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ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
May 16 2012 04:06 GMT
#101
On May 16 2012 13:00 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 12:54 opterown wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:44 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:32 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:19 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:16 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:02 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:57 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:51 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:42 dragonborn wrote:
[quote]
world class code A player.

i guess he will drop to code B pretty soon.


You have Empire down as 3-1, which is already wrong, butwhy do you have scores for an ace other than to show your displeasure at aLive's skill??

displeasure his skills?

not really, being a world class A player is really hard at this time.


You had him down as losing to both Kas and Beasty without winning a map and said he will drop to Code B soon.....you do realise he won IPL4 which was practically Code S but crammed onto one weekend right??

so you are saying losing to beasty&kas shameful?

"IPL4 which was practically Code S" NO.


you are right, IPL4 actually was harder than Code S.

No time to practice for upcoming opponents, basically all Code S players to play each other in one weekend.

Damn Squirtle 2nd place and now Code S finals against MVP.

You are just a aLive hater, admit it.

thats why aLive won IPL4.He had +3 hours rest meanwhile squirtle&co playing on losers bracket.Still a well deserved win.

im not saying he is bad or something like that, but he is pretty weak compared to other code S players.

good TvTer, okay TvPer, weak TvZer.


He could beat MVP in Code S finals, while Squirtle wont be able to prevend MVP from his 4th GSL title.

worlds best TvT with MMA, Top 2 TvP (recent wins MC, PartinG, Squirtle etc), TvZ not weak but weakness right now, still Code S average.

Btw Leenock is aLives arch rival, he already lost against him in Code S round of 8.

Now GOOOOO OZ


who has the longest TvT undefeated streak in korea?
... yup, that's right. marineking does
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=959&part=games&vs=T&league=any&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=10&from_day=19&to_year=2012&to_month=5&to_day=5&action=Update
plus mkp are both positive h2h with mma and alive this year. and is still probably undisputed #1 tvp. you overrate alive


Yippee! A fanboy fight to the death over the better Terran! MMA fan reporting!

First some ground rules:
1. No ad hominem attacks
2. No clawing of the face or hair
3. Let's do this!

MMA: 2 time GSL champion and 2 time GSTL MVP. Checkmate :p

MVP is the most accomplished and best Terran right now, simply because he is in the finals again and has only failed to reach the semifinals or higher of the GSL once since GSL July. Even a biased guy like myself cannot deny that.


Not saying aLive is the best Terran, but hes far from Code A material like Dragonborn trys to say.

Imo its always close between MMA, MVP, MKP and aLive.
Flash
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 16 2012 04:07 GMT
#102
Would be sick for empire to take this to the ace match. GOGOGO EMPIRE!
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 04:08:23
May 16 2012 04:08 GMT
#103
Poll: best terran in the world atm?

mkp (35)
 
38%

mvp (22)
 
24%

mma (18)
 
19%

alive (11)
 
12%

other (5)
 
5%

taeja (2)
 
2%

93 total votes

Your vote: best terran in the world atm?

(Vote): alive
(Vote): taeja
(Vote): mkp
(Vote): mma
(Vote): mvp
(Vote): other



offtopic whoooo
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
May 16 2012 04:17 GMT
#104
such an odd game for Violent. Felt like he was throwing the game. Maybe he felt that he was way more behind than he actually was.
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
May 16 2012 04:18 GMT
#105
thats a popularity voting.

when we talk achievements, just look at SC2earnings.com

If we talk most recent stuff, MKP isnt best, he dropped to Code A as well, and MMA and aLive won the recent tournaments.

MVP will probably become best again if he wins Code S.....its always changing each couple of weeks...
Flash
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
May 16 2012 04:23 GMT
#106
On May 16 2012 13:08 opterown wrote:
Poll: best terran in the world atm?

mkp (35)
 
38%

mvp (22)
 
24%

mma (18)
 
19%

alive (11)
 
12%

other (5)
 
5%

taeja (2)
 
2%

93 total votes

Your vote: best terran in the world atm?

(Vote): alive
(Vote): taeja
(Vote): mkp
(Vote): mma
(Vote): mvp
(Vote): other



offtopic whoooo

Winning a lot of ezpz foreign tounies recently, but always fails to get a GSL title when going back to Korea. More like best kong in the world.
Look at the real champ MVP! The 4th GSL title is 50% in his pocket already.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 04:32:46
May 16 2012 04:29 GMT
#107
sick FFs by OZ

gogo Fnatic !

really got a huge skillboost with that addition.
Flash
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
May 16 2012 04:29 GMT
#108
I don't understand why Violet is making nothing but roaches against an immortal/stalker/sentry army...
Lennient
Profile Joined January 2012
497 Posts
May 16 2012 04:31 GMT
#109
On May 16 2012 12:54 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 12:44 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:32 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:19 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:16 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 12:02 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:57 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:51 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:42 dragonborn wrote:
On May 16 2012 11:29 ZeroSC2 wrote:
[quote]

someone just cant give credit to a worldclass Terran ))

world class code A player.

i guess he will drop to code B pretty soon.


