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On April 09 2012 11:19 ObliviousNA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 11:16 blooblooblahblah wrote:On April 09 2012 11:15 ObliviousNA wrote:
super meta-game win by squirtle, excellent play. Nestea... why allin?
overpool is not an allin. casters missed so much in this game, Nestea just got meta-gamed hard. Really? 11 pool gasless expo not allin? I think this game begs to differ if it's an autoloss to gateway 1st build. Nestea tried to get a scoutless advantage vs the 90% most common toss build, but squirtle took the slightly safer route and got the autowin.
11p expand is the safer (albeit not nearly as economical) alternative to the 15p expand. It also gives you the option to do some crazy drone ling all in if you wanted to
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On April 09 2012 11:20 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 11:20 Condor Hero wrote:On April 09 2012 11:19 Audemed wrote:
I dont comprehend how those casters cant understand the point of the 11 pool and the gold cancel. Well I don't expect Painuser to understand ZvP, as for HD, well I just don't. Painuser really only understands Terran, HD...idk I think he plays Protoss?
Could have fooled me, I figured they didn't play at all
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Nestea going to do 12 min maxout! called it!
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On April 09 2012 11:20 GodOfWar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 11:17 Laids wrote:
LOL Alive being gifted IPL4.
This is ridiculous.
retard comment. aLive had the best TvT in the world, even before this tournament, just being unnoticed by many Nice to see him improving in his TvP and TvZ as well, beating players like PartinG and NesTea. Definetly Top 3 Terran right now.
He was implying that out of the two in the LB right now, Squirtle has no chance and Nestea is tired as fuck.
He's wrong but that's what he meant.
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On April 09 2012 11:20 Kiyo. wrote:
"I hope Nestea has resolved any fatigue issues he had"
How's he supposed to do that in the 5 minutes since the last game HD?
Speed?
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11 pool is not cheese? lol. yeah right. Aquirtle just punished a cheesy opening by Nestea. Nestea often thinks he can get away with anything if he plays protoss (6 pooled Genius which became his downfall in the last GSL). That is just contempt of the protoss race and I'm so happy Squirtle punished him for it.
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can someone translate the korean stream in chat so i can figure out whats going on. Cause if i wanted to hear myself casting id just watch the main stream
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Oh finally unbanned lol but..
I am HOPING for NesTea to win the tournament but i just dont see anybody stopping Squirtle at this point
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On April 09 2012 11:20 Kiyo. wrote:
"I hope Nestea has resolved any fatigue issues he had"
How's he supposed to do that in the 5 minutes since the last game HD?
Perhaps by drinking some Nestea
I'll see myself out...
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On April 09 2012 11:21 magnaflow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 11:20 Whatson wrote:On April 09 2012 11:20 Condor Hero wrote:On April 09 2012 11:19 Audemed wrote:
I dont comprehend how those casters cant understand the point of the 11 pool and the gold cancel. Well I don't expect Painuser to understand ZvP, as for HD, well I just don't. Painuser really only understands Terran, HD...idk I think he plays Protoss? Could have fooled me, I figured they didn't play at all
Lol HD and Painuser are probably better players than most of TL.
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On April 09 2012 11:20 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 11:20 Condor Hero wrote:On April 09 2012 11:19 Audemed wrote:
I dont comprehend how those casters cant understand the point of the 11 pool and the gold cancel. Well I don't expect Painuser to understand ZvP, as for HD, well I just don't. Painuser really only understands Terran, HD...idk I think he plays Protoss?
HD plays zerg
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On April 09 2012 11:20 hifriend wrote:
A lot of players doing these super meta devolved styles in this tourny.
