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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 16 2012 05:26 GMT
#121
man i love these fanboy wars
mkp forveverrrrrrrr
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TL+ Member
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
May 16 2012 05:27 GMT
#122
Just skimming through whatever you people are yelling at eachother about and wanted to say if you don't have a fucking argument don't bring up a player's irrelevant past. Such a winning championships a year ago = best currently.

kk thanks continue your pointless yelling
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 05:29:56
May 16 2012 05:28 GMT
#123
On May 16 2012 14:27 Hall0wed wrote:
Just skimming through whatever you people are yelling at eachother about and wanted to say if you don't have a fucking argument don't bring up a player's irrelevant past. Such a winning championships a year ago = best currently.

kk thanks continue your pointless yelling

OMG losing to Code A opponent that another Terran beat = BEST TERRAN PLAYER IN THE WORLD
compared to getting to the grand finals of another GSL...yeah who's the best currently?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
May 16 2012 05:28 GMT
#124
On May 16 2012 14:22 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 14:15 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 14:11 Whatson wrote:
On May 16 2012 14:07 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 13:59 Whatson wrote:
On May 16 2012 13:08 opterown wrote:
Poll: best terran in the world atm?

mkp (35)
 
38%

mvp (22)
 
24%

mma (18)
 
19%

alive (11)
 
12%

other (5)
 
5%

taeja (2)
 
2%

93 total votes

Your vote: best terran in the world atm?

(Vote): alive
(Vote): taeja
(Vote): mkp
(Vote): mma
(Vote): mvp
(Vote): other



offtopic whoooo

Why in the fuck is alive even in this conversation right now.
It's still MVP, until another Terran can win 3 GSLs and get to 5 finals appearances, it'll always be MVP.


cause IPL4 was the hardest international tournament in history up to date.

no one said that MVP wasnt the most accomplished player, but you should also respect other people efforts.

"International"
Unfortunately for him, losing in the GSL (and losing to the same Zerg that MVP beat I might add) in Code A doesn't support the "best Terran player in the world right now" argument.


Well then, besides MVP, MMA and MKP.

Who else is more accomplished or better Terran than aLive?

Oh well, guess you would be more satisfied, having a poll only including 3 players then...

What a boring SC2 world that must be.

Nobody besides those 3, and perhaps TaeJa (based purely on all the ESV Weeklies he's won against formidable competition and Ro8, but that's kind of a stretch). I wouldn't really mind actually, i just think it's hilarious that you would put a Code A player in the "best terran player in the world" poll. it doesn't add up logically lol. Now where did i say it was exciting? You're asking for the best Terran in the world right now, but it also happens that those are 3 of the more exciting players to watch.


Yo, wait a minute.

aLive got Code S round of 8 pretty much any other season, including a Top 4 finish.

Never dropped to Code A until recently, and then having great luck by meeting his arch rival Leenock. Lets wait for the Up and Down matches until you clasify him as "Code A Terran"

Because thats not gonna happen.

And TaeJas weekly ESV arent up on par with a IPL4 title. Sorry to destroy your Liquid fanboyism.
Flash
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 05:36:15
May 16 2012 05:32 GMT
#125
On May 16 2012 14:28 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 14:22 Whatson wrote:
On May 16 2012 14:15 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 14:11 Whatson wrote:
On May 16 2012 14:07 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 13:59 Whatson wrote:
On May 16 2012 13:08 opterown wrote:
Poll: best terran in the world atm?

mkp (35)
 
38%

mvp (22)
 
24%

mma (18)
 
19%

alive (11)
 
12%

other (5)
 
5%

taeja (2)
 
2%

93 total votes

Your vote: best terran in the world atm?

(Vote): alive
(Vote): taeja
(Vote): mkp
(Vote): mma
(Vote): mvp
(Vote): other



offtopic whoooo

Why in the fuck is alive even in this conversation right now.
It's still MVP, until another Terran can win 3 GSLs and get to 5 finals appearances, it'll always be MVP.


cause IPL4 was the hardest international tournament in history up to date.

no one said that MVP wasnt the most accomplished player, but you should also respect other people efforts.

"International"
Unfortunately for him, losing in the GSL (and losing to the same Zerg that MVP beat I might add) in Code A doesn't support the "best Terran player in the world right now" argument.


Well then, besides MVP, MMA and MKP.

Who else is more accomplished or better Terran than aLive?

Oh well, guess you would be more satisfied, having a poll only including 3 players then...

What a boring SC2 world that must be.

