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If elfi isn't available does that mean we're going to see Mondragon play?
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No way Acer can win this one. MKP got an all-kill against Startale yesterday, but any Prime member would probably be enough to achieve that feat against Acer. Poor guys, it's gonna be a slaughterhouse.
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Yay the prime B team gets playtime!
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On June 05 2012 00:03 stardog wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2012 22:43 StarVe wrote: Bly or Elfi (if he still played) could potentially beat some Protoss player, Nerchio or maybe Bly could beat a Zerg if Prime decides to start one of those, but when they send out Terrans, Acer's pretty much fucked. Well, Nerchio recently beat ThorZaIN in HP Trophy, LucifroN in ESL Country Championships and Kas in Fnatic RaidCall Invitational, so he isn't that bad versus terran. Sure, he won't be favored against a Korean player (I guess Stephano, HuK and NaNiwa currently are the only foreigners that could sometimes be called that) but an upset (taking one-two games) isn't impossible. Unless Prime's B-team is used (which it's very likely to be), Maru, Byun and MarineKing are like 2 calibers above all the Terran you mentioned, they might as well play an entirely different race, Nerchio's ZvForeignT won't be enough. He needs some ZvCodeST skill instead.
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On June 05 2012 00:03 stardog wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2012 22:43 StarVe wrote: Bly or Elfi (if he still played) could potentially beat some Protoss player, Nerchio or maybe Bly could beat a Zerg if Prime decides to start one of those, but when they send out Terrans, Acer's pretty much fucked. Well, Nerchio recently beat ThorZaIN in HP Trophy, LucifroN in ESL Country Championships and Kas in Fnatic RaidCall Invitational, so he isn't that bad versus terran. Sure, he won't be favored against a Korean player (I guess Stephano, HuK and NaNiwa currently are the only foreigners that could sometimes be called that) but an upset (taking one-two games) isn't impossible.
if it were some random korean players on prime, acer would definately have a chance. But I think all their hope will end, when prime sends out one of their 5 top players (mkp, byun, maru, creator, b4). But I would rather see if Aria or Salmosa can show some skills.
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oh man i hope this was played after elfi left so we get to see some mondi action
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On June 05 2012 00:13 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 00:03 stardog wrote:On June 04 2012 22:43 StarVe wrote: Bly or Elfi (if he still played) could potentially beat some Protoss player, Nerchio or maybe Bly could beat a Zerg if Prime decides to start one of those, but when they send out Terrans, Acer's pretty much fucked. Well, Nerchio recently beat ThorZaIN in HP Trophy, LucifroN in ESL Country Championships and Kas in Fnatic RaidCall Invitational, so he isn't that bad versus terran. Sure, he won't be favored against a Korean player (I guess Stephano, HuK and NaNiwa currently are the only foreigners that could sometimes be called that) but an upset (taking one-two games) isn't impossible. Unless Prime's B-team is used (which it's very likely to be), Maru, Byun and MarineKing are like 2 calibers above all the Terran you mentioned, they might as well play an entirely different race, Nerchio's ZvForeignT won't be enough. He needs some ZvCodeST skill instead.
nah that's not true
thorzain, kas and lucifron often win against koreans and they are some of the few foreigners that beat koreans regularly (lucifron not so much but he has had some showmatches and cup-matches vs koreans)
they might not be on the same level as MKP but they are not that far behind the oterhs you mentioned...
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Prime needs more protosses. I hope they're recruiting. Other than that, I hope Prime takes this while displaying some of their B teamer talents. Even losing but showing good games is good exposure and experience for them.
