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iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 10:49:08
May 19 2012 10:49 GMT
#4581
Finally, he is going charge again! GOGOO Squirtle, he´s back!
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
May 19 2012 10:49 GMT
#4582
charge! yes!
bisu
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
May 19 2012 10:49 GMT
#4583
On May 19 2012 19:45 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 19:43 Quotidian wrote:
On May 19 2012 19:35 roymarthyup wrote:
MVP would have won if he 1) stacked all his bc's and emp'ed them twice. one ghost can eliminate all energy from bc's

2) spread his bc's as hes going into combat


easy to do but he just didnt think of it. there isnt enough time in battle for BC's to yamato everything before feedback deals 200 damage to all of them. its best to just remove the energy from your BC's with one ghost so all your BC's have 200 extra health. it really sucks how the BC energy bar/yamato is essentially pointless/worthless against toss because of feedback but oh well


even without emp'ing your BC's, as long as they were spread to avoid vortex, or one EMP on the mothership, then MVP woulda won that game


BC's dont sukk. sigh i wish MVP won but now all the nerds are gonna use that game as evidence that BC's are not viable lategame TvP o well.



you can't beat all those voidrays with self-EMPd BCs. Yamoto crushes voidrays.. MVP got caught off guard by the Mothership coming in from the flank.. if he had EMPd it, vortex wouldn't have been a problem. And it's not like Motherships are difficult to EMP


People need to realize that MVP was just fucking with squritle already and was not playing that game seriously. This was not an indication of BCs usefullness/viability in TvP or late game or if an archon toliet is incredibly OP (which it is TBH but w/e not much you can fix about that in tvz where it's an actual problem). What we saw was MVP mass up planetaries and mass BCs. people need to just think about that sentence a bit and realize how little that game counts towards actual balance discussion.



actually the game could play out ALOT **on that map** just like that because metropolis is a map where 1 planetary defends your main, natural and third


it really is very map dependant. Not many maps allow you to defend your main, third, and natural with a single planetary. on maps where that is possible, that game scenario of massing BC's after planetary defense is very possible
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
May 19 2012 10:49 GMT
#4584
On May 19 2012 19:47 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 19:46 MCDayC wrote:
why is dual shite i nthe mapj pool?

I thought this map favored zerg but was ok in non Z matchups.

It only favors Zerg vs P, and only when they want to take a third.

2base all ins work very well here.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
May 19 2012 10:49 GMT
#4585
I hope this game is terrible
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 19 2012 10:49 GMT
#4586
On May 19 2012 19:48 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 19:47 windsupernova wrote:
On May 19 2012 19:45 Talack wrote:
On May 19 2012 19:43 Quotidian wrote:
On May 19 2012 19:35 roymarthyup wrote:
MVP would have won if he 1) stacked all his bc's and emp'ed them twice. one ghost can eliminate all energy from bc's

2) spread his bc's as hes going into combat


easy to do but he just didnt think of it. there isnt enough time in battle for BC's to yamato everything before feedback deals 200 damage to all of them. its best to just remove the energy from your BC's with one ghost so all your BC's have 200 extra health. it really sucks how the BC energy bar/yamato is essentially pointless/worthless against toss because of feedback but oh well


even without emp'ing your BC's, as long as they were spread to avoid vortex, or one EMP on the mothership, then MVP woulda won that game


BC's dont sukk. sigh i wish MVP won but now all the nerds are gonna use that game as evidence that BC's are not viable lategame TvP o well.



you can't beat all those voidrays with self-EMPd BCs. Yamoto crushes voidrays.. MVP got caught off guard by the Mothership coming in from the flank.. if he had EMPd it, vortex wouldn't have been a problem. And it's not like Motherships are difficult to EMP


People need to realize that MVP was just fucking with squritle already and was not playing that game seriously. This was not an indication of BCs usefullness/viability in TvP or late game or if an archon toliet is incredibly OP (which it is TBH but w/e not much you can fix about that in tvz where it's an actual problem). What we saw was MVP mass up planetaries and mass BCs. people need to just think about that sentence a bit and realize how little that game counts towards actual balance discussion.


Are you really saying that MVP was fucking around in a game worth thousands of dollars?


Are you really saying that MVP's long-term strategy was to mass up planetaries and battlecruisers into 30 of them and then move out? Common man...

