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Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
May 27 2012 04:13 GMT
#3681
MC rolled Ostojy
I've got moves like Jagger
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
May 27 2012 04:13 GMT
#3682
Did they skip Lastshadows last match and not show it at all?
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
May 27 2012 04:13 GMT
#3683
Oh wow that was pretty one sided.
brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
May 27 2012 04:13 GMT
#3684
On May 27 2012 13:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 13:03 brokenLoL wrote:
On May 27 2012 13:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:59 brokenLoL wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:49 Kommander wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:48 brokenLoL wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:47 aznball123 wrote:
MC always loses to Huk, not really surprised there lol

PvP is 100% pure luck so yeah.


Uhh, no.


Yea you're right. Not even kidding. PvP actually does require skill. MC outplaying HuK so bad. HuK made the mistake of no detection. He should have known but I don't know he didn't make a robo.

Also, if Ostojiy loses to HuK, that'll be the upset of the whole battle ground.


What?

As opposed to LastShadow beating someone?


I don't know if you've been paying attention but LS is sick; HuK is in perfect condition.


That's all the more reason for HuK to beat Ostojiy. Players tend to perform better when they're healthier >.>

I don't know if you've been paying attention to SC2 but HuK is a better player, and while Ostojiy isn't bad, he's certainly not favored against HuK... and certainly not to the extent that HuK is so bad and Ostojiy is so good that HuK should get raped by him.


Umm... Ostojiy is fairly new, which is why he does not have as much achievements. HuK has been around for quite a while which is why he has those achievements... people like you only look for achievements while objective viewers like me pay attention to raw skill. When it comes to raw skill Ostojiy has HuK beat in every way possible: macro, micro, game sense, good looks..... everything.
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whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
May 27 2012 04:13 GMT
#3685
Wait, they didn't broadcast LS vs Parting? They just skipped another 0-2. Only match they skipped today?
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 27 2012 04:13 GMT
#3686
Lets go Ret. I believe.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
May 27 2012 04:14 GMT
#3687
On May 27 2012 13:13 Jarree wrote:
Did they skip Lastshadows last match and not show it at all?


hopefully
Terran & Potato Salad.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
May 27 2012 04:14 GMT
#3688
On May 27 2012 13:13 Jarree wrote:
Did they skip Lastshadows last match and not show it at all?


Apparently. I wonder if LastShadow just forfeited, it seemed to be over quite quick.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
May 27 2012 04:14 GMT
#3689
On May 27 2012 13:13 brokenLoL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 13:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 27 2012 13:03 brokenLoL wrote:
On May 27 2012 13:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:59 brokenLoL wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:49 Kommander wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:48 brokenLoL wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:47 aznball123 wrote:
MC always loses to Huk, not really surprised there lol

PvP is 100% pure luck so yeah.


Uhh, no.


Yea you're right. Not even kidding. PvP actually does require skill. MC outplaying HuK so bad. HuK made the mistake of no detection. He should have known but I don't know he didn't make a robo.

Also, if Ostojiy loses to HuK, that'll be the upset of the whole battle ground.


What?

As opposed to LastShadow beating someone?


I don't know if you've been paying attention but LS is sick; HuK is in perfect condition.


That's all the more reason for HuK to beat Ostojiy. Players tend to perform better when they're healthier >.>

I don't know if you've been paying attention to SC2 but HuK is a better player, and while Ostojiy isn't bad, he's certainly not favored against HuK... and certainly not to the extent that HuK is so bad and Ostojiy is so good that HuK should get raped by him.


Umm... Ostojiy is fairly new, which is why he does not have as much achievements. HuK has been around for quite a while which is why he has those achievements... people like you only look for achievements while objective viewers like me pay attention to raw skill. When it comes to raw skill Ostojiy has HuK beat in every way possible: macro, micro, game sense, good looks..... everything.

Is ostojiy really that good?! I wasn't aware of that lol

Whatever, MC gogo, looking forward to his series against Bomber.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
May 27 2012 04:14 GMT
#3690
On May 27 2012 13:13 Jarree wrote:
Did they skip Lastshadows last match and not show it at all?