On the other hand, I don't think Acer can upset the Prime
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On June 05 2012 20:47 sVnteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 00:13 ZenithM wrote:On June 05 2012 00:03 stardog wrote:On June 04 2012 22:43 StarVe wrote: Bly or Elfi (if he still played) could potentially beat some Protoss player, Nerchio or maybe Bly could beat a Zerg if Prime decides to start one of those, but when they send out Terrans, Acer's pretty much fucked. Well, Nerchio recently beat ThorZaIN in HP Trophy, LucifroN in ESL Country Championships and Kas in Fnatic RaidCall Invitational, so he isn't that bad versus terran. Sure, he won't be favored against a Korean player (I guess Stephano, HuK and NaNiwa currently are the only foreigners that could sometimes be called that) but an upset (taking one-two games) isn't impossible. Unless Prime's B-team is used (which it's very likely to be), Maru, Byun and MarineKing are like 2 calibers above all the Terran you mentioned, they might as well play an entirely different race, Nerchio's ZvForeignT won't be enough. He needs some ZvCodeST skill instead. nah that's not true thorzain, kas and lucifron often win against koreans and they are some of the few foreigners that beat koreans regularly (lucifron not so much but he has had some showmatches and cup-matches vs koreans) they might not be on the same level as MKP but they are not that far behind the oterhs you mentioned... 2 calibers sounds about right to me. We have foreigner terran caliber ie thorzain etc then low korean caliber e.g the average good korean terran then top tier korean ie Prime Terrans. So yes, 2 tiers 
On June 05 2012 22:22 Beeblistical wrote:Prime needs more protosses. I hope they're recruiting. Other than that, I hope Prime takes this while displaying some of their B teamer talents. Even losing but showing good games is good exposure and experience for them. On the other hand, I don't think Acer can upset the Prime 
I wouldn't mind seeing another A/S-class protoss and zerg join prime. maybe life, tear, etc
GOOO PRIMMEEEE
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On June 05 2012 22:23 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 20:47 sVnteen wrote:On June 05 2012 00:13 ZenithM wrote:On June 05 2012 00:03 stardog wrote:On June 04 2012 22:43 StarVe wrote: Bly or Elfi (if he still played) could potentially beat some Protoss player, Nerchio or maybe Bly could beat a Zerg if Prime decides to start one of those, but when they send out Terrans, Acer's pretty much fucked. Well, Nerchio recently beat ThorZaIN in HP Trophy, LucifroN in ESL Country Championships and Kas in Fnatic RaidCall Invitational, so he isn't that bad versus terran. Sure, he won't be favored against a Korean player (I guess Stephano, HuK and NaNiwa currently are the only foreigners that could sometimes be called that) but an upset (taking one-two games) isn't impossible. Unless Prime's B-team is used (which it's very likely to be), Maru, Byun and MarineKing are like 2 calibers above all the Terran you mentioned, they might as well play an entirely different race, Nerchio's ZvForeignT won't be enough. He needs some ZvCodeST skill instead. nah that's not true thorzain, kas and lucifron often win against koreans and they are some of the few foreigners that beat koreans regularly (lucifron not so much but he has had some showmatches and cup-matches vs koreans) they might not be on the same level as MKP but they are not that far behind the oterhs you mentioned... 2 calibers sounds about right to me. We have foreigner terran caliber ie thorzain etc then low korean caliber e.g the average good korean terran
LOL low korean Terrans are not a level above Thorzain.
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UPDATE: This match is now going to be played on Wednesday, June 6th. Liquid vs Mouz will be today, June 5th!
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On June 06 2012 01:23 Champloo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 22:23 opterown wrote:On June 05 2012 20:47 sVnteen wrote:On June 05 2012 00:13 ZenithM wrote:On June 05 2012 00:03 stardog wrote:On June 04 2012 22:43 StarVe wrote: Bly or Elfi (if he still played) could potentially beat some Protoss player, Nerchio or maybe Bly could beat a Zerg if Prime decides to start one of those, but when they send out Terrans, Acer's pretty much fucked. Well, Nerchio recently beat ThorZaIN in HP Trophy, LucifroN in ESL Country Championships and Kas in Fnatic RaidCall Invitational, so he isn't that bad versus terran. Sure, he won't be favored against a Korean player (I guess Stephano, HuK and NaNiwa currently are the only foreigners that could sometimes be called that) but an upset (taking one-two games) isn't impossible. Unless Prime's B-team is used (which it's very likely to be), Maru, Byun and MarineKing are like 2 calibers above all the Terran you mentioned, they might as well play an entirely different race, Nerchio's ZvForeignT won't be enough. He needs some ZvCodeST skill instead. nah that's not true thorzain, kas and lucifron often win against koreans and they are some of the few foreigners that beat koreans regularly (lucifron not so much but he has had some showmatches and cup-matches vs koreans) they might not be on the same level as MKP but they are not that far behind the oterhs you mentioned... 2 calibers sounds about right to me. We have foreigner terran caliber ie thorzain etc then low korean caliber e.g the average good korean terran LOL low korean Terrans are not a level above Thorzain. yes they are...
