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On April 16 2012 04:17 LeeDawg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 15:15 Dasende wrote:On April 15 2012 14:13 LeeDawg wrote:On April 15 2012 13:56 Dasende wrote:On April 15 2012 13:48 LeeDawg wrote:On April 15 2012 13:12 PAYBACK-SXE wrote:
also, what are the rules on observers? can teammates watch their bros play it out?
vote no for obs being allowed. just dont want to even invite potential issues there glhf everyone i agree, but with no rule, it's anything goes. Ruling will be made before the league starts. Expect it to be that no observers will be allowed, with the exception of the captain. will there be a ruling on how your system of choosing who plays is flawed and will result in many matches not getting played out? If that is the case, we can easily change it to a lineup format. Now please post with more hostility next time. not trying to be hostile, but since you asked, can you make your rules with more common sense next time?
You don't need to get worked up over this, the only reason we're doing this league is for you guys. If something won't work with the players, why should we continue to do it? Don't worry, everything is gonna be settled to suit the players' needs, we're still trying to make all this stuff in the best way we can.
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On April 16 2012 04:17 LeeDawg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 15:15 Dasende wrote:On April 15 2012 14:13 LeeDawg wrote:On April 15 2012 13:56 Dasende wrote:On April 15 2012 13:48 LeeDawg wrote:On April 15 2012 13:12 PAYBACK-SXE wrote:
also, what are the rules on observers? can teammates watch their bros play it out?
vote no for obs being allowed. just dont want to even invite potential issues there glhf everyone i agree, but with no rule, it's anything goes. Ruling will be made before the league starts. Expect it to be that no observers will be allowed, with the exception of the captain. will there be a ruling on how your system of choosing who plays is flawed and will result in many matches not getting played out? If that is the case, we can easily change it to a lineup format. Now please post with more hostility next time. not trying to be hostile, but since you asked, can you make your rules with more common sense next time?
There's no need to be nasty, the admins here have put a lot of work into this for all the players that get to enjoy this league. I feel like being more flexible would be a wiser decision, especially for the first season to give the greatest chance of success but we can see how it works out like this. It can always be changed if its clear that people are not able to finish their matches.
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Alright we had a simple meeting about this matter. We think we got to a compromise between the two formats in the following way:
We start this first week on Monday with the matches played in the aforementioned "winner picks first" match format as explained here and here. We're gonna monitor the process closely both by feedback in here and on Battle.net to see how it goes. By Wednesday we'll hopefully have talked with all team captains about how the process of playing in this format is unfolding. Based on the feedback from the captains about the format, we'll either 1) maintain the same format because everything went ok, or 2) change to the lineup format, because it was proven difficult for the teams to organize themselves to play the matches in order.
If by Wednesday night the option taken is option 2, starting Thursday the matches are to be played in the lineup format until Sunday. The sets that have been played before Thursday are still valid for the teams' matches. For example, if Set 1 has been played before Thursday (the day the format would change to lineup format), the teams would trade their lineups for Sets 2, 3, 4 and Ace, and in the end they would integrate the result and replay of Set 1 in the rest of the Sets.
What do you guys think?
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Also, we've decided that no observers are allowed in the games at all. We want to reduce any possible risks of cheating.
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On April 16 2012 06:18 howLiN wrote:Alright we had a simple meeting about this matter. We think we got to a compromise between the two formats in the following way: We start this first week on Monday with the matches played in the aforementioned "winner picks first" match format as explained here and here. We're gonna monitor the process closely both by feedback in here and on Battle.net to see how it goes. By Wednesday we'll hopefully have talked with all team captains about how the process of playing in this format is unfolding. Based on the feedback from the captains about the format, we'll either 1) maintain the same format because everything went ok, or 2) change to the lineup format, because it was proven difficult for the teams to organize themselves to play the matches in order. If by Wednesday night the option taken is option 2, starting Thursday the matches are to be played in the lineup format until Sunday. The sets that have been played before Thursday are still valid for the teams' matches. For example, if Set 1 has been played before Thursday (the day the format would change to lineup format), the teams would trade their lineups for Sets 2, 3, 4 and Ace, and in the end they would integrate the result and replay of Set 1 in the rest of the Sets. What do you guys think? ----- Also, we've decided that no observers are allowed in the games at all. We want to reduce any possible risks of cheating.
both are good decisions
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I have a suggestion, but it may be a dumb one. It might makes things easier if every player submitted their TL name as well as their Bnet name. That way if we were unable to contact through Bnet, we could PM them on here.