Yeah, said he lost so he got eliminated from group 0-3
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 27 2012 04:14 GMT
#3691
On May 27 2012 13:14 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 13:13 Jarree wrote:
Did they skip Lastshadows last match and not show it at all?


hopefully


Yea, hopefully, or maybe lastshadow just didn't want to play his last game because he can't make it through and doesn't want to embarrass himself anymore.
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
May 27 2012 04:15 GMT
#3692
On May 27 2012 13:08 Shaddar wrote:
When did LastShadow talk shit? Did I miss something?


Lastshadow talks shit all the time on TL.

I remember translating an article of Xigua in WCG he was commentating how Xigua is lucky to get 2nd and he has no skill and cheeses all the time on KR ladder.

And in one thread he says Firebathero is bad in SC2 for a progamer who played 2000 games.
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
iAmBiGbiRd
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia1029 Posts
May 27 2012 04:15 GMT
#3693
On May 27 2012 13:10 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 13:04 Jazzman88 wrote:
Was expecting a bit more from someone who used to gloat that they were a top 5 foreigner terran player.


Well, in all fairness to him, Squirtle is one of the best Protoss in the world right now, giving even MVP a run for his money. No one would argue that LastShadow is anywhere NEAR MVP's skill, so I don't see why we would expect him to beat Squirtle. The games against Ret were disappointing because he lost Banshees due to missed micro and a couple of poor timing choices with his mech.

And while I don't think that Day9 was necessarily wise to invite LastShadow from a PR standpoint, it was a replacement for Polt who had to back out, and there isn't anything wrong with giving unexposed players a chance to see if they can play with the big boys. If Day9 had invited literally anyone else in the world who had done some sort of progaming and was a current player, no one would have bitched (to this extent). They think it's simply because the two are friends. What about Sheth? Day9 practices with him and they're good friends, so why are we not upset about Sheth? True, Sheth has much more results than LastShadow, but I bet you could think of people who were arguably more skilled to TRY and invite (TO BE CLEAR: I AM NOT ARGUING SHETH SHOULDN'T BE THERE: it just seems to me that people are being harsher than necessary). It's not a matter of getting the 16 best players or 16 players with the most aggregate tournament appearances.

People need to take a chill pill and just enjoy the games. That last game against Squirtle was pretty epic with the proxy hellions and then the bitbybit moment with Squirtle's EXCELLENT positioning and Storm timings.


For me personally, the Lastshadow felt like it truly came out of left field. I mean, it's an invitational, so we as spectators to a free-to-watch tournament can't complain too much, but it just seems that Lastshadow just disappeared from the scene back in 2010 when he got 4th at an MLG and just suddenly pops back up. It's kind of like inviting a guy like Cauthonluck or something.

Lastshadow was put in a pretty shitty position though. How do you turn down an invite like this, yet everyone expects you to fail (and some even hope you fail), and you are in a group with Ret, Squirtle and PartinG? A tough situation indeed.


Yeah pretty much this. The only chance he had of getting some respect/less hate from the community was to somehow upset the two best PvT players on the planet or beat Ret who is a monster. Instead he lost which a lot of players would and is getting shit on, plus he has probably read this thread and the prior thread and saw all the hate so wouldn't have helped his mindset or confidence much
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Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
May 27 2012 04:15 GMT
#3694
On May 27 2012 13:12 ronpaul012 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 13:08 Shaddar wrote:
When did LastShadow talk shit? Did I miss something?


Here you go, and for everyone else who missed it, this was posted last week, so it's not as if this stuff is old " I think foreigners are terrible in StarCraft2 and don't deserve to beat Koreans." And thats not the only cases, he talks about it a lot. but that was the most recent.

