2. Make a ball from 2 base, 1a, gg. Compared to the TvT we just saw this was fucking terrible in terms of entertainment value. Even cheese games are generally more interesting, due to the intense micro going on.

Oh well, too bad that Thorzain is out.


just asking, what micro thorzain showed vs that colossus timing?


You should work on your reading skills.
MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
June 13 2012 13:34 GMT
#2972
Squirtle has earned a bit of a reputation for his colossi timings in PvT I suppose which is why so many find his style boring. His PvZ can be some of the most entertaining going around though!
@x5_MegaFonzie
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
June 13 2012 13:34 GMT
#2973
On June 13 2012 22:31 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 22:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 13 2012 22:26 najreteip wrote:
Squirtle is such a boring player


Awwww did your poor little foreigner get stomped? There, there don't cry too hard, he still has Code A.

There's no need for this, najreteip was only making a very accurate observation. Squirtle is a boring player, regardless of who he plays, but since he's also successful I don't think he'll worry too much about being boring.


It's an opinion, so it can't be an "accurate" observation. He's done like 8 different builds over the finals and this first day of Code S. Not really sure how that can be boring.
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
June 13 2012 13:34 GMT
#2974
On June 13 2012 22:29 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 22:26 AxionSteel wrote:
On June 13 2012 22:26 najreteip wrote:
Squirtle is such a boring player


Agreed incredibly boring, but it works for him so why not do it.


I don't see this at all I have to say. Squirtle has a huge variety of builds, but because he's known for a 2 base collosus timing that's all people see perhaps? DT drops, HT + Collosus play, 1 base busts, 2 base busts, long split map macro games, etc. Aside from missing carrier play (lol j/k) what does Squirtle do that's so boring?

Reminds me of when people said MC only does 2 base timings long after they became an uncommon thing in his play.


I don't find protoss that exciting at the best of times, and he does that build all the time, which is one of the most boring builds in the game. It's just my lowly opinion He obviously can do other stuff.


Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
June 13 2012 13:34 GMT
#2975
Still got all my liquibets, but would have thrown em for Thorzain 2-rax D:
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
June 13 2012 13:34 GMT
#2976
On June 13 2012 22:32 SolidMustard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 22:31 Shaddar wrote:
On June 13 2012 22:29 bokchoi wrote:
GSL has Genius still listed as MVPGenius, guess they havent updated it :[


When/why did Genius leave MVP?


http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/uzdne/genius_not_on_mvp_anymore/


Noooo MVP is my favorite team
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
June 13 2012 13:34 GMT
#2977
On June 13 2012 22:31 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 22:30 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 13 2012 22:28 Destructicon wrote:
Thorzain wouldn't have held that even with Stim. Squirtle kind of got a BO win. Thorzain build so many raxes that he delayed his gas and tech enough to make himself vulnerable to a Colossus timing.

I think Squirtle got into his head with those cheeses in the first 2 games then that wierd DT warp prism stuff on Wirlwind.

He did well though in the series with Gumiho, too bad he couldn't finish it off.
And on the plus side 4/4 Liquibets.


When you don't scout you get a lot of build order losses. Who would have thought it?


Even if he scouted it, it would have been really, really difficult to transition out of that 4 rax build, Artosis said so as well as part of his final words about the game.


Then he's pretty dumb for doing it vs a guy who is known for two base Collosus all in's.

It's like not getting ghosts vs Parting, or doing a build which is weak to two base gateway all in's vs MC.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
June 13 2012 13:34 GMT
#2978
Squirtle is 4th place in ranking, and so will get to choose in Ro16 group nomination.
Liquipedia"Expert"
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
June 13 2012 13:34 GMT
#2979
On June 13 2012 22:30 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 22:27 Fortuna.424 wrote:
SC2 really needs to stop being all about timings, its just so boring to watch players get raped by a build
seen hundreds times before.
Hope HOTS will change this.


Timing is what make a RTS game.
You can't change that. Xx


I don't mind timings. Build order losses, eh not as much, though they're happening less and less. Still the sc2 community is too hung up on non-macro games being poor.

And from a balance design point, how would you negate such a timing? All races have timings. Negate the options of one timing, and open the door for the opposition to execute others.
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polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 13 2012 13:34 GMT
#2980
On June 13 2012 22:34 MegaFonzie wrote:
Squirtle has earned a bit of a reputation for his colossi timings in PvT I suppose which is why so many find his style boring. His PvZ can be some of the most entertaining going around though!

Anyone who thinks Squirtle is boring should watch the GSL finals. Most epic thing I ever watched in starcraft, ever.
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