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EMPaThy789
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand878 Posts
May 16 2012 03:36 GMT
#81
nightend built no observers after losing his army. if he did, i think he could have crushed that army which had like 6 vikings with the 4 colossuses he had
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 16 2012 03:37 GMT
#82
On May 16 2012 12:06 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 11:53 Bagration wrote:
On May 16 2012 10:58 ZeroSC2 wrote:
imo fnatic with Oz could be the only team to beat SlayerS. Are the best 4 teams going into playoffs?


Not sure if Oz could do it alone though. Last time Slayers 4-0ed Fnatic, and they held back MMA. I don't think Fnatic has quite the depth as Slayers. They fall off very quickly after aLive and Oz. If Slayers fields the A-lineup in the finals, I don't think any team has a good chance against them

+ Show Spoiler +
Obviously I'm not the most objective opinion on this matter though...


well Oz and aLive both beat MMA before, so they shown they are capable to do it.

Then you got Puzzle and CoCa who are both weaker than Oz and aLive, even ByuL has a chance.

Imo SlayerS lost a lot of Depth losing TaeJa and GanZi.


Fanboys are never the best analysts, as they love hyping their favorites, and I admit I fall under this category. :p
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
May 16 2012 03:38 GMT
#83
On May 16 2012 12:35 openbox1 wrote:
wow... Just speechless.
First time I've seen a Toss lose with that kind of a lead. Mass ghost the new Terran end-game?
But it looked so micro-intensive...


New?... -.-

So excited for next game! Oz vs Violet! woot, hope that's gonna be a good series!
IMMoonLight
Profile Joined April 2012
Korea (South)332 Posts
May 16 2012 03:38 GMT
#84
On May 16 2012 12:02 NoGasfOu wrote:
NightEnd has 60% winrate in KR server. Happy stands no chance.

My prediction is right.....Happy is better than Nightend..
iAmBiGbiRd
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia1029 Posts
May 16 2012 03:38 GMT
#85
On May 16 2012 12:32 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 12:19 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:16 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:02 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:57 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:51 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:42 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:29 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 05:10 dragonborn wrote:
kas > byul
alive < beastyqt
nightend < happy
oz > violet

ace match: alive 0 kas 2


someone just cant give credit to a worldclass Terran ))

world class code A player.

i guess he will drop to code B pretty soon.


You have Empire down as 3-1, which is already wrong, butwhy do you have scores for an ace other than to show your displeasure at aLive's skill??

displeasure his skills?

not really, being a world class A player is really hard at this time.


You had him down as losing to both Kas and Beasty without winning a map and said he will drop to Code B soon.....you do realise he won IPL4 which was practically Code S but crammed onto one weekend right??

so you are saying losing to beasty&kas shameful?

"IPL4 which was practically Code S" NO.


you are right, IPL4 actually was harder than Code S.

No time to practice for upcoming opponents, basically all Code S players to play each other in one weekend.

Damn Squirtle 2nd place and now Code S finals against MVP.

You are just a aLive hater, admit it.

thats why aLive won IPL4.He had +3 hours rest meanwhile squirtle&co playing on losers bracket.Still a well deserved win.

im not saying he is bad or something like that, but he is pretty weak compared to other code S players.

good TvTer, okay TvPer, weak TvZer.


"Thats why he won" ROFLMAO you sir are funny. He didn't win because he beat Polt, MKP, Nestea, Squirtle, GanZi, PartinG and TAiLS he won because he had a 3 hour break before the finals. Please just stop and go away
Hello friends:)
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
May 16 2012 03:39 GMT
#86
On May 16 2012 12:35 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 12:35 KalWarkov wrote:
see this shit?

build 20+ ghosts, protoss CANT WIN a lategame fight.

terrans better complain more - this lategame comp is known for 2 months now and no1 plays it STILL.



Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 12:35 Daniel C wrote:
inb4 ghost OP :D

Too slow!


i didnt say they are OP at all, i just said most terrans are too stupid to build more then 6 of them while they have everything they need - but they keep remaxing on mm.

they arent OP because the toss has a timing before the T can have this amount of ghosts. in case they turtle heavily on 3 base and build that mass ghost/medivac/viking army with just few mms, you win by economy and warpgate power.


Im just facepalming everytime someone says "PvT lategame imbalacned, P so OP", even demuslim says it... i dont get it - dont they ever watch games? Happy won with that lategame comp against creator and every fucking EU toss 2 months ago. there is like 1 person who adopted it (Type.DBS) who isnt acutally on that lvl yet.

Quoting axlav on the "once they have 20+ ghosts you cant win a fight anymore, you rely on reinforcements and economy"
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
May 16 2012 03:40 GMT
#87
On May 16 2012 12:36 mR.bONG789 wrote:
nightend built no observers after losing his army. if he did, i think he could have crushed that army which had like 6 vikings with the 4 colossuses he had



true, he had enough lead to win even against that army happy had. happy didnt have enough vikings to make all observers disappear with 2-3 scans all over the place - especially with happy not having more than 2 orbitals.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
EGazael
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada13 Posts
May 16 2012 03:41 GMT
#88
That was such a crazy game from Happy O_O
iAmBiGbiRd
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia1029 Posts
May 16 2012 03:42 GMT
#89
I agree with KalWarkov. The amount of times i was in threads with Terrans going "Fucking Protoss bullshit blah blah blah" and told them to watch Happy's late game TvP. I was shut down every. Single. Time. Now people finally take notice, funny that
Hello friends:)
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 03:46:28
May 16 2012 03:44 GMT
#90
On May 16 2012 12:32 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 12:19 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:16 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:02 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:57 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:51 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:42 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:29 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 05:10 dragonborn wrote:
kas > byul
alive < beastyqt
nightend < happy
oz > violet

ace match: alive 0 kas 2


someone just cant give credit to a worldclass Terran ))

world class code A player.

i guess he will drop to code B pretty soon.


You have Empire down as 3-1, which is already wrong, butwhy do you have scores for an ace other than to show your displeasure at aLive's skill??

displeasure his skills?

not really, being a world class A player is really hard at this time.


You had him down as losing to both Kas and Beasty without winning a map and said he will drop to Code B soon.....you do realise he won IPL4 which was practically Code S but crammed onto one weekend right??

so you are saying losing to beasty&kas shameful?

"IPL4 which was practically Code S" NO.


you are right, IPL4 actually was harder than Code S.

No time to practice for upcoming opponents, basically all Code S players to play each other in one weekend.

Damn Squirtle 2nd place and now Code S finals against MVP.

You are just a aLive hater, admit it.

thats why aLive won IPL4.He had +3 hours rest meanwhile squirtle&co playing on losers bracket.Still a well deserved win.

im not saying he is bad or something like that, but he is pretty weak compared to other code S players.

good TvTer, okay TvPer, weak TvZer.


He could beat MVP in Code S finals, while Squirtle wont be able to prevend MVP from his 4th GSL title.

worlds best TvT with MMA, Top 2 TvP (recent wins MC, PartinG, Squirtle etc), TvZ not weak but weakness right now, still Code S average.

Btw Leenock is aLives arch rival, he already lost against him in Code S round of 8.

Now GOOOOO OZ
Flash
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 16 2012 03:44 GMT
#91
On May 16 2012 12:38 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 12:32 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:19 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:16 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:02 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:57 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:51 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:42 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:29 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 05:10 dragonborn wrote:
kas > byul
alive < beastyqt
nightend < happy
oz > violet

ace match: alive 0 kas 2


someone just cant give credit to a worldclass Terran ))

world class code A player.

i guess he will drop to code B pretty soon.


