• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:45
CEST 23:45
KST 06:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach0[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2313Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Grand Finals ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot [ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach StarCraft Human 'N' AI League
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1 [IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27!
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10769 users

[IPL4] Championship Bracket LR - Page 559

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 557 558 559 560 561 799 Next
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
April 09 2012 02:41 GMT
#11161
On April 09 2012 11:39 Silentness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 10:48 Silentness wrote:
Got damn 3-3 marines are a good unit.

User was warned for this post



lol wtf... this wasn't even a balance whine. It was just a statement saying that fully upgraded marines are godly.

then you should pm the mod
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
April 09 2012 02:41 GMT
#11162
Painuser, it is not www.justintv.com!

It's justin.tv!
✉ Tweets @sc2channel ⌦ Blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/JOJO ⌫ "Arbiterssss... build more arbiterssss." Click 'Profile' for awesome shiro art!
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
April 09 2012 02:41 GMT
#11163
On April 09 2012 11:39 CursOr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:38 Scufo wrote:
I think you guys are overblowing the fatigue factor a bit. These guys put in 8+ hour practice sessions on a regular basis.

Someone has never been to like Eastern Europe- tell me about 2pm local time on the 2nd day how you feel.

If you're talking about jetlag, it's a non-factor if you prepare yourself, which is what all of these guys should have been doing. I've made those transitions dozens of times and I haven't felt it once.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 02:42:04
April 09 2012 02:41 GMT
#11164
On April 09 2012 11:37 StarZeph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:33 Azarkon wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:31 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:28 Azarkon wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:22 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:20 Azarkon wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:18 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:16 Azarkon wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:12 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:10 Azarkon wrote:
[quote]

What.

They brought up the foreigners cheering for foreigners are racist angle; I'm bringing up their double standard.


There's a huge difference between cheering for foreigners and hating on Koreans.

What you were saying earlier was the latter. Learn the difference and you'll stop coming off like such a jerk.


Hating Koreans would be rooting for them to lose - which is what BackSideAttack was doing the entire weekend for Stephano.

I don't think I've ever rooted against a Korean, though I have rooted for foreigners. That's the difference.


Except no one has EVER hated on Stephano for being French. they hate on him because of the way he plays. There's a huge difference between saying "Stephano sucks" and "There's only Koreans left? I'm leaving or I'm going to complain."

Do you see that?


No, because no one's leaving because there are only Koreans left - they're leaving because there are no foreigners left, which is the difference that you fail to perceive. Hating Koreans is refusing to watch tournaments in which they participate - no one has ever done that. People leave because there are no foreigners left, which is the reason they leave when the remaining players are all Korean.


I'm done with this.

You obviously just don't get how you're coming off to people.


You're easily offended, I get it, but it's nothing compared to the offensiveness of saying that people who prefer to watch foreigners vs. Koreans rather than Koreans vs. Koreans are racists who strictly cheer for people of their own skin color.

Don't start fights you don't want to finish.


I'm not offended I'm just baffled by your logic or lack thereof.

You aren't being racist towards me because I'm not Korean there's no way for me to actually be offended, I'm actually trying to educate you in how you're coming off as racist just in case you decided you wanted to not sound like a racist.

Since you clearly don't care how you're coming off there's nothing left for me to discuss with you.


Thanks, but there's zero reason for me to think that I'm coming off as racist, as I've never gotten this complaint except from you.


While I probably wouldn't have really payed attention to it myself, this view point is certainly racist. It's not just racist to put one group down over another, but also racist to support one group above another. So you aren't being what people typically view a racist as, but you are changing your opinion based on race.


Incorrect.

Take the Olympics, for example. People root for their own countries' players during the Olympics, and when those players fall, they root for their own regions' players. That doesn't mean they're prejudiced against people of other races - that's just sports in a nutshell.

