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tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
April 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#2021
The player I cheer for lost! This game must be imbalanced!!
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
April 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#2022
On April 25 2012 20:37 Inflicted_ wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:36 THM wrote:
Wow I can't BELIEVE how lucky parting was there. He attacked exactly 5 seconds before siege mode was done, and at the exact time 8 marines were put in a medivac and sent away.

I get annoyed by such stuff -_-


Luck... yep. That's totally how timing attacks work.

Haha, it was a good strat and all, but do you seriously think he knew that he hit five seconds before siege? And how the hell would he know that MKP sent out a dropship?
"NO" -Has
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
April 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#2023
On April 25 2012 20:38 architecture wrote:
The issue is like Idra said for the game in general.

Theres no way to scout or determine builds before having to react to them. Builds hit too fast and you are locked into them too long.

Obviously he meant this in context of ZvT, but Z have essentially learned that practically all early T timings can be blocked with similar responses. Additional tech like roach warren/bane nest aren't too much of a cost and Z production is more explosive than T.

In contrast, P is far more explosive than T. You can play super safe every game and survive to mid game, but you will manhandled when P greeds instead. The issue of course is that the greed is practically undetectable, which could be manageable except for the explosiveness of warpin when he doesn't greed.

Except MKP could've held that if he didn't have a dropship worth of marines not in the fight at the beginning...>_>
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 11:41:10
April 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#2024
On April 25 2012 20:39 Poopi wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:36 THM wrote:
Wow I can't BELIEVE how lucky parting was there. He attacked exactly 5 seconds before siege mode was done, and at the exact time 8 marines were put in a medivac and sent away.

I get annoyed by such stuff -_-

That's daybreak for you, whatever the protoss do (play passive with fast third or be agressive) the terran will lose.
I can't wait till they get rid of this map in the GSL

Blasphemy. Wolftosis said it's the best SC2 map ever.

EDIT: Just as I post I remember that both are tosses. But whatever, whatever Wolftosis say is truth.
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Mowr
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden791 Posts
April 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#2025
On April 25 2012 20:36 radiantshadow92 wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:35 tomatriedes wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:35 Fubi wrote:
Terran has better early games guys


Go whine in some other thread.


he has a point though, terran doesn't actually have a better early/mid game like everyone says.

Not totally correct. The win rate statistics thread showed that terran by far wins most in the midgame when medivacs are out but protoss mostly has a single tech path. Protoss won in early and mostly in late game.
Kill one man and they'll call you a murderer. Kill an army of men and they'll call you a general. But kill all men and they'll call you a god.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
April 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#2026
On April 25 2012 20:37 Jono7272 wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:36 radiantshadow92 wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:35 tomatriedes wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:35 Fubi wrote:
Terran has better early games guys


Go whine in some other thread.


he has a point though, terran doesn't actually have a better early/mid game like everyone says.

Yeah, people definitely overestimate Terrans early game. Terran is definitely vulnerable to a lot of timings.

Yea that was my point; when T says P's lategame is too strong, they counter with "well T has stronger early games", which definitely isn't true.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8640 Posts
April 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#2027
On April 25 2012 20:39 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:36 THM wrote:
Wow I can't BELIEVE how lucky parting was there. He attacked exactly 5 seconds before siege mode was done, and at the exact time 8 marines were put in a medivac and sent away.

I get annoyed by such stuff -_-

That's daybreak for you, whatever the protoss do (play passive with fast third or be agressive) the terran will lose.
I can't wait till they get rid of this map in the GSL


I just keep quoting you until others start calling you(r bs) out as well - this is fun for me now
in the age of "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV" leadership.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
April 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#2028
On April 25 2012 20:39 tuestresfat wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:36 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:35 Fubi wrote:
Terran has better early games guys

What?
Everyone knows that protoss is the strongest early game and late game.

uhhh... wat

What what?
Ask Jinro even he said it.
WriterMaru
herbie
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
140 Posts
April 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#2029
MKP was expecting 4 gate pressure if anything, When the timing for 4 gate pressure had gone he decided to go drop.
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
April 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#2030
On April 25 2012 20:38 GreyKnight wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:37 FakeDeath wrote:
This was just a build order win. Parting went for a 7 gateway timing all-in.
MKP went for 3 base and was teching and had literally no units.


no it wasn't. if marine king had those marines and the medivac with some scvs pulled he would have held that for sure with a sieged tank


If anything it was a build order win for MKP if he hadn't gone for that silly drop maneuver.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
April 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#2031
On April 25 2012 20:40 sAsImre wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:37 PeggyHill wrote:
Anyone got any games from Code A yesterday to reccomend for me?


