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Mesha
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina439 Posts
April 15 2012 01:30 GMT
#201
When is idra match?
Reality hits you hard bro.
TripleCow
Profile Joined February 2011
United States240 Posts
April 15 2012 01:30 GMT
#202
On April 15 2012 10:28 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 10:28 Doodlerapid wrote:
On April 15 2012 10:26 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 15 2012 10:24 drbrown wrote:
On April 15 2012 10:24 BretZ wrote:
hahahaha IdrA acussing cruncher of stream cheating lolololol


He actually did it before i think


Stop saying stuff you got no evidence off. Its so disrespectless to Cruncher. And think I was actually feeling sorry for Idra for his 2012. Now I woulnt mind to see that jerk burn and sink


Maybe you should read the thread before you say things like this. Cruncher has sniped him all the time.

Sniping isn't cheating, FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU


It is when you stream peak. Yes, IdrA got the huge ban for calling him a waste of life, but it still happened. Cruncher's name was in the viewer list and everything.
Tyler: "I only needed one probe to take down IdrA. I had to upgrade to a zealot for Strelok."
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
April 15 2012 01:30 GMT
#203
I didn't have a side for IdrA vs CrunCher, but now...I really hope IdrA gets completely rolled. Such a dick move.
Hulavuta
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1252 Posts
April 15 2012 01:30 GMT
#204
Lol, I ask "can't players stream cheat?"

and then:

"IdrA has requested the game be cast from replays as he is afraid Cruncher will stream cheat."
Done with Team Liquid for a while. Don't expect to find me here.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
April 15 2012 01:30 GMT
#205
artosis is watching i bet he giggled
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 15 2012 01:30 GMT
#206
I dont know how IdrA have so many fanboys with these attitudes.

disrespectful from DramatIdrA.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
April 15 2012 01:30 GMT
#207
On April 15 2012 10:29 decerto wrote:
Unmuted stream to hear them talking about pushups and gretorp is still casting, guess im watching NASL on mute again this season

This is my first day this season that I watched with Gretorp casting; have to say that MrBitter/RotterdaM is definatly with your time though, I wouldn't mute that at all.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
April 15 2012 01:31 GMT
#208
Rofl Idra is such a sore loser.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 15 2012 01:31 GMT
#209
NASL shouldn't honor a request by a player to not play live for that reason. If NASL is going to run a season with live games, then they've made that decision with the understanding that there is the potential downside of stream cheating, however unlikely. For them to allow Idra to choose not to play live would seem to be an admission that games shouldn't be played live because of the potential to stream cheat. Idra is submitting to the rules of NASL by participating in the league, they should tell him forfeit or play. I actually can't believe they just let Idra push them around.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 15 2012 01:31 GMT
#210
On April 15 2012 10:30 Ruscour wrote:
I didn't have a side for IdrA vs CrunCher, but now...I really hope IdrA gets completely rolled. Such a dick move.

how is it a dick move? the only difference is IdrA VS Cuncher happens after Thorzain VS Alicia

imo i like it, i hadnt thought of stream cheating before but iwth 150 on the line and no watch dog to stop it its definently possible
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
April 15 2012 01:31 GMT
#211
nasl can't win, cast replays - get shit from viewers, cast live - get shit from idra
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2076 Posts
April 15 2012 01:31 GMT
#212
Oh well, at least we get see Thorzain :/
#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3546 Posts
April 15 2012 01:31 GMT
#213
Idra is the only smart one here - running a live tournament without any stream delay is stupid. Even though cruncher probably wouldn't stream cheat, the fact that it would easily be possible for a player to stream cheat to win NASL games is a problem that needs to be addressed. Believe it or not, people do stream cheat in online tournaments, and have done so since back in the days of brood war, and if tournaments broadcast live with no delay, there will be some people who take advantage of it.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
April 15 2012 01:32 GMT
#214
How can he not know the trend toward blink, does he not watch any gsl at all or any ipl4?