Saying that rooting for foreigners is racist is equivalent to saying all people are racist. In that case, it's a moot argument.
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 02:42:23
April 09 2012 02:42 GMT
#11165
[image loading]
Theeakoz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1114 Posts
April 09 2012 02:42 GMT
#11166
lol imagine if david ting would have came up the stage rightnow...
Please change the luck dependancy of spawning locations on rotationally symmetric maps.
Authweight
Profile Joined May 2010
United States304 Posts
April 09 2012 02:42 GMT
#11167
On April 09 2012 11:36 magnaflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:30 c0ldfusion wrote:
sigh.. why is there no extended series?! nestea owned squirtle already


LOL, what... someone actually wants extended series?? Your one in a million my friend


If you're gonna have double elim, I think ES is best. That said I would prefer single elim, or something like a pool system into a single elim bracket.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
April 09 2012 02:42 GMT
#11168
On April 09 2012 11:40 CursOr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:39 AbuntuGuntu wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:38 CursOr wrote:
Remember Idra forfeiting matches because of Jetlag?

I remember a couple instances in my life, where if it weren't for my wife, I would have been sleeping in baggage claim areas. Just not giving a shit. The exhaustion is hard to explain.


You act as if Squirtle didn't fly from korea aswell.

Maybe he was smarter about preparation- adjusting his schedule before leaving. Nestea is a mess.


Red Bull is a miracle worker.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 09 2012 02:42 GMT
#11169
God he's like crying from the fatigue. He can't hold on much longer.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 02:44:20
April 09 2012 02:42 GMT
#11170
Squirtle isnt even playing good. Just safe slow builds. Nestea is just playing terrible. I mean lost to a freken 3 gate expo poke,
MC for president
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 09 2012 02:42 GMT
#11171
On April 09 2012 11:41 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:38 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:38 IntoTheheart wrote:
Heading off for today.
Come on NesTea!
Cinderella story INCOMING!

how would a nestea win be considered a cinderella story?


because he is so incredibly beautiful

oh. makes sense now. thanks. =D
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 09 2012 02:42 GMT
#11172
I AM SENDING MY POWER TO YOU NESTEA DO A SPIRIT BOMB
craaaaack
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
479 Posts
April 09 2012 02:42 GMT
#11173
On April 09 2012 11:41 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:38 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:38 IntoTheheart wrote:
Heading off for today.
Come on NesTea!
Cinderella story INCOMING!

how would a nestea win be considered a cinderella story?


because he is so incredibly beautiful

lol nice one
▲ I was really thirsty while playing a match. All my teammates were gone, so I drank from the water bottle that was next to me. It was very good. I thank the owner of the bottle.
JackDT
Profile Joined January 2012
724 Posts
April 09 2012 02:43 GMT
#11174
On April 09 2012 11:40 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:38 whatthefat wrote:
Nestea, why you no read my guide?

He's been there for several days, I highly doubt jetlag out of all things is the reason for him suddenly slumping


Jet Lag is pretty random. And it only one night of bad sleep to mess you up.
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 09 2012 02:43 GMT
#11175
On April 09 2012 11:42 Ownos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:40 CursOr wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:39 AbuntuGuntu wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:38 CursOr wrote:
Remember Idra forfeiting matches because of Jetlag?

I remember a couple instances in my life, where if it weren't for my wife, I would have been sleeping in baggage claim areas. Just not giving a shit. The exhaustion is hard to explain.


You act as if Squirtle didn't fly from korea aswell.

Maybe he was smarter about preparation- adjusting his schedule before leaving. Nestea is a mess.


Red Bull is a miracle worker.


Parting was chugging red bull like a madman last night.
whatthefat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States918 Posts
April 09 2012 02:43 GMT
#11176
On April 09 2012 11:40 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:38 whatthefat wrote:
Nestea, why you no read my guide?

He's been there for several days, I highly doubt jetlag out of all things is the reason for him suddenly slumping

Not long enough to fully adapt.
And given that this keeps happening to him at international tournaments, I don't think he's properly preparing for the trip. It's quite possible that he is right now in the middle of his biological night.
SlayerS_BoxeR: "I always feel sorry towards Greg (Grack?) T_T"
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 09 2012 02:43 GMT
#11177
On April 09 2012 11:42 craaaaack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:41 Promethelax wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:38 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:38 IntoTheheart wrote:
Heading off for today.
Come on NesTea!
Cinderella story INCOMING!

how would a nestea win be considered a cinderella story?


because he is so incredibly beautiful

lol nice one

Well it's subjective, so you can't really disprove it lol
StarZeph
Profile Joined January 2011
United States14 Posts
April 09 2012 02:43 GMT
#11178
On April 09 2012 11:41 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:37 StarZeph wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:33 Azarkon wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:31 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:28 Azarkon wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:22 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:20 Azarkon wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:18 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:16 Azarkon wrote:
On April 09 2012 11:12 Vindicare605 wrote:
[quote]

There's a huge difference between cheering for foreigners and hating on Koreans.