You have Empire down as 3-1, which is already wrong, butwhy do you have scores for an ace other than to show your displeasure at aLive's skill??

displeasure his skills?

not really, being a world class A player is really hard at this time.


You had him down as losing to both Kas and Beasty without winning a map and said he will drop to Code B soon.....you do realise he won IPL4 which was practically Code S but crammed onto one weekend right??

so you are saying losing to beasty&kas shameful?

"IPL4 which was practically Code S" NO.


you are right, IPL4 actually was harder than Code S.

No time to practice for upcoming opponents, basically all Code S players to play each other in one weekend.

Damn Squirtle 2nd place and now Code S finals against MVP.

You are just a aLive hater, admit it.

thats why aLive won IPL4.He had +3 hours rest meanwhile squirtle&co playing on losers bracket.Still a well deserved win.

im not saying he is bad or something like that, but he is pretty weak compared to other code S players.

good TvTer, okay TvPer, weak TvZer.


"Thats why he won" ROFLMAO you sir are funny. He didn't win because he beat Polt, MKP, Nestea, Squirtle, GanZi, PartinG and TAiLS he won because he had a 3 hour break before the finals. Please just stop and go away

you sir are a fanboy

did you see "well deserved win" in my post?

i was talking about winners bracket final&grand final.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 03:52:18
May 16 2012 03:51 GMT
#92
+2 against 0/0 .. this could be messy

Nevermind Oz really failed those forcefields
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
May 16 2012 03:53 GMT
#93
On May 16 2012 12:51 bkrow wrote:
+2 against 0/0 .. this could be messy

Nevermind Oz really failed those forcefields


and his blinkmicro.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
May 16 2012 03:53 GMT
#94
Lag forcefields killing Oz's army there.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 16 2012 03:54 GMT
#95
On May 16 2012 12:44 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 12:32 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:19 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:16 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:02 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:57 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:51 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:42 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:29 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 05:10 dragonborn wrote:
kas > byul
alive < beastyqt
nightend < happy
oz > violet

ace match: alive 0 kas 2


someone just cant give credit to a worldclass Terran ))

world class code A player.

i guess he will drop to code B pretty soon.


You have Empire down as 3-1, which is already wrong, butwhy do you have scores for an ace other than to show your displeasure at aLive's skill??

displeasure his skills?

not really, being a world class A player is really hard at this time.


You had him down as losing to both Kas and Beasty without winning a map and said he will drop to Code B soon.....you do realise he won IPL4 which was practically Code S but crammed onto one weekend right??

so you are saying losing to beasty&kas shameful?

"IPL4 which was practically Code S" NO.


you are right, IPL4 actually was harder than Code S.

No time to practice for upcoming opponents, basically all Code S players to play each other in one weekend.

Damn Squirtle 2nd place and now Code S finals against MVP.

You are just a aLive hater, admit it.

thats why aLive won IPL4.He had +3 hours rest meanwhile squirtle&co playing on losers bracket.Still a well deserved win.

im not saying he is bad or something like that, but he is pretty weak compared to other code S players.

good TvTer, okay TvPer, weak TvZer.


He could beat MVP in Code S finals, while Squirtle wont be able to prevend MVP from his 4th GSL title.

worlds best TvT with MMA, Top 2 TvP (recent wins MC, PartinG, Squirtle etc), TvZ not weak but weakness right now, still Code S average.

Btw Leenock is aLives arch rival, he already lost against him in Code S round of 8.

Now GOOOOO OZ


who has the longest TvT undefeated streak in korea?
... yup, that's right. marineking does
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=959&part=games&vs=T&league=any&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=10&from_day=19&to_year=2012&to_month=5&to_day=5&action=Update
plus mkp are both positive h2h with mma and alive this year. and is still probably undisputed #1 tvp. you overrate alive
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 04:01:10
May 16 2012 04:00 GMT
#96
On May 16 2012 12:54 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 12:44 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:32 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:19 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:16 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:02 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:57 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:51 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:42 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:29 ZeroSC2 wrote:
[quote]

someone just cant give credit to a worldclass Terran ))

world class code A player.

i guess he will drop to code B pretty soon.