You have Empire down as 3-1, which is already wrong, butwhy do you have scores for an ace other than to show your displeasure at aLive's skill??

displeasure his skills?

not really, being a world class A player is really hard at this time.


You had him down as losing to both Kas and Beasty without winning a map and said he will drop to Code B soon.....you do realise he won IPL4 which was practically Code S but crammed onto one weekend right??

so you are saying losing to beasty&kas shameful?

"IPL4 which was practically Code S" NO.


you are right, IPL4 actually was harder than Code S.

No time to practice for upcoming opponents, basically all Code S players to play each other in one weekend.

Damn Squirtle 2nd place and now Code S finals against MVP.

You are just a aLive hater, admit it.

thats why aLive won IPL4.He had +3 hours rest meanwhile squirtle&co playing on losers bracket.Still a well deserved win.

im not saying he is bad or something like that, but he is pretty weak compared to other code S players.

good TvTer, okay TvPer, weak TvZer.


He could beat MVP in Code S finals, while Squirtle wont be able to prevend MVP from his 4th GSL title.

worlds best TvT with MMA, Top 2 TvP (recent wins MC, PartinG, Squirtle etc), TvZ not weak but weakness right now, still Code S average.

Btw Leenock is aLives arch rival, he already lost against him in Code S round of 8.

Now GOOOOO OZ


who has the longest TvT undefeated streak in korea?
... yup, that's right. marineking does
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=959&part=games&vs=T&league=any&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=10&from_day=19&to_year=2012&to_month=5&to_day=5&action=Update
plus mkp are both positive h2h with mma and alive this year. and is still probably undisputed #1 tvp. you overrate alive

MKP's tvp is overrated, Watch his games in Starwar vs Parting and you'll know its a joke, aLive is definitely better in that matchup.
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
May 16 2012 04:32 GMT
#110
throws away both games
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
May 16 2012 04:41 GMT
#111
Poll: Best Protoss in the world atm?

Squirtle (6)
 
67%

Oz (1)
 
11%

MC (1)
 
11%

HerO (1)
 
11%

PartinG (0)
 
0%

Other (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Best Protoss in the world atm?

(Vote): Squirtle
(Vote): PartinG
(Vote): Oz
(Vote): MC
(Vote): HerO
(Vote): Other



As a follow up to Best Terran.
Flash
BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
May 16 2012 04:50 GMT
#112
So what happened with Oz and Violet? Who won
Snute <3 Bomber <3 Parting <3 Life <3
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
May 16 2012 04:53 GMT
#113
Oz won 2-1

Flash
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
May 16 2012 04:57 GMT
#114
Happy is the true winner of today.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
May 16 2012 04:59 GMT
#115
On May 16 2012 13:08 opterown wrote:
Poll: best terran in the world atm?

mkp (35)
 
38%

mvp (22)
 
24%

mma (18)
 
19%

alive (11)
 
12%

other (5)
 
5%

taeja (2)
 
2%

93 total votes

Your vote: best terran in the world atm?

(Vote): alive
(Vote): taeja
(Vote): mkp
(Vote): mma
(Vote): mvp
(Vote): other



offtopic whoooo

Why in the fuck is alive even in this conversation right now.
It's still MVP, until another Terran can win 3 GSLs and get to 5 finals appearances, it'll always be MVP.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 05:18:10
May 16 2012 05:07 GMT
#116
On May 16 2012 13:59 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 13:08 opterown wrote:
Poll: best terran in the world atm?

mkp (35)
 
38%

mvp (22)
 
24%

mma (18)
 
19%

alive (11)
 
12%

other (5)
 
5%

taeja (2)
 
2%

93 total votes

Your vote: best terran in the world atm?