Linog[e]
Profile Joined April 2012
59 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 01:32:25
April 15 2012 01:32 GMT
#215
"IdrA doesn't trust Cruncher not to watch the stream, so it's going to be casted from replays."

~20-30min
'Now you’re in the world of the wolves And we welcome all you sheep'
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
April 15 2012 01:32 GMT
#216
On April 15 2012 10:30 Doodlerapid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 10:28 Ruscour wrote:
On April 15 2012 10:28 Doodlerapid wrote:
On April 15 2012 10:26 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 15 2012 10:24 drbrown wrote:
On April 15 2012 10:24 BretZ wrote:
hahahaha IdrA acussing cruncher of stream cheating lolololol


He actually did it before i think


Stop saying stuff you got no evidence off. Its so disrespectless to Cruncher. And think I was actually feeling sorry for Idra for his 2012. Now I woulnt mind to see that jerk burn and sink


Maybe you should read the thread before you say things like this. Cruncher has sniped him all the time.

Sniping isn't cheating, FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU


It is when you stream peak. Yes, IdrA got the huge ban for calling him a waste of life, but it still happened. Cruncher's name was in the viewer list and everything.

IdrA's huge ban wasn't far calling Cruncher a waste of life; the massive 90days ban was for encouraging his fanboys to harass Chill for banning him in the first place

I believe the first smaller ban was 3 days; might also have been a week but I think 3 days is more likely..
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
April 15 2012 01:32 GMT
#217
On April 15 2012 10:27 drbrown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 10:25 Zarahtra wrote:
Hopefully Cruncher wins :/ That's pretty big accusation


CrunCher has stream cheated vs IdrA before, it's not a big accusation.

IdrA could've requested that the cast would be done off replays before the game started though

Point is though that there's nothing wrong with stream sniping on ladder. It is looked down upon by the community, but there is nothing really officially wrong with it. Stream sniping in a tournament is a whole different story.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
April 15 2012 01:33 GMT
#218
On April 15 2012 10:31 Doodsmack wrote:
NASL shouldn't honor a request by a player to not play live for that reason. If NASL is going to run a season with live games, then they've made that decision with the understanding that there is the potential downside of stream cheating, however unlikely. For them to allow Idra to choose not to play live would seem to be an admission that games shouldn't be played live because of the potential to stream cheat. Idra is submitting to the rules of NASL by participating in the league, they should tell him forfeit or play. I actually can't believe they just let Idra push them around.

If it was requested an hour ago I'd say they'd say no. They just wanted to get games started as soon as possible, drama would have delayed it no matter what.

Also, wtf, IdrA waits until the game starts to bring this up?
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 15 2012 01:33 GMT
#219
On April 15 2012 10:31 Doodsmack wrote:
NASL shouldn't honor a request by a player to not play live for that reason. If NASL is going to run a season with live games, then they've made that decision with the understanding that there is the potential downside of stream cheating, however unlikely. For them to allow Idra to choose not to play live would seem to be an admission that games shouldn't be played live because of the potential to stream cheat. Idra is submitting to the rules of NASL by participating in the league, they should tell him forfeit or play. I actually can't believe they just let Idra push them around.

every tournament gets pushed around by the players somewhat but this isnt one of those cases

it would be like if IdrA had to take an unforseeable break during the game its not like hes saying "yo guys reschedule the finals cause im tired" its just "yo do you mind casting my games second?"
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
April 15 2012 01:33 GMT
#220
On April 15 2012 10:31 Doodsmack wrote:
NASL shouldn't honor a request by a player to not play live for that reason. If NASL is going to run a season with live games, then they've made that decision with the understanding that there is the potential downside of stream cheating, however unlikely. For them to allow Idra to choose not to play live would seem to be an admission that games shouldn't be played live because of the potential to stream cheat. Idra is submitting to the rules of NASL by participating in the league, they should tell him forfeit or play. I actually can't believe they just let Idra push them around.


I agree.
He should have addressed his concerns before. Backing out of a live game shouldnt be tolerated.
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