You have Empire down as 3-1, which is already wrong, butwhy do you have scores for an ace other than to show your displeasure at aLive's skill??

displeasure his skills?

not really, being a world class A player is really hard at this time.


You had him down as losing to both Kas and Beasty without winning a map and said he will drop to Code B soon.....you do realise he won IPL4 which was practically Code S but crammed onto one weekend right??

so you are saying losing to beasty&kas shameful?

"IPL4 which was practically Code S" NO.


you are right, IPL4 actually was harder than Code S.

No time to practice for upcoming opponents, basically all Code S players to play each other in one weekend.

Damn Squirtle 2nd place and now Code S finals against MVP.

You are just a aLive hater, admit it.

thats why aLive won IPL4.He had +3 hours rest meanwhile squirtle&co playing on losers bracket.Still a well deserved win.

im not saying he is bad or something like that, but he is pretty weak compared to other code S players.

good TvTer, okay TvPer, weak TvZer.


He could beat MVP in Code S finals, while Squirtle wont be able to prevend MVP from his 4th GSL title.

worlds best TvT with MMA, Top 2 TvP (recent wins MC, PartinG, Squirtle etc), TvZ not weak but weakness right now, still Code S average.

Btw Leenock is aLives arch rival, he already lost against him in Code S round of 8.

Now GOOOOO OZ


who has the longest TvT undefeated streak in korea?
... yup, that's right. marineking does
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=959&part=games&vs=T&league=any&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=10&from_day=19&to_year=2012&to_month=5&to_day=5&action=Update
plus mkp are both positive h2h with mma and alive this year. and is still probably undisputed #1 tvp. you overrate alive


Yippee! A fanboy fight to the death over the better Terran! MMA fan reporting!

First some ground rules:
1. No ad hominem attacks
2. No clawing of the face or hair
3. Let's do this!

MMA: 2 time GSL champion and 2 time GSTL MVP. Checkmate :p

MVP is the most accomplished and best Terran right now, simply because he is in the finals again and has only failed to reach the semifinals or higher of the GSL once since GSL July. Even a biased guy like myself cannot deny that.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
May 16 2012 04:01 GMT
#97
On May 16 2012 12:54 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 12:44 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:32 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:19 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:16 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:02 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:57 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:51 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:42 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:29 ZeroSC2 wrote:
[quote]

someone just cant give credit to a worldclass Terran ))

world class code A player.

i guess he will drop to code B pretty soon.


You have Empire down as 3-1, which is already wrong, butwhy do you have scores for an ace other than to show your displeasure at aLive's skill??

displeasure his skills?

not really, being a world class A player is really hard at this time.


You had him down as losing to both Kas and Beasty without winning a map and said he will drop to Code B soon.....you do realise he won IPL4 which was practically Code S but crammed onto one weekend right??

so you are saying losing to beasty&kas shameful?

"IPL4 which was practically Code S" NO.


you are right, IPL4 actually was harder than Code S.

No time to practice for upcoming opponents, basically all Code S players to play each other in one weekend.

Damn Squirtle 2nd place and now Code S finals against MVP.

You are just a aLive hater, admit it.

thats why aLive won IPL4.He had +3 hours rest meanwhile squirtle&co playing on losers bracket.Still a well deserved win.

im not saying he is bad or something like that, but he is pretty weak compared to other code S players.

good TvTer, okay TvPer, weak TvZer.


He could beat MVP in Code S finals, while Squirtle wont be able to prevend MVP from his 4th GSL title.

worlds best TvT with MMA, Top 2 TvP (recent wins MC, PartinG, Squirtle etc), TvZ not weak but weakness right now, still Code S average.

