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On June 12 2012 19:58 Za7oX wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 19:57 Giku wrote:On June 12 2012 19:55 Za7oX wrote:On June 12 2012 19:54 Giku wrote: So what does Nestea actually do?
Opens hatch first, pool, gas for speedlings, goes for 4 queens and another 2 added.
When does he take a third? I guess he gets baneling nest and lair @ around 6:30? He went 6 queens and take a 3rd. Then takes 4 gas, then makes a macro hatch then gets 2x upgrades first then speed then lair. Thanks  I'll test it around a bit, haven't actually played much since patch  The macro hatch might have been the last thing he did actualy. Not 100% sure Would be more logical, since you wont have the income for the need of a macro hatch at that point tbh, I guess he lairs and macro-hatches at the same time. (Since you would be spending loads of money on upgrades/evo's/banelingsnest/lair)
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From NaNi's twitter: johan lucchesi @QuanticNaNi ok checked the booth of creator. he couldnt hear anything )) ggs . he played well!
Now we can put this matter aside. Still, sound-proof booths should be there, for both of the players.
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On June 12 2012 19:58 andropopp wrote: i wont call imba just yet because maybe theres some messiah build that some terran will find in the next couple weeks that deals with zerg completely and brings it into a even lategame
what irks me about the queen is its 2food and it actually KILLS 2stim/combat shield marines or a zealot or a stalker. In fact, queens FOOD FOR FOOD i believe can kill EVERY UNIT IN THE GAME (carrier, battlecruiser, roach, hydra, broodlord, collossi, banshee, voidray, hellion, tank, marauder)
the only units i think queens cannot beat is thor, ultralisk, and battlecruiser maybe (due to the high armor and health, but im not sure queens might almost win). and thats all WITHOUT transfuse being used. So queens are so powerful and PLUS they have transfuse which is like 1click for a instant massive heal instantly making another queen.... On paper queens do seem ultra powerful
MKP vs DRG at MLG showed that pretty much if the terran tries to rev his engine and power out with the zerg and compete in the lategame he gets toasted. MKP did beat Stephano with a pure marine marauder medivac army but i dont think that can be the answer it cant be stephano was just outmicro'ed he usually seems to lose steam at the end of tournaments and plenty engagement stephano could have won but didnt get the right fungals MKP was outmicro'ing but i think a zerg should be able to stop that from happening and get off good fungals and normally win so i dont think MMM is the true answer MKP was just insane that game and made it work
no i think theres another answer out there. or i hope there is. some messiah build will hopefully arrive and bring terran back into shape.... or at least i hope that will happen
that lost you all your credibility.
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On June 12 2012 19:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 19:57 Asha` wrote:johan lucchesi @QuanticNaNi ok checked the booth of creator. he couldnt hear anything  )) ggs . he played well! now can we stop this drama Boooo You're no fun Asha`.  Yeah wtf? I think they just removed the speaker from the booth.
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On June 12 2012 19:59 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 19:57 Asha` wrote:johan lucchesi @QuanticNaNi ok checked the booth of creator. he couldnt hear anything  )) ggs . he played well! now can we stop this drama I am afraid the damage has been done. Mark my words, now when someone's favorite player loses they will blame it on the booths.
No, no they really wont lol
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Hatch cancel into proxy spines INCOMING! :D:D
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2 ling + queen pressure? >_>
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On June 12 2012 19:59 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 19:57 Asha` wrote:johan lucchesi @QuanticNaNi ok checked the booth of creator. he couldnt hear anything  )) ggs . he played well! now can we stop this drama I am afraid the damage has been done. Mark my words, now when someone's favorite player loses they will blame it on the booths. You fail to realize that this isn't the first time that its been brought up.
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On June 12 2012 19:58 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 19:57 Asha` wrote:johan lucchesi @QuanticNaNi ok checked the booth of creator. he couldnt hear anything  )) ggs . he played well! now can we stop this drama still, both booths should be soundproof, even if Naniwa could only hear the commentators in game 1 for whatever reason
Of course, but they're supposed to be as evidenced by Creator's being fine. There was obviously an unexpected issue in game 1 (maybe the white noise machine in nani's booth not working quite right or the speaker was acting up), but it's not normal and it didn't affect the games so let's move on.
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NesTea this isn't ZvT, why's your queen in the middle of the map
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??? what's the queen for??
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On June 12 2012 19:59 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 19:58 andropopp wrote: i wont call imba just yet because maybe theres some messiah build that some terran will find in the next couple weeks that deals with zerg completely and brings it into a even lategame
what irks me about the queen is its 2food and it actually KILLS 2stim/combat shield marines or a zealot or a stalker. In fact, queens FOOD FOR FOOD i believe can kill EVERY UNIT IN THE GAME (carrier, battlecruiser, roach, hydra, broodlord, collossi, banshee, voidray, hellion, tank, marauder)
the only units i think queens cannot beat is thor, ultralisk, and battlecruiser maybe (due to the high armor and health, but im not sure queens might almost win). and thats all WITHOUT transfuse being used. So queens are so powerful and PLUS they have transfuse which is like 1click for a instant massive heal instantly making another queen.... On paper queens do seem ultra powerful
MKP vs DRG at MLG showed that pretty much if the terran tries to rev his engine and power out with the zerg and compete in the lategame he gets toasted. MKP did beat Stephano with a pure marine marauder medivac army but i dont think that can be the answer it cant be stephano was just outmicro'ed he usually seems to lose steam at the end of tournaments and plenty engagement stephano could have won but didnt get the right fungals MKP was outmicro'ing but i think a zerg should be able to stop that from happening and get off good fungals and normally win so i dont think MMM is the true answer MKP was just insane that game and made it work
no i think theres another answer out there. or i hope there is. some messiah build will hopefully arrive and bring terran back into shape.... or at least i hope that will happen
So why doesn't everyone mass queen? Im going mass queens in all my games now. They are nonlight hydralisks that can spread creep and heal! best unit in the game
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Build More Queens = send them across the map. Fuck creep spread.
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Quick Lair into creep spread?
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Nestea is on to something for sure
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Is Nestea breaking the game again?
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what the hell nestea is doing with that queen
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LOL Nestea proxy hatch cheese here?
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On June 12 2012 19:59 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 19:43 Seany wrote:On June 12 2012 19:38 ImNightmare wrote:On June 12 2012 19:37 MVTaylor wrote:Naniwa absolutely doesn't want to cause controversy. johan lucchesi @QuanticNaNi cool shit, could hear korean commentators in game 1. i tell gsl but they just start the next game  . dont think creator cheat. just sad. zzzzz, again? Seriously? Why is it always naniwa who complains about things like this when so many other players have said nothing about it, which probably says something about naniwa's credibility? rofl its now bad to talk about issues like this??? I think being able to hear the commentators would be a pretty massive issue for a major tournament? and.. wouldn't it make him more credible? That he is honest enough to say something.. no? NaNiwa has been playing in GOM studio for a while. If this is the first time he noticed it, then maybe something wasn't set up correctly that particular time. He can pause the game if he thought it was a problem. It's been done before. Instead he goes "HEY I'm ABSOLUTELY NOT saying Creator cheats but hear me out..." He didn't imply that he cheated at all. Chill out. Stop causing drama.
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