Nobody besides those 3, and perhaps TaeJa (based purely on all the ESV Weeklies he's won against formidable competition and Ro8, but that's kind of a stretch). I wouldn't really mind actually, i just think it's hilarious that you would put a Code A player in the "best terran player in the world" poll. it doesn't add up logically lol. Now where did i say it was exciting? You're asking for the best Terran in the world right now, but it also happens that those are 3 of the more exciting players to watch.


Yo, wait a minute.

aLive got Code S round of 8 pretty much any other season, including a Top 4 finish.

Never dropped to Code A until recently, and then having great luck by meeting his arch rival Leenock. Lets wait for the Up and Down matches until you clasify him as "Code A Terran"

Because thats not gonna happen.

And TaeJas weekly ESV arent up on par with a IPL4 title. Sorry to destroy your Liquid fanboyism.

Excuse me I'm an MMA fan, look up some of my previous posts before throwing that in LOL
Liquid fanboyism...SMH
You asked for "currently" didn't you? Now, who sent Leenock down into Code A? MVP. Who went through the best PvTer out there currently to get to another grand finals? MVP. Who did Alive lose to in Code A? Leenock. I don't even have to mention (but i will) Alive's losses vs July and Zenio, and how MVP went through July too.
I rest my case, you can PM me if you want further debate in the morning since I don't like spamming other people like this.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 16 2012 05:36 GMT
#126
nyahhh mkp #1
seriously, the is the dude who trades series with drg, where drg is the best zerg, with the best zvt, and mkp saying that tvz is his worst matchup yo. what does that tell you?
mkp herpderp does make me very sad on certain days though
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 05:46:07
May 16 2012 05:45 GMT
#127
On May 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:
nyahhh mkp #1
seriously, the is the dude who trades series with drg, where drg is the best zerg, with the best zvt, and mkp saying that tvz is his worst matchup yo. what does that tell you?
mkp herpderp does make me very sad on certain days though


TvZ isnt his worst MU, its TvT

MMA, MVP and aLive all have better recent results than him in TvT

I actually think MKP has the 2nd strongest TvZ, Top 2 or 3 TvP as well. TvT is Top 5 tho, TaeJa is up with him there.
Flash
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 16 2012 05:51 GMT
#128
On May 16 2012 14:45 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:
nyahhh mkp #1
seriously, the is the dude who trades series with drg, where drg is the best zerg, with the best zvt, and mkp saying that tvz is his worst matchup yo. what does that tell you?
mkp herpderp does make me very sad on certain days though


TvZ isnt his worst MU, its TvT

MMA, MVP and aLive all have better recent results than him in TvT

I actually think MKP has the 2nd strongest TvZ, Top 2 or 3 TvP as well. TvT is Top 5 tho, TaeJa is up with him there.


he says himself that tvz is his worst matchup. i'd trust that

i agree that mkp top 2 tvz, but hey... it's his worst matchup. top1 tvt and top1 tvp
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
May 16 2012 05:55 GMT
#129
On May 16 2012 14:51 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 14:45 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:
nyahhh mkp #1
seriously, the is the dude who trades series with drg, where drg is the best zerg, with the best zvt, and mkp saying that tvz is his worst matchup yo. what does that tell you?
mkp herpderp does make me very sad on certain days though


TvZ isnt his worst MU, its TvT

MMA, MVP and aLive all have better recent results than him in TvT

I actually think MKP has the 2nd strongest TvZ, Top 2 or 3 TvP as well. TvT is Top 5 tho, TaeJa is up with him there.


he says himself that tvz is his worst matchup. i'd trust that

i agree that mkp top 2 tvz, but hey... it's his worst matchup. top1 tvt and top1 tvp


Iam out of this thread. Too much fanboyism here.

gz fnatic, they can win the EG Masters.
Flash
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
May 16 2012 07:03 GMT
#130
Fairly predictable results, Kas getting crushed is no surprise.

Guess I'll have to check Happy's ghost play out though
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
May 16 2012 16:04 GMT
#131
This thread is pathetic.

Grats to Fnatic, sick games. <3
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
yoigen
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany369 Posts
May 16 2012 16:45 GMT
#132
On May 16 2012 14:20 brokenLoL wrote:
Woah when did Happy leave IM? I didn't see anything.


EmpireHappy isn't the same guy as IMHappy.
Today I didn't even have to use my AK, I gotta say it was a good day.
Zalitara
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway361 Posts
May 16 2012 20:15 GMT
#133
Why is Empire in front of Fnatic on the MCSL website when they have the same points, the same amount of losses and Fnatic beat Empire?
Live to win
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
May 16 2012 20:29 GMT
#134
its not up to date i guess.

here an updated ranking

http://www.readmore.de/index.php?cont=show_groupstage&id=234&coverage=654
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