Btw Leenock is aLives arch rival, he already lost against him in Code S round of 8.

Now GOOOOO OZ


who has the longest TvT undefeated streak in korea?
... yup, that's right. marineking does
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=959&part=games&vs=T&league=any&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=10&from_day=19&to_year=2012&to_month=5&to_day=5&action=Update
plus mkp are both positive h2h with mma and alive this year. and is still probably undisputed #1 tvp. you overrate alive

Doesn't matter what streak you have, 4 trophies > 0 trophy.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
May 16 2012 04:02 GMT
#98
On May 16 2012 13:00 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 12:54 opterown wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:44 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:32 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:19 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:16 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:02 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:57 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:51 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:42 dragonborn wrote:
[quote]
world class code A player.

i guess he will drop to code B pretty soon.


You have Empire down as 3-1, which is already wrong, butwhy do you have scores for an ace other than to show your displeasure at aLive's skill??

displeasure his skills?

not really, being a world class A player is really hard at this time.


You had him down as losing to both Kas and Beasty without winning a map and said he will drop to Code B soon.....you do realise he won IPL4 which was practically Code S but crammed onto one weekend right??

so you are saying losing to beasty&kas shameful?

"IPL4 which was practically Code S" NO.


you are right, IPL4 actually was harder than Code S.

No time to practice for upcoming opponents, basically all Code S players to play each other in one weekend.

Damn Squirtle 2nd place and now Code S finals against MVP.

You are just a aLive hater, admit it.

thats why aLive won IPL4.He had +3 hours rest meanwhile squirtle&co playing on losers bracket.Still a well deserved win.

im not saying he is bad or something like that, but he is pretty weak compared to other code S players.

good TvTer, okay TvPer, weak TvZer.


He could beat MVP in Code S finals, while Squirtle wont be able to prevend MVP from his 4th GSL title.

worlds best TvT with MMA, Top 2 TvP (recent wins MC, PartinG, Squirtle etc), TvZ not weak but weakness right now, still Code S average.

Btw Leenock is aLives arch rival, he already lost against him in Code S round of 8.

Now GOOOOO OZ


who has the longest TvT undefeated streak in korea?
... yup, that's right. marineking does
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=959&part=games&vs=T&league=any&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=10&from_day=19&to_year=2012&to_month=5&to_day=5&action=Update
plus mkp are both positive h2h with mma and alive this year. and is still probably undisputed #1 tvp. you overrate alive


Yippee! A fanboy fight to the death over the better Terran! MMA fan reporting!

First some ground rules:
1. No ad hominem attacks
2. No clawing of the face or hair
3. Let's do this!

MMA: 2 time GSL champion and 2 time GSTL MVP. Checkmate :p

MVP is the most accomplished and best Terran right now, simply because he is in the finals again and has only failed to reach the semifinals or higher of the GSL once since GSL July. Even a biased guy like myself cannot deny that.


You need to improve your bias if you want to call yourself a fanboy again. MMA #1 ALWAYS! Flash is going to get owned so hard.
MMA: The true King of Wings
iAmBiGbiRd
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia1029 Posts
May 16 2012 04:03 GMT
#99
On May 16 2012 12:44 dragonborn wrote:
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On May 16 2012 12:38 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:32 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:19 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:16 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:02 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:57 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:51 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:42 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:29 ZeroSC2 wrote:
[quote]

someone just cant give credit to a worldclass Terran ))

world class code A player.

i guess he will drop to code B pretty soon.


You have Empire down as 3-1, which is already wrong, butwhy do you have scores for an ace other than to show your displeasure at aLive's skill??

displeasure his skills?

not really, being a world class A player is really hard at this time.


You had him down as losing to both Kas and Beasty without winning a map and said he will drop to Code B soon.....you do realise he won IPL4 which was practically Code S but crammed onto one weekend right??

so you are saying losing to beasty&kas shameful?