What you were saying earlier was the latter. Learn the difference and you'll stop coming off like such a jerk.


Hating Koreans would be rooting for them to lose - which is what BackSideAttack was doing the entire weekend for Stephano.

I don't think I've ever rooted against a Korean, though I have rooted for foreigners. That's the difference.


Except no one has EVER hated on Stephano for being French. they hate on him because of the way he plays. There's a huge difference between saying "Stephano sucks" and "There's only Koreans left? I'm leaving or I'm going to complain."

Do you see that?


No, because no one's leaving because there are only Koreans left - they're leaving because there are no foreigners left, which is the difference that you fail to perceive. Hating Koreans is refusing to watch tournaments in which they participate - no one has ever done that. People leave because there are no foreigners left, which is the reason they leave when the remaining players are all Korean.


I'm done with this.

You obviously just don't get how you're coming off to people.


You're easily offended, I get it, but it's nothing compared to the offensiveness of saying that people who prefer to watch foreigners vs. Koreans rather than Koreans vs. Koreans are racists who strictly cheer for people of their own skin color.

Don't start fights you don't want to finish.


I'm not offended I'm just baffled by your logic or lack thereof.

You aren't being racist towards me because I'm not Korean there's no way for me to actually be offended, I'm actually trying to educate you in how you're coming off as racist just in case you decided you wanted to not sound like a racist.

Since you clearly don't care how you're coming off there's nothing left for me to discuss with you.


Thanks, but there's zero reason for me to think that I'm coming off as racist, as I've never gotten this complaint except from you.


While I probably wouldn't have really payed attention to it myself, this view point is certainly racist. It's not just racist to put one group down over another, but also racist to support one group above another. So you aren't being what people typically view a racist as, but you are changing your opinion based on race.


Incorrect.

Take the Olympics, for example. People root for their own countries' players during the Olympics, and when those players fall, they root for their own regions' players. That doesn't mean they're prejudiced against people of other races - that's just sports in a nutshell.

Saying that rooting for foreigners is racist is equivalent to saying all people are racist. In that case, it's a moot argument.

Ah good point, it's nationalistic basically.
Which is...meh. Most people do have those feelings yeah.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
April 09 2012 02:43 GMT
#11179
On April 09 2012 11:42 Theeakoz wrote:
lol imagine if david ting would have came up the stage rightnow...


then what?
Kevmeister @ Dota2
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
April 09 2012 02:43 GMT
#11180
On April 09 2012 11:41 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:40 AeroGear wrote:
What time is it in LA? 9h30 pm?
He's only 29yo, give him some caffein, he should be able to stay up until 5am NP at that age :/ (altough he really doesnt look fit)


Not even 8pm. But jetlag is a huge possibility

Las Vegas =/= LA. Nevada is in Mountain Time Zone, so it's around 8:43 right now.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Prev 1 557 558 559 560 561 799 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL Open Qualifier
19:00
Jungsu & Hasu #1
ZZZero.O122
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15116
Artosis 904
Shuttle 691
ZZZero.O 122
White-Ra 118
firebathero 78
League of Legends
Doublelift3243
JimRising 458
Counter-Strike
fl0m6135
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox500
Mew2King79
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu621
Other Games
Grubby3069
Liquid`RaSZi2651
KnowMe186
ArmadaUGS123
IndyStarCraft 86
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1066
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 10
lovetv 4
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 35
• Adnapsc2 23
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki17
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 6583
• WagamamaTV773
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 15m
Replay Cast
2h 15m
Afreeca Starleague
12h 15m
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
13h 15m
Monday Night Weeklies
18h 15m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 12h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 12h
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Online Event
5 days
FEL
5 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
BSL Open Qualifier
6 days
BSL Open Qualifier
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.