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On June 06 2012 07:40 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2012 01:23 Champloo wrote:On June 05 2012 22:23 opterown wrote:On June 05 2012 20:47 sVnteen wrote:On June 05 2012 00:13 ZenithM wrote:On June 05 2012 00:03 stardog wrote:On June 04 2012 22:43 StarVe wrote: Bly or Elfi (if he still played) could potentially beat some Protoss player, Nerchio or maybe Bly could beat a Zerg if Prime decides to start one of those, but when they send out Terrans, Acer's pretty much fucked. Well, Nerchio recently beat ThorZaIN in HP Trophy, LucifroN in ESL Country Championships and Kas in Fnatic RaidCall Invitational, so he isn't that bad versus terran. Sure, he won't be favored against a Korean player (I guess Stephano, HuK and NaNiwa currently are the only foreigners that could sometimes be called that) but an upset (taking one-two games) isn't impossible. Unless Prime's B-team is used (which it's very likely to be), Maru, Byun and MarineKing are like 2 calibers above all the Terran you mentioned, they might as well play an entirely different race, Nerchio's ZvForeignT won't be enough. He needs some ZvCodeST skill instead. nah that's not true thorzain, kas and lucifron often win against koreans and they are some of the few foreigners that beat koreans regularly (lucifron not so much but he has had some showmatches and cup-matches vs koreans) they might not be on the same level as MKP but they are not that far behind the oterhs you mentioned... 2 calibers sounds about right to me. We have foreigner terran caliber ie thorzain etc then low korean caliber e.g the average good korean terran LOL low korean Terrans are not a level above Thorzain. yes they are... No they aren't.
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On June 06 2012 07:51 ssg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2012 07:40 opterown wrote:On June 06 2012 01:23 Champloo wrote:On June 05 2012 22:23 opterown wrote:On June 05 2012 20:47 sVnteen wrote:On June 05 2012 00:13 ZenithM wrote:On June 05 2012 00:03 stardog wrote:On June 04 2012 22:43 StarVe wrote: Bly or Elfi (if he still played) could potentially beat some Protoss player, Nerchio or maybe Bly could beat a Zerg if Prime decides to start one of those, but when they send out Terrans, Acer's pretty much fucked. Well, Nerchio recently beat ThorZaIN in HP Trophy, LucifroN in ESL Country Championships and Kas in Fnatic RaidCall Invitational, so he isn't that bad versus terran. Sure, he won't be favored against a Korean player (I guess Stephano, HuK and NaNiwa currently are the only foreigners that could sometimes be called that) but an upset (taking one-two games) isn't impossible. Unless Prime's B-team is used (which it's very likely to be), Maru, Byun and MarineKing are like 2 calibers above all the Terran you mentioned, they might as well play an entirely different race, Nerchio's ZvForeignT won't be enough. He needs some ZvCodeST skill instead. nah that's not true thorzain, kas and lucifron often win against koreans and they are some of the few foreigners that beat koreans regularly (lucifron not so much but he has had some showmatches and cup-matches vs koreans) they might not be on the same level as MKP but they are not that far behind the oterhs you mentioned... 2 calibers sounds about right to me. We have foreigner terran caliber ie thorzain etc then low korean caliber e.g the average good korean terran LOL low korean Terrans are not a level above Thorzain. yes they are... No they aren't. Top korean terrans = mma, mvp, marineking, taeja, etc lower korean terrans = gumiho, supernova, thestc, keen, forgg, puma etc
Even though thorzain has more achievements and exposure, skillwise I think he's a fair way behind. he can trade sets and take games for sure, but i doubt he's really favoured against them
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I haven't seen Dayfly or Nettie in forever. Also, Gerrard all-kill inc.
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Let's see another MKP all-kill
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So, who actually voted for acer? Lol
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On June 06 2012 10:33 Whatson wrote: So, who actually voted for acer? Lol
Judging by the number of votes I'd say acer 
+ Show Spoiler +I kid I kid, but it was too perfect (6 people voted Acer at time of posting)
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