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On April 16 2012 09:17 MaximusT wrote:
I have a suggestion, but it may be a dumb one. It might makes things easier if every player submitted their TL name as well as their Bnet name. That way if we were unable to contact through Bnet, we could PM them on here.
The thing is that not everyone registered through TL, some people registered through e-mail. So even if we would do that, you guys wouldn't get everyone's TL from this way either.
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Question about streaming. Are players allowed to stream? Obviously they're taking the risk of stream cheaters.
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On April 16 2012 11:11 Chasian18 wrote:
Question about streaming. Are players allowed to stream? Obviously they're taking the risk of stream cheaters.
....jesus, no....chas you shoulnd't be streaming while playing, think about the information you're freely giving out??
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On April 16 2012 12:12 PAYBACK-SXE wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2012 11:11 Chasian18 wrote:
Question about streaming. Are players allowed to stream? Obviously they're taking the risk of stream cheaters. ....jesus, no....chas you shoulnd't be streaming while playing, think about the information you're freely giving out??
I vote no on player streaming too.
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Um, replays? All it takes is one player uploading replays and everyone knows how everyone else plays.
I won't be watching any, but I'm weird about the whole sportsmanship thing.
-Loki
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On April 16 2012 12:27 PAYBACKill wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2012 12:12 PAYBACK-SXE wrote:On April 16 2012 11:11 Chasian18 wrote:
Question about streaming. Are players allowed to stream? Obviously they're taking the risk of stream cheaters. ....jesus, no....chas you shoulnd't be streaming while playing, think about the information you're freely giving out?? I vote no on player streaming too.
No Streaming, just to avoid complications on the streamers end. (Just my opinion though, not representative of us 5)
On April 16 2012 12:52 Lokishadow wrote:
Um, replays? All it takes is one player uploading replays and everyone knows how everyone else plays.
I won't be watching any, but I'm weird about the whole sportsmanship thing.
-Loki
For the record replays will be available each week.
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Just want to say you guys are crazy paranoid about cheating, x_x moreso than professional leagues. What's the point of a for-fun league if you can't even watch and cheer on teammates? Why would people want to cheat in a league like this?
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On April 16 2012 13:04 Pokebunny wrote:
Just want to say you guys are crazy paranoid about cheating, x_x moreso than professional leagues. What's the point of a for-fun league if you can't even watch and cheer on teammates? Why would people want to cheat in a league like this?
It's more that the suggestion was given to us, so we're following in suit what we've received in feedback. Most of us were actually pretty lax with most of the rules in the beginning.
EDIT: Hope things are going well with you and It's Gosu 
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On April 16 2012 13:04 Pokebunny wrote:
Just want to say you guys are crazy paranoid about cheating, x_x moreso than professional leagues. What's the point of a for-fun league if you can't even watch and cheer on teammates? Why would people want to cheat in a league like this?
This. I highly doubt any one is going to cheat.
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CTL NA Division Season 1 starts TODAY!
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(no results yet)
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Week one: April 16th to April 22nd
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Map Pool for week one:
Set 1 (silver): Daybreak
Set 2 (bronze): Cloud Kingdom
Set 3 (gold): Tal'darim Altar
Set 4: (silver): Ohana
Ace Set (gold):
- Game 1: Metropolis
- Game 2: loser's choice from the remaining 5 maps of the map pool
- Game 3: loser's choice from the remaining 4 maps of the map pool
Seeds for week one:
Teams that pick their Set 1 player first:
- The King's Men
- Team Evolution
- Guns and Roaches
- Team Galaxy
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We'd like to remind every player to read the rules, it's of utmost importance that everyone understands and complies to the rules so the league can run as smoothly as possible.
Good luck and have fun!
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On April 16 2012 13:04 Pokebunny wrote:
Just want to say you guys are crazy paranoid about cheating, x_x moreso than professional leagues. What's the point of a for-fun league if you can't even watch and cheer on teammates? Why would people want to cheat in a league like this?
About observers, we went along with what the players from the league think about the matter, which is not allow observers in the games. About streaming, we don't have an official position yet, and in fact we're still making arrangements to have the playoffs streamed and casted, but it's nothing set in stone yet.
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waiting for the King's Men rep to check his inbox......
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Glfh all
BM Fighting!!
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ATTENTION TO ALL TEAMS:
Rule 10 has been changed to the following:
"Observers are allowed in a game, unless anyone involved in the game has an objection to it. If anyone has an objection to having observers in their game, that objection outweighs any desire of having observers in the game. As a followup, any player is free to stream their own games, provided they understand that they're putting their games at risk of cheating."
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