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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
May 24 2012 12:52 GMT
#1181
On May 24 2012 21:50 LeLfe wrote:
the 3 of them play a Terran that is already eliminated, don't see any of them losing, so most likely going for a 3way tie

I don't know. We saw already-defeated players win 2/2 in the last two groups.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
May 24 2012 12:53 GMT
#1182
Khaldor isn't entirely correct there. If Zenio wins and MC loses, Seed will still have to play, because he would lose in a tie with MC.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
bigbeau
Profile Joined October 2010
368 Posts
May 24 2012 12:54 GMT
#1183
Posted this earlier but just so it doesnt get lost in the thread. In response to someone saying 2 fungals kill marines with or without combat shield:

TL;DR Medivacs heal 3 HP every time they cast the heal ability on a unit. They do this about 3 times a second. Over the course of 2 fungals, a medivacs will heal a unit about 24 times. A marine with combat shield only needs to be healed twice (6 HP) for it to survive 2 fungals with 1 hp remaining. That equates to one medivac per 12 marines, a reasonable number. So having combat shield will most likely save a marine from a two-fungal death if medivacs are involved.

Medivacs heal 9 hp/sec. Fungals do 30 damage over 4 secs. Marines have 45 health w/o combat and 55 with.

An issue arises in that medivacs heal 9 hp/sec focusing a single marine, but they spread out their healing over the army. They do heal 3 hp every 'heal', so lets assume the marines getting healed for 3 hp/3 sec or 1 hp/sec since thats about the time it takes for a medivac to heal all the other marines.

Without combat shield: Marine gets fungaled, takes 30 damage, gets healed for 4 hp. Has 19 Health Remaining. Gets fungaled again, dies.

With combat shield: Marines gets fungaled, takes 30 damage, gets healed for 4 hp. Has 29 Health remaining. Gets fungaled again,Has 3 health remaining, thats an extra fungal.

Obviously some crude math with the medivac healing rate, but the medivac would only have to heal the marine twice within the 8 seconds ( Each heal is 3 HP) to live with 1 life with combat shield.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
May 24 2012 12:54 GMT
#1184
On May 24 2012 21:52 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 21:50 LeLfe wrote:
the 3 of them play a Terran that is already eliminated, don't see any of them losing, so most likely going for a 3way tie

I don't know. We saw already-defeated players win 2/2 in the last two groups.


they're ll out and hopeless whatever happen, othe rplayers can't choke but they won't be "that" motivated imo
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 12:56:26
May 24 2012 12:55 GMT
#1185
On May 24 2012 21:53 TheBB wrote:
Khaldor isn't entirely correct there. If Zenio wins and MC loses, Seed will still have to play, because he would lose in a tie with MC.

Blah, sorry. Re-read your post. I'm silly.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
May 24 2012 12:55 GMT
#1186
On May 24 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 21:51 tree.hugger wrote:
T_T Tree. And can't all these guys get in? Let's kick someone else out of Code S.


I like this idea, let all 3 in and kick out Line :D


I'm not sure Zenio would have won a group with Polt and Jjakji in it
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 24 2012 12:55 GMT
#1187
On May 24 2012 21:55 NuclearJudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 21:53 TheBB wrote:
Khaldor isn't entirely correct there. If Zenio wins and MC loses, Seed will still have to play, because he would lose in a tie with MC.

But he beat Zenio, so doesn't he win that tie? (MC 4-1, Seed and Zenio 3-2 with Seed 1-0 between them?)


That would be MC winning and Zenio losing, not MC losing and Zenio winning as he wrote.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 24 2012 12:56 GMT
#1188
On May 24 2012 21:55 SkullZ9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:51 tree.hugger wrote:
T_T Tree. And can't all these guys get in? Let's kick someone else out of Code S.


I like this idea, let all 3 in and kick out Line :D


I'm not sure Zenio would have won a group with Polt and Jjakji in it


Yeah but Line got a walkover in round 1 then lost 0-2 to MMA, then cheesed his way to Code S without winning a single game in bo3 series' -_-
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
May 24 2012 12:56 GMT
#1189
Can't MC and SEED both lose and then the 3 way tie would still be in place?
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
May 24 2012 12:56 GMT
#1190
On May 24 2012 21:55 NuclearJudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 21:53 TheBB wrote:
Khaldor isn't entirely correct there. If Zenio wins and MC loses, Seed will still have to play, because he would lose in a tie with MC.

But he beat Zenio, so doesn't he win that tie? (MC 4-1, Seed and Zenio 3-2 with Seed 1-0 between them?)

The hypothetical was Zenio winning and MC losing. That puts Zenio at 4-1 and MC on 3-2. Seed lost to MC.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 24 2012 12:56 GMT
#1191
Balls to it, I'll just wait for the VODs to go up. Linux sucks.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
May 24 2012 12:57 GMT
#1192
This group has turned into 'who can bash the Terran best' now =D
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
May 24 2012 12:57 GMT
#1193
I thought that drone scout was kinda pointless but then Hack built the CC in vision of it
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
May 24 2012 12:57 GMT
#1194
Good Will Huting shoot out. LOL Khaldor with these movie references all the time.
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
May 24 2012 12:57 GMT
#1195
On May 24 2012 21:56 MrCash wrote:
Can't MC and SEED both lose and then the 3 way tie would still be in place?


No, they played each other and MC won
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
May 24 2012 12:58 GMT
#1196
On May 24 2012 21:56 KristofferAG wrote:
Balls to it, I'll just wait for the VODs to go up. Linux sucks.

Eh, I've been watching GSL on Linux for ever. Gomstreamer works perfectly.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
May 24 2012 12:58 GMT
#1197
On May 24 2012 21:56 MrCash wrote:
Can't MC and SEED both lose and then the 3 way tie would still be in place?

If Zenio also loses, yes.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
May 24 2012 12:59 GMT
#1198
Guess I'll have to re-watch Gattaca. Thought it was complete garbage when I first saw it.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
May 24 2012 12:59 GMT
#1199
On May 24 2012 21:56 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 21:55 SkullZ9 wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:
On May 24 2012 21:51 tree.hugger wrote:
T_T Tree. And can't all these guys get in? Let's kick someone else out of Code S.


I like this idea, let all 3 in and kick out Line :D


I'm not sure Zenio would have won a group with Polt and Jjakji in it


Yeah but Line got a walkover in round 1 then lost 0-2 to MMA, then cheesed his way to Code S without winning a single game in bo3 series' -_-


Meaning he is more deserving of being in code S than the people who lost to said cheese. It's very simple.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
May 24 2012 12:59 GMT
#1200
On May 24 2012 21:51 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 21:50 LeLfe wrote:
the 3 of them play a Terran that is already eliminated, don't see any of them losing, so most likely going for a 3way tie


I wouldn't count any of them out.

Virus could beat Seed.
Hack could beat Zenio.
MC could screw up against Tree.

The fact that MC has to screw up against Tree is such a good indicator of how Tree's played tonight.


Really hoping to see Seed and MC through. ^^
Long live the King of Wings
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