(Vote): alive
(Vote): taeja
(Vote): mkp
(Vote): mma
(Vote): mvp
(Vote): other



offtopic whoooo

Why in the fuck is alive even in this conversation right now.
It's still MVP, until another Terran can win 3 GSLs and get to 5 finals appearances, it'll always be MVP.


cause IPL4 was the hardest international tournament in history up to date.

no one said that MVP wasnt the most accomplished player, but you should also respect other people efforts.

edit. also MVP is more like a GSL Bonjwa. Pretty much the Opposite of MKP.
Flash
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 05:14:31
May 16 2012 05:11 GMT
#117
On May 16 2012 14:07 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 13:59 Whatson wrote:
On May 16 2012 13:08 opterown wrote:
Poll: best terran in the world atm?

mkp (35)
 
38%

mvp (22)
 
24%

mma (18)
 
19%

alive (11)
 
12%

other (5)
 
5%

taeja (2)
 
2%

93 total votes

Your vote: best terran in the world atm?

(Vote): alive
(Vote): taeja
(Vote): mkp
(Vote): mma
(Vote): mvp
(Vote): other



offtopic whoooo

Why in the fuck is alive even in this conversation right now.
It's still MVP, until another Terran can win 3 GSLs and get to 5 finals appearances, it'll always be MVP.


cause IPL4 was the hardest international tournament in history up to date.

no one said that MVP wasnt the most accomplished player, but you should also respect other people efforts.

"International"
Unfortunately for him, losing in the GSL (and losing to the same Zerg that MVP beat I might add) in Code A doesn't support the "best Terran player in the world right now" argument.
LOL I guess MLG, WCG, and Blizzcon don't count for "major" titles eh? Get real man...
¯\_(シ)_/¯
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 05:20:40
May 16 2012 05:15 GMT
#118
On May 16 2012 14:11 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 14:07 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 13:59 Whatson wrote:
On May 16 2012 13:08 opterown wrote:
Poll: best terran in the world atm?

mkp (35)
 
38%

mvp (22)
 
24%

mma (18)
 
19%

alive (11)
 
12%

other (5)
 
5%

taeja (2)
 
2%

93 total votes

Your vote: best terran in the world atm?

(Vote): alive
(Vote): taeja
(Vote): mkp
(Vote): mma
(Vote): mvp
(Vote): other



offtopic whoooo

Why in the fuck is alive even in this conversation right now.
It's still MVP, until another Terran can win 3 GSLs and get to 5 finals appearances, it'll always be MVP.


cause IPL4 was the hardest international tournament in history up to date.

no one said that MVP wasnt the most accomplished player, but you should also respect other people efforts.

"International"
Unfortunately for him, losing in the GSL (and losing to the same Zerg that MVP beat I might add) in Code A doesn't support the "best Terran player in the world right now" argument.


Well then, besides MVP, MMA and MKP.

Who else is more accomplished or better Terran than aLive?

Oh well, guess you would be more satisfied, having a poll only including 3 players then...

Lets remove all other Terrans from SC2 and only play MVP, MMA and MKP play matches all day, cause its cool to have 3 letter IDs.

The world of SC2 cant get more exciting than this ! ............
Flash
brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
May 16 2012 05:20 GMT
#119
Woah when did Happy leave IM? I didn't see anything.
Save me from myself
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 05:25:41
May 16 2012 05:22 GMT
#120
On May 16 2012 14:15 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2012 14:11 Whatson wrote:
On May 16 2012 14:07 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 16 2012 13:59 Whatson wrote:
On May 16 2012 13:08 opterown wrote:
Poll: best terran in the world atm?

mkp (35)
 
38%

mvp (22)
 
24%

mma (18)
 
19%

alive (11)
 
12%

other (5)
 
5%

taeja (2)
 
2%

93 total votes

Your vote: best terran in the world atm?

(Vote): alive
(Vote): taeja
(Vote): mkp
(Vote): mma
(Vote): mvp
(Vote): other



offtopic whoooo

Why in the fuck is alive even in this conversation right now.
It's still MVP, until another Terran can win 3 GSLs and get to 5 finals appearances, it'll always be MVP.


cause IPL4 was the hardest international tournament in history up to date.

no one said that MVP wasnt the most accomplished player, but you should also respect other people efforts.

"International"
Unfortunately for him, losing in the GSL (and losing to the same Zerg that MVP beat I might add) in Code A doesn't support the "best Terran player in the world right now" argument.


Well then, besides MVP, MMA and MKP.

Who else is more accomplished or better Terran than aLive?

Oh well, guess you would be more satisfied, having a poll only including 3 players then...

What a boring SC2 world that must be.

Nobody besides those 3, and perhaps TaeJa (based purely on all the ESV Weeklies he's won against formidable competition and Ro8, but that's kind of a stretch). I wouldn't really mind actually, i just think it's hilarious that you would put a Code A player in the "best terran player in the world" poll. it doesn't add up logically lol. Now where did i say it was exciting? You're asking for the best Terran in the world right now, but it also happens that those are 3 of the more exciting players to watch.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
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