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Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 15 2012 01:42 GMT
#261
Lmao acording to Idra match history something funny is happening:D

hahha
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
AysiktiriX
Profile Joined June 2011
358 Posts
April 15 2012 01:42 GMT
#262
On April 15 2012 10:38 Powerfoe wrote:
"NICE, no, excuse me bad storms!"

Seems like Gretorp is trying to shed the long-heralded caster stereotype of praising every storm/forcefield/fungal used in the game


No, actually if you saw it - the landing of the storms was good, but then Thorzain moved his units back and a lot of probes and zealots marched through them.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
April 15 2012 01:42 GMT
#263
On April 15 2012 10:39 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 10:37 Exarl25 wrote:
On April 15 2012 10:30 BretZ wrote:
On April 15 2012 10:25 Exarl25 wrote:
Ok sorry but I have to say.

They were going to broadcast that game live with no delay?

WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT? That is 100% unacceptable. Out of all the shit I have seen from the NASL this is the worst by far.

Seriously, how fucking naive can they be? Has this been done before? People will cheat, how fucking stupid can you be?


We don't know if there is one or not. Usually people trust professional players, people who play for a living, to play fairly. Part of the deal. They can't be blamed by a choice by IdrA, and Cruncher wasn't going to anyways.


You trust the people playing for big money to play fairly? That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. You think there hasn't been cheating in eSports before? Like I said, that is incredibly naive. Even if this were a match between Sheth and White-Ra, tournaments should be as rigorous as possible when it comes to making sure the match can be nothing but fair. You can't just assume the players will do the honorable thing.

I really, really want to hear an official word from NASL on this. If they have a delay and IdrA is just being unreasonable, fine. If they were actually going to allow that match to proceed without taking any precautions to prevent cheating, that is outrageously incompetent.


Deezer and combat managed to do pretty well with stream cheating even with the delays


What are you talking about? Examples please.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 15 2012 01:42 GMT
#264
On April 15 2012 10:41 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 10:34 Nighthawks28 wrote:
On April 15 2012 10:31 Doodsmack wrote:
NASL shouldn't honor a request by a player to not play live for that reason. If NASL is going to run a season with live games, then they've made that decision with the understanding that there is the potential downside of stream cheating, however unlikely. For them to allow Idra to choose not to play live would seem to be an admission that games shouldn't be played live because of the potential to stream cheat. Idra is submitting to the rules of NASL by participating in the league, they should tell him forfeit or play. I actually can't believe they just let Idra push them around.


It's good that NASL honored the request, considering that other players (particularly some european/korean players didn't have to play live). Your acting like all the games are live. Almost half the games are replays that were played within 24 hours of the cast.


Regardless NASL has hyped up this season in saying that as many games will be casted live as possible. It's part of NASL's strategy for success. NASL has now opened itself up to the possibility that every player can request that his games not be casted live. Again, Idra should have to cooperate with NASL's rules to play in the league.

NASL would take so much damage if a player saids he thinks his opponent is/will stream cheat and then that palyer loses

just imagine how much reddit would blow up if NASL allowed cheating
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
April 15 2012 01:42 GMT
#265
On April 15 2012 10:38 BretZ wrote:
Thorzain DOMINATING this new Korean high-templar heavy style.


I think he beat the forge build (early game), not the templar style late game imo.

He beat the forge with the quick third orbital.
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
April 15 2012 01:43 GMT
#266
On April 15 2012 10:42 Benjamin99 wrote:
Lmao acording to Idra match history something funny is happening:D

hahha


:D
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
April 15 2012 01:43 GMT
#267
On April 15 2012 10:38 BretZ wrote:
Thorzain DOMINATING this new Korean high-templar heavy style.
alicia played terribly. he's trying to emulate PartinG's PvT, but he had zero map presence. he also got out-macro'd because he didn't spot the third CC for several minutes.
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 15 2012 01:43 GMT
#268
On April 15 2012 10:42 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 10:41 Doodsmack wrote:
On April 15 2012 10:34 Nighthawks28 wrote:
On April 15 2012 10:31 Doodsmack wrote:
NASL shouldn't honor a request by a player to not play live for that reason. If NASL is going to run a season with live games, then they've made that decision with the understanding that there is the potential downside of stream cheating, however unlikely. For them to allow Idra to choose not to play live would seem to be an admission that games shouldn't be played live because of the potential to stream cheat. Idra is submitting to the rules of NASL by participating in the league, they should tell him forfeit or play. I actually can't believe they just let Idra push them around.