Heres the full interview: http://www.team-dignitas.org/articles/blogs/Interview/1430/Interview-with-Lastshadow-We-owe-a-lot-to-StarCraft-1-but-also-to-Korea-for-actually-making-it-an-e-Sport/


Thanks. I can see why people find that attitude offputting. He did say Ret was a good foreigner though, so I would have thought TT1 would love him for that.
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
May 27 2012 04:15 GMT
#3695
On May 27 2012 13:13 brokenLoL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 13:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 27 2012 13:03 brokenLoL wrote:
On May 27 2012 13:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:59 brokenLoL wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:49 Kommander wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:48 brokenLoL wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:47 aznball123 wrote:
MC always loses to Huk, not really surprised there lol

PvP is 100% pure luck so yeah.


Uhh, no.


Yea you're right. Not even kidding. PvP actually does require skill. MC outplaying HuK so bad. HuK made the mistake of no detection. He should have known but I don't know he didn't make a robo.

Also, if Ostojiy loses to HuK, that'll be the upset of the whole battle ground.


What?

As opposed to LastShadow beating someone?


I don't know if you've been paying attention but LS is sick; HuK is in perfect condition.


That's all the more reason for HuK to beat Ostojiy. Players tend to perform better when they're healthier >.>

I don't know if you've been paying attention to SC2 but HuK is a better player, and while Ostojiy isn't bad, he's certainly not favored against HuK... and certainly not to the extent that HuK is so bad and Ostojiy is so good that HuK should get raped by him.


Umm... Ostojiy is fairly new, which is why he does not have as much achievements. HuK has been around for quite a while which is why he has those achievements... people like you only look for achievements while objective viewers like me pay attention to raw skill. When it comes to raw skill Ostojiy has HuK beat in every way possible: macro, micro, game sense, good looks..... everything.

what have you been drinking?
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fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
May 27 2012 04:15 GMT
#3696
On May 27 2012 13:10 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 13:04 Jazzman88 wrote:
Was expecting a bit more from someone who used to gloat that they were a top 5 foreigner terran player.


Well, in all fairness to him, Squirtle is one of the best Protoss in the world right now, giving even MVP a run for his money. No one would argue that LastShadow is anywhere NEAR MVP's skill, so I don't see why we would expect him to beat Squirtle. The games against Ret were disappointing because he lost Banshees due to missed micro and a couple of poor timing choices with his mech.

And while I don't think that Day9 was necessarily wise to invite LastShadow from a PR standpoint, it was a replacement for Polt who had to back out, and there isn't anything wrong with giving unexposed players a chance to see if they can play with the big boys. If Day9 had invited literally anyone else in the world who had done some sort of progaming and was a current player, no one would have bitched (to this extent). They think it's simply because the two are friends. What about Sheth? Day9 practices with him and they're good friends, so why are we not upset about Sheth? True, Sheth has much more results than LastShadow, but I bet you could think of people who were arguably more skilled to TRY and invite (TO BE CLEAR: I AM NOT ARGUING SHETH SHOULDN'T BE THERE: it just seems to me that people are being harsher than necessary). It's not a matter of getting the 16 best players or 16 players with the most aggregate tournament appearances.

People need to take a chill pill and just enjoy the games. That last game against Squirtle was pretty epic with the proxy hellions and then the bitbybit moment with Squirtle's EXCELLENT positioning and Storm timings.


For me personally, the Lastshadow felt like it truly came out of left field. I mean, it's an invitational, so we as spectators to a free-to-watch tournament can't complain too much, but it just seems that Lastshadow just disappeared from the scene back in 2010 when he got 4th at an MLG and just suddenly pops back up. It's kind of like inviting a guy like Cauthonluck or something.

Lastshadow was put in a pretty shitty position though. How do you turn down an invite like this, yet everyone expects you to fail (and some even hope you fail), and you are in a group with Ret, Squirtle and PartinG? A tough situation indeed.


In his position you just try and play the best goddamn game you can and sadly that involved losing to a zealot and stalker.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44342 Posts
May 27 2012 04:17 GMT
#3697
On May 27 2012 13:13 brokenLoL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 13:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 27 2012 13:03 brokenLoL wrote:
On May 27 2012 13:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:59 brokenLoL wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:49 Kommander wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:48 brokenLoL wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:47 aznball123 wrote:
MC always loses to Huk, not really surprised there lol

PvP is 100% pure luck so yeah.