Yes. Planetaries are great for defense when you have a lot of Money, and a lot of BCs will demolish pretty much anything. Valid tactic.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 19 2012 10:49 GMT
#4587
Two base siege tank marine banshee?
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 10:50:47
May 19 2012 10:49 GMT
#4588
On May 19 2012 19:45 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 19:43 Quotidian wrote:
On May 19 2012 19:35 roymarthyup wrote:
MVP would have won if he 1) stacked all his bc's and emp'ed them twice. one ghost can eliminate all energy from bc's

2) spread his bc's as hes going into combat


easy to do but he just didnt think of it. there isnt enough time in battle for BC's to yamato everything before feedback deals 200 damage to all of them. its best to just remove the energy from your BC's with one ghost so all your BC's have 200 extra health. it really sucks how the BC energy bar/yamato is essentially pointless/worthless against toss because of feedback but oh well


even without emp'ing your BC's, as long as they were spread to avoid vortex, or one EMP on the mothership, then MVP woulda won that game


BC's dont sukk. sigh i wish MVP won but now all the nerds are gonna use that game as evidence that BC's are not viable lategame TvP o well.



you can't beat all those voidrays with self-EMPd BCs. Yamoto crushes voidrays.. MVP got caught off guard by the Mothership coming in from the flank.. if he had EMPd it, vortex wouldn't have been a problem. And it's not like Motherships are difficult to EMP


People need to realize that MVP was just fucking with squritle already and was not playing that game seriously. This was not an indication of BCs usefullness/viability in TvP or late game or if an archon toliet is incredibly OP (which it is TBH but w/e not much you can fix about that in tvz where it's an actual problem). What we saw was MVP mass up planetaries and mass BCs. people need to just think about that sentence a bit and realize how little that game counts towards actual balance discussion.


I don't get the point of your post (as a reply to mine) Turtleing being PFs and massing BCs and ghosts is absolutely a viable way to play, and I don't think MVP is "just fucking" with Squirtle when his 3-0 lead has just evaporated and that much money is on the line. Use some common sense, plz
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
May 19 2012 10:49 GMT
#4589
Mvp has 52 SCVs now, so he had 48 and not 28 before.
Liquipedia"Expert"
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
May 19 2012 10:49 GMT
#4590
My stream is also blurry on LQ ;(
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
May 19 2012 10:49 GMT
#4591
MVP making the games and the finals interesting, not the lame turtler ST_Squirrel.
"MC" -> Master of Ceremonies xD
AgaliareptX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States14 Posts
May 19 2012 10:49 GMT
#4592
On May 19 2012 19:49 Inflicted_ wrote:
Mvp has 52 SCVs now, so he had 48 and not 28 before.


Looked like 28 on mine too lol, but i'm watching in SD free so yeah lol
Theeakoz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1114 Posts
May 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#4593
On May 19 2012 19:48 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 19:47 Theeakoz wrote:
On May 19 2012 19:46 MCDayC wrote:
why is dual shite i nthe mapj pool?

nice post... what has teamliquid come to

oops!
Why is dual site in the map pool, its shite. Sorry.

don't worry who cares anymore
Please change the luck dependancy of spawning locations on rotationally symmetric maps.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
May 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#4594
On May 19 2012 19:49 Inflicted_ wrote:
Mvp has 52 SCVs now, so he had 48 and not 28 before.


I see 40 on the unit tab? :o
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
May 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#4595
That one Pylon again... god, that Pylon is making me shake

Squirtle, why do you always power all your important stuff with 1 Pylon? T-T
BW: sGs.sTaRfaLL SC2: MarojiN | fan of: Darkforce, DBS, Last, Mvp, BoguS/InnoVatioN | Executer vs Choosy on Gladiator - Never forget T-T
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#4596
On May 19 2012 19:49 Inflicted_ wrote:
Mvp has 52 SCVs now, so he had 48 and not 28 before.


I definitely saw 28 scvs.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
May 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#4597
sick stop on the zealots to hide charge
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
May 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#4598
On May 19 2012 19:49 AgaliareptX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 19:49 Inflicted_ wrote:
Mvp has 52 SCVs now, so he had 48 and not 28 before.


Looked like 28 on mine too lol, but i'm watching in SD free so yeah lol


Yeah. I was really confused since his army was still small for an all-in.
Liquipedia"Expert"
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 10:50:41
May 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#4599
squirtle carefully held those zealots back to hide charge. sick.

unless MVP clicked them and saw the move speed!
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
May 19 2012 10:50 GMT
#4600
On May 19 2012 19:49 Gladiator333 wrote:
My stream is also blurry on LQ ;(

I think "my blur is a little bit streamy" fits better
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