It's good that NASL honored the request, considering that other players (particularly some european/korean players didn't have to play live). Your acting like all the games are live. Almost half the games are replays that were played within 24 hours of the cast.


Regardless NASL has hyped up this season in saying that as many games will be casted live as possible. It's part of NASL's strategy for success. NASL has now opened itself up to the possibility that every player can request that his games not be casted live. Again, Idra should have to cooperate with NASL's rules to play in the league.

NASL would take so much damage if a player saids he thinks his opponent is/will stream cheat and then that palyer loses

just imagine how much reddit would blow up if NASL allowed cheating



Um, there's no evidence (let alone proof) that cruncher stream cheated Idra. Just because people are insinuating or saying it in this thread doesn't make it true. I've yet to see any of them back up their claim with evidence.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
April 15 2012 01:44 GMT
#269
On April 15 2012 10:40 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 10:34 mememolly wrote:
if cruncher made this request would they have abided?

Hopefully they would. Moreover, Cruncher should be happy Idra requested this. There's a history of slightly fishy circumstance regarding Idra v Cruncher and streams. The fact is, this protects Cruncher from accusations more than anything. Its good for him.

Personally I don't really mind that he asked to play it out and send the replay, but to say it is because he doesn't trust Cruncher not to stream cheat... Or well suppose NASL should've just not listed why idra wanted not to play live, but I find the reasoning pretty damn bad seeing as if he was caught stream cheating in a tournament it would basically mean the end of his SC2 career
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
April 15 2012 01:44 GMT
#270
On April 15 2012 10:42 Benjamin99 wrote:
Lmao acording to Idra match history something funny is happening:D

hahha

Spoiling games that haven't been broadcasted is not well seen usually... I wouldn't write about the match history too much.
Regardless, NASL's maps are cloaked.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 15 2012 01:44 GMT
#271
I understand completely what Idra did (bit silly, but if he wants to) but waiting until the tournament went live is stupid. Either way, gogogo Thorzain.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44157 Posts
April 15 2012 01:44 GMT
#272
lol Gretorp going cross-eyed when dancing in his seat
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
April 15 2012 01:45 GMT
#273
Talk about how they practiced together in the Slayers house plz
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
April 15 2012 01:45 GMT
#274
On April 15 2012 10:44 MCDayC wrote:
I understand completely what Idra did (bit silly, but if he wants to) but waiting until the tournament went live is stupid. Either way, gogogo Thorzain.

Agree..requesting it to be on a replay is fine. Waiting till the game goes live and pausing THEN doing it..eh
-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
April 15 2012 01:47 GMT
#275
when will the idra match be broadcasted now btw? sorry if this has been answered already.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44157 Posts
April 15 2012 01:47 GMT
#276
Bob Barker is no longer the host of Price is Right.

Why don't they cast the game.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
April 15 2012 01:47 GMT
#277
On April 15 2012 10:47 AegiS_ wrote:
when will the idra match be broadcasted now btw? sorry if this has been answered already.


after thorzain - alicia
hundred thousand krouner
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
April 15 2012 01:48 GMT
#278
This Thorzain build is the terran counter-part to the parting nexus off 1-gate.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 15 2012 01:48 GMT
#279
On April 15 2012 10:45 AbuntuGuntu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 10:44 MCDayC wrote:
I understand completely what Idra did (bit silly, but if he wants to) but waiting until the tournament went live is stupid. Either way, gogogo Thorzain.

Agree..requesting it to be on a replay is fine. Waiting till the game goes live and pausing THEN doing it..eh


Exactly he wanted to embarrass Cruncher.
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2038 Posts
April 15 2012 01:48 GMT
#280
On April 15 2012 10:47 AegiS_ wrote:
when will the idra match be broadcasted now btw? sorry if this has been answered already.


It will be cast with replays
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