Uhh, no.


Yea you're right. Not even kidding. PvP actually does require skill. MC outplaying HuK so bad. HuK made the mistake of no detection. He should have known but I don't know he didn't make a robo.

Also, if Ostojiy loses to HuK, that'll be the upset of the whole battle ground.


What?

As opposed to LastShadow beating someone?


I don't know if you've been paying attention but LS is sick; HuK is in perfect condition.


That's all the more reason for HuK to beat Ostojiy. Players tend to perform better when they're healthier >.>

I don't know if you've been paying attention to SC2 but HuK is a better player, and while Ostojiy isn't bad, he's certainly not favored against HuK... and certainly not to the extent that HuK is so bad and Ostojiy is so good that HuK should get raped by him.


Umm... Ostojiy is fairly new, which is why he does not have as much achievements. HuK has been around for quite a while which is why he has those achievements... people like you only look for achievements while objective viewers like me pay attention to raw skill. When it comes to raw skill Ostojiy has HuK beat in every way possible: macro, micro, game sense, good looks..... everything.


Just realized you were trolling. Hard.

Well played.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
May 27 2012 04:17 GMT
#3698
On May 27 2012 13:15 Shaddar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 13:12 ronpaul012 wrote:
On May 27 2012 13:08 Shaddar wrote:
When did LastShadow talk shit? Did I miss something?


Here you go, and for everyone else who missed it, this was posted last week, so it's not as if this stuff is old " I think foreigners are terrible in StarCraft2 and don't deserve to beat Koreans." And thats not the only cases, he talks about it a lot. but that was the most recent.

Heres the full interview: http://www.team-dignitas.org/articles/blogs/Interview/1430/Interview-with-Lastshadow-We-owe-a-lot-to-StarCraft-1-but-also-to-Korea-for-actually-making-it-an-e-Sport/


Thanks. I can see why people find that attitude offputting. He did say Ret was a good foreigner though, so I would have thought TT1 would love him for that.


the thread im referring to is the one where he got in a flamewar with gosi[terran]
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Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
May 27 2012 04:17 GMT
#3699
Husky's stream becoming R-rated
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brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
May 27 2012 04:17 GMT
#3700
On May 27 2012 13:14 Aerisky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 13:13 brokenLoL wrote:
On May 27 2012 13:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 27 2012 13:03 brokenLoL wrote:
On May 27 2012 13:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:59 brokenLoL wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:49 Kommander wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:48 brokenLoL wrote:
On May 27 2012 12:47 aznball123 wrote:
MC always loses to Huk, not really surprised there lol

PvP is 100% pure luck so yeah.


Uhh, no.


Yea you're right. Not even kidding. PvP actually does require skill. MC outplaying HuK so bad. HuK made the mistake of no detection. He should have known but I don't know he didn't make a robo.

Also, if Ostojiy loses to HuK, that'll be the upset of the whole battle ground.


What?

As opposed to LastShadow beating someone?


I don't know if you've been paying attention but LS is sick; HuK is in perfect condition.


That's all the more reason for HuK to beat Ostojiy. Players tend to perform better when they're healthier >.>

I don't know if you've been paying attention to SC2 but HuK is a better player, and while Ostojiy isn't bad, he's certainly not favored against HuK... and certainly not to the extent that HuK is so bad and Ostojiy is so good that HuK should get raped by him.


Umm... Ostojiy is fairly new, which is why he does not have as much achievements. HuK has been around for quite a while which is why he has those achievements... people like you only look for achievements while objective viewers like me pay attention to raw skill. When it comes to raw skill Ostojiy has HuK beat in every way possible: macro, micro, game sense, good looks..... everything.

Is ostojiy really that good?! I wasn't aware of that lol

Whatever, MC gogo, looking forward to his series against Bomber.


Are you trying to say that I am over exaggerating Ostojiy's skill? He's simply a better player than HuK. Simple as that, just like MC is a better player than HuK.
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