Byun vs NaDa if you like precise and neat TvT


Also Sniper v Avenge, were pretty tense PvZ's. Bomber v Alicia was pretty awful tho, dont watch that if you can help it :p
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 11:41:22
April 25 2012 11:40 GMT
#2032
On April 25 2012 20:40 sAsImre wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:37 PeggyHill wrote:
Anyone got any games from Code A yesterday to reccomend for me?


Byun vs NaDa if you like precise and neat TvT


This x1000. The winner played two beautiful TvT's.

Sniper and Avenge had some fun games. I didn't catch the first round of games though =(
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
April 25 2012 11:41 GMT
#2033
And the thread is starting to go hell
I've got moves like Jagger
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
April 25 2012 11:41 GMT
#2034
On April 25 2012 20:40 Fionn wrote:
So Parting is now on the side of the bracket with Naniwa and MVP. A PvP against Squirtle/MC/Oz could be really difficult, but if he can somehow roll Maru into MVP, he could breeze to the finals.


How weird would a Naniwa vs Parting semifinals be. I could actually see Naniwa having a chance winning that and being the first foreigner in the finals.
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ReadySetFire
Profile Joined October 2011
Kuwait545 Posts
April 25 2012 11:41 GMT
#2035
On April 25 2012 20:40 tuestresfat wrote:
The player I cheer for lost! This game must be imbalanced!!

mkp fanboys.....
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
April 25 2012 11:41 GMT
#2036
On April 25 2012 20:38 Baum wrote:
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On April 25 2012 20:36 Sabu113 wrote:
Mkp can be pretty happy with his performance. Parting looked very very good tonight.

Oh god I think that thread is going to be revived.


No, he can't. He had the game won but sent a drop right as the all in arrived. He could have held with ease if he had his defense set up as he should have.


If his read is correct and he barely holds then the drop does terrible terrible damage. He was wrong this time. It's just like when MC gets a little retarded with his stalkers.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
nt-rAven
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada405 Posts
April 25 2012 11:41 GMT
#2037
Parting going to get metagamed next time with ghosts~ any kind of ghost play and he gets owned but no terran does it early enough~ MKP didn't play well at all, but im happy a Protoss is actually going through well faught series and well worth watching~
get owned
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
April 25 2012 11:41 GMT
#2038
That's minimum 4 protoss in the RO8, and possibly 5 (if we get 2 protoss wins tomorrow). That's huge.
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
April 25 2012 11:41 GMT
#2039
On April 25 2012 20:40 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 20:39 tuestresfat wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:36 Poopi wrote:
On April 25 2012 20:35 Fubi wrote:
Terran has better early games guys

What?
Everyone knows that protoss is the strongest early game and late game.

uhhh... wat

What what?
Ask Jinro even he said it.

Some what off topic, where has Jinro been?
KaRath_
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia245 Posts
April 25 2012 11:41 GMT
#2040
I love it how people just go "OMG PARTING WON SUCK IT MKP FANBOYS" or "GSTL REVENGE".

Seriously, a set of good matches only strengthens a healthy rivalry. I won't be surprised if ST_Parting and MarineKingPrime become like what Bisu and Flash become (except in SC2, and maybe less legendary. Because Flash and Bisu are more legendary)

Parting played better, he deserves the match, GG WP, and what the fuck is it with the bitching about timing attacks/protoss/terran/luck/disconnects/etc. Just say that it was an excellent match to watch, and leave it at that.

P.S. Can someone chuck in a picture of a conspiracy photo of a SC2 player saying "What happens if MKP lost to make up to ST for the disconnect issue back in Las Vegas?"
I wasted my nights, you turned out the lights, now I'm paralysed, still stuck in that time...
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