2 base colossus pushes rolling terrans
3 gate protoss destroying an empty natural
infestorless zvt, building mutas even in the late game
2 base colossus winsme games on ladder all the time lol
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On April 09 2012 11:21 magnaflow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 11:20 Whatson wrote:On April 09 2012 11:20 Condor Hero wrote:On April 09 2012 11:19 Audemed wrote:
I dont comprehend how those casters cant understand the point of the 11 pool and the gold cancel. Well I don't expect Painuser to understand ZvP, as for HD, well I just don't. Painuser really only understands Terran, HD...idk I think he plays Protoss? Could have fooled me, I figured they didn't play at all
"understands"
"plays"
Sorry, should've clarified... Still, they're way better than most TLers
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On April 09 2012 11:21 Malstriks wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 11:19 HQuality wrote:On April 09 2012 11:18 Malstriks wrote:On April 09 2012 11:17 Ravar wrote:On April 09 2012 11:16 RmoteCntrld wrote:
Nestea is a retard for saying oh yea I'm pretty tired I was falling asleep last game when hes standing right next to Squirtle. Thats like the biggest cue to just go ahead and cheese there ever was. Did you not watch the game? Nestea cheesed not Squirtle you're wrong it wasnt cheese... it was an 11 overpool how was that cheese he meant expo on gold 3gate is not cheese by ANY means he expo'ed to gold cause the metagame is FFE. nestea just didn't scout the gateway expand until too late. how is that nestea all in'ing? its standard vs ffe
Well going for the gold isn't really standard, plus zerg take the 3rd (edit: take the 3rd first before nat)only when they get pylon blocked. It wasn't allin, but it was very greedy
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On April 09 2012 11:21 magnaflow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 11:20 Whatson wrote:On April 09 2012 11:20 Condor Hero wrote:On April 09 2012 11:19 Audemed wrote:
I dont comprehend how those casters cant understand the point of the 11 pool and the gold cancel. Well I don't expect Painuser to understand ZvP, as for HD, well I just don't. Painuser really only understands Terran, HD...idk I think he plays Protoss? Could have fooled me, I figured they didn't play at all
PU has actually done pretty well before in the open bracket at an MLG in the last 6 months I think. He's definitely a GM level player if he stays in ok form.
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imo it should be the way mlg has it, with nestea up 2-1 and it going for a bo7
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On April 09 2012 11:20 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 11:18 Vindicare605 wrote:On April 09 2012 11:16 Azarkon wrote:On April 09 2012 11:12 Vindicare605 wrote:On April 09 2012 11:10 Azarkon wrote:On April 09 2012 11:08 hifriend wrote:On April 09 2012 11:07 Azarkon wrote:On April 09 2012 11:06 BackSideAttack wrote:On April 09 2012 11:04 Azarkon wrote:On April 09 2012 11:03 jj33 wrote:
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Yea he said himself the Koreans will produce great games. What more can you want?
He can't get past skin color. he's pretty sad. On April 09 2012 11:02 BackSideAttack wrote:
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Not really thats your opinion. My opinion is that i enjoy the games more when Koreans win. Aren't you two Korean, though? How is that showing him wrong... I'm Chinese American man. Okay, but that's the same thing when it comes to this - you're cheering for people of your own skin color >< lol you're on thin ice buddy What. They brought up the foreigners cheering for foreigners are racist angle; I'm bringing up their double standard. There's a huge difference between cheering for foreigners and hating on Koreans. What you were saying earlier was the latter. Learn the difference and you'll stop coming off like such a jerk. Hating Koreans would be rooting for them to lose - which is what BackSideAttack was doing the entire weekend for Stephano. I don't think I've ever rooted against a Korean, though I have rooted for foreigners. That's the difference. Except no one has EVER hated on Stephano for being French. they hate on him because of the way he plays. There's a huge difference between saying "Stephano sucks" and "There's only Koreans left? I'm leaving or I'm going to complain." Do you see that? No, because no one's leaving because there are only Koreans left - they're leaving because there are no foreigners left, which is the difference that you fail to perceive. Hating Koreans is refusing to watch tournaments in which they participate - no one has ever done that. People leave because there are no foreigners left, which is the reason they leave when the remaining players are all Korean.
I'm done with this.
You obviously just don't get how you're coming off to people.
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On April 09 2012 11:22 EmilA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 11:20 Kiyo. wrote:
"I hope Nestea has resolved any fatigue issues he had"
How's he supposed to do that in the 5 minutes since the last game HD? Perhaps by drinking some Nestea I'll see myself out...
I laughed, thanks.
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On April 09 2012 11:21 Bobo_XIII wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 11:19 ObliviousNA wrote:On April 09 2012 11:16 blooblooblahblah wrote:On April 09 2012 11:15 ObliviousNA wrote:
super meta-game win by squirtle, excellent play. Nestea... why allin?
overpool is not an allin. casters missed so much in this game, Nestea just got meta-gamed hard