"IPL4 which was practically Code S" NO.


you are right, IPL4 actually was harder than Code S.

No time to practice for upcoming opponents, basically all Code S players to play each other in one weekend.

Damn Squirtle 2nd place and now Code S finals against MVP.

You are just a aLive hater, admit it.

thats why aLive won IPL4.He had +3 hours rest meanwhile squirtle&co playing on losers bracket.Still a well deserved win.

im not saying he is bad or something like that, but he is pretty weak compared to other code S players.

good TvTer, okay TvPer, weak TvZer.


"Thats why he won" ROFLMAO you sir are funny. He didn't win because he beat Polt, MKP, Nestea, Squirtle, GanZi, PartinG and TAiLS he won because he had a 3 hour break before the finals. Please just stop and go away

you sir are a fanboy

did you see "well deserved win" in my post?

i was talking about winners bracket final&grand final.


Actually i am not even an aLive fan at all, i can admit that he is good and not downplay his wins. Also you contradict yourself every sentence you write. He only won IPL4 because he had 3+ hours of rest (Which he actually did not have) waiting for THE FINAL so he was already top 2 at least against the rest of Code S.

I'm done trying to talk to you, complete waste of time
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 16 2012 04:05 GMT
#100
On May 16 2012 13:00 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 12:54 opterown wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:44 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:32 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:19 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:16 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:02 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:57 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:51 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:42 dragonborn wrote:
[quote]
world class code A player.

i guess he will drop to code B pretty soon.


You have Empire down as 3-1, which is already wrong, butwhy do you have scores for an ace other than to show your displeasure at aLive's skill??

displeasure his skills?

not really, being a world class A player is really hard at this time.


You had him down as losing to both Kas and Beasty without winning a map and said he will drop to Code B soon.....you do realise he won IPL4 which was practically Code S but crammed onto one weekend right??

so you are saying losing to beasty&kas shameful?

"IPL4 which was practically Code S" NO.


you are right, IPL4 actually was harder than Code S.

No time to practice for upcoming opponents, basically all Code S players to play each other in one weekend.

Damn Squirtle 2nd place and now Code S finals against MVP.

You are just a aLive hater, admit it.

thats why aLive won IPL4.He had +3 hours rest meanwhile squirtle&co playing on losers bracket.Still a well deserved win.

im not saying he is bad or something like that, but he is pretty weak compared to other code S players.

good TvTer, okay TvPer, weak TvZer.


He could beat MVP in Code S finals, while Squirtle wont be able to prevend MVP from his 4th GSL title.

worlds best TvT with MMA, Top 2 TvP (recent wins MC, PartinG, Squirtle etc), TvZ not weak but weakness right now, still Code S average.

Btw Leenock is aLives arch rival, he already lost against him in Code S round of 8.

Now GOOOOO OZ


who has the longest TvT undefeated streak in korea?
... yup, that's right. marineking does
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=959&part=games&vs=T&league=any&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=10&from_day=19&to_year=2012&to_month=5&to_day=5&action=Update
plus mkp are both positive h2h with mma and alive this year. and is still probably undisputed #1 tvp. you overrate alive


Yippee! A fanboy fight to the death over the better Terran! MMA fan reporting!

First some ground rules:
1. No ad hominem attacks
2. No clawing of the face or hair
3. Let's do this!

MMA: 2 time GSL champion and 2 time GSTL MVP. Checkmate :p

MVP is the most accomplished and best Terran right now, simply because he is in the finals again and has only failed to reach the semifinals or higher of the GSL once since GSL July. Even a biased guy like myself cannot deny that.


yay fanfight i liek :D

mkp is the most recent GSTL MVP - going 11-1 in games
MMA's achievements that you listed were last year I mentioned this years' games, which are more relevant. MKP is doing much better than MMA is this year, almost everyone would agree [other than some herp days like GSL Ro16]

MVP is the top terran right now by virtue of his 5th finals :D
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