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I wanted to be able to see a TvT between ForGG and Polt -_-[GSL] 2012 Season 2 Code S Ro32 Group H - Page 99
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CeriseCherries
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I wanted to be able to see a TvT between ForGG and Polt -_- | ||
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Vul
United States685 Posts
On April 12 2012 04:47 JJH777 wrote: Then why did he lose in the first round of Code A to someone who failed to make Code S? Even though Polt lost his games, I still felt like he had really solid TvP. At one point Artosis was even talking about how Polt's TvP is better than MKP's and so on. There were long stretches of play where it seemed like Polt was ahead and had actually been controlling the game, especially in the first series. He was staying ahead up until 5 base against Parting I believe, but he eventually lost in the late game. After I watched the VODs, I got the impression Parting and Oz are some of the best PvTers, not that Polt's TvP isn't Code S level. I think Polt is capable of going 2-1 against Parting or Oz, he just didn't this time. What did you see in his game play that tells you he's not capable of staying in Code S? | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On April 12 2012 05:08 happyness wrote: TvP feels soooo map dependent. Entombed valley - auto win for toss. Antiga - auto win for terran. I can think of a lot of exceptions immediately. ...but yeah, in general I agree. | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
On April 12 2012 05:06 Vul wrote: Even though Polt lost his games, I still felt like he had really solid TvP. At one point Artosis was even talking about how Polt's TvP is better than MKP's and so on. There were long stretches of play where it seemed like Polt was ahead and had actually been controlling the game, especially in the first series. He was staying ahead up until 5 base against Parting I believe, but he eventually lost in the late game. After I watched the VODs, I got the impression Parting and Oz are some of the best PvTers, not that Polt's TvP isn't Code S level. I think Polt is capable of going 2-1 against Parting or Oz, he just didn't this time. What did you see in his game play that tells you he's not capable of staying in Code S? I agree here. Polt was looking really strong in some of those games. I just think this group was actually one of the hardest groups thus far (discounting forGG). Oz has been very solid and consistent for a while now and Parting's PvT is just disgusting. | ||
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JJH777
United States4418 Posts
On April 12 2012 05:06 Vul wrote: Even though Polt lost his games, I still felt like he had really solid TvP. At one point Artosis was even talking about how Polt's TvP is better than MKP's and so on. There were long stretches of play where it seemed like Polt was ahead and had actually been controlling the game, especially in the first series. He was staying ahead up until 5 base against Parting I believe, but he eventually lost in the late game. After I watched the VODs, I got the impression Parting and Oz are some of the best PvTers, not that Polt's TvP isn't Code S level. I think Polt is capable of going 2-1 against Parting or Oz, he just didn't this time. What did you see in his game play that tells you he's not capable of staying in Code S? I'm not good enough to say I saw anything specific in his games. What I do see is last nights results and his TLPD page throughout which he has gone 11-24 in GSL games since the start of GSL October. | ||
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kyllinghest
Norway1607 Posts
On April 12 2012 05:08 happyness wrote: TvP feels soooo map dependent. Entombed valley - auto win for toss. Antiga - auto win for terran. Am I the only one who think entombed is kinda ok, and daybreak is the real protoss map? | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
On April 12 2012 05:15 kyllinghest wrote: Am I the only one who think entombed is kinda ok, and daybreak is the real protoss map? Hmm, how so? Entombed it's difficult to drop, very secure third for toss and relatively easy fourth. Daybreak seems a little more spread out. | ||
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Heimatloser
Germany1494 Posts
On April 11 2012 06:37 HaXXspetten wrote: Except that would mean that he called ForGG a solid Code S player, which would be somewhat exaggerated imo. lets just say we were all right ;-) | ||
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-FoX
United States479 Posts
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
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Brotatolol
United States1742 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37076 Posts
On April 12 2012 07:27 johnnywup wrote: wtf? no recommended for first 3 matches? Alarm didn't go off in time for me T-T my bad...... | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On April 12 2012 05:06 Vul wrote: Even though Polt lost his games, I still felt like he had really solid TvP. At one point Artosis was even talking about how Polt's TvP is better than MKP's and so on. There were long stretches of play where it seemed like Polt was ahead and had actually been controlling the game, especially in the first series. He was staying ahead up until 5 base against Parting I believe, but he eventually lost in the late game. After I watched the VODs, I got the impression Parting and Oz are some of the best PvTers, not that Polt's TvP isn't Code S level. I think Polt is capable of going 2-1 against Parting or Oz, he just didn't this time. What did you see in his game play that tells you he's not capable of staying in Code S? I watched the game 3x and while his macro was awesome he played pooly in engagments. Attacking up protoss ramp half the game all clumped. Wiffed just about every EMP. One snipe out with about 30 total ghosts. Lost too many Ghosts cause he had 10 clumped in a ultralisk sized area. PartinG OTOH played awesome in those engagments. Spread out most of the time. Smart;y withdrew zealots from chasing kiting bio ball. Hit a few dozen stroms. Multi prong base harrassment. Polt Was outclassed on the micro. | ||
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power-overwhelming
Canada306 Posts
On April 12 2012 01:11 babylon wrote: Parting's PvT is better than MC's and probably the best in the world right now. I wouldn't have expected him to lose to Oz though. Lol Polt's streak vs MC was all last year when his stim timing was unstopabble.. giving him nearly 90% winrate vs toss. MC beat Polt in MLG and Polt beat MC in IPL. Polt did the same to Oz in IPL. I think Polt's tvp is till the best and he just made some bad decision always attacking to a ramp vs a protoss. Parting's style made it even better since he just waited to flank with storms. As far as who hast he best PvT I'd still give it to MC. Parting just has more oohs and aahs because of his templar play. | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
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IMHope
Korea (South)1241 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26765 Posts
On April 12 2012 05:14 JJH777 wrote: I'm not good enough to say I saw anything specific in his games. What I do see is last nights results and his TLPD page throughout which he has gone 11-24 in GSL games since the start of GSL October. Yeah you can look at his TLPD, or you can actually watch the games in which he showed strong play, a lot stronger than I've seen from other Code S players this season. In reality there are many players who have the ability to perform in Code S, that's what I'd define as 'Code S level', rather than merely results in Code S. I mean look at someone like Liquid Hero, he is not magically a better player than he's been showing for months, he just has some results behind him. To be described as 'outclassed' or 'not Code S level' Polt would have had to have been destroyed in massively one-sided games which was patently not the case. | ||
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noddy
United Kingdom927 Posts
On April 12 2012 05:06 Vul wrote: At one point Artosis was even talking about how Polt's TvP is better than MKP's and so on. Artosis is biased and really hated MarineKing, that's why he felt the need to mention this. Honestly anyone who has watched both players the past 2 months should be able to vouch for MKP. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On April 12 2012 10:11 noddy wrote: Artosis is biased and really hated MarineKing, that's why he felt the need to mention this. Honestly anyone who has watched both players the past 2 months should be able to vouch for MKP. Artosis has been hyping MKP up a shit ton over the last month or so, constantly talking about how great and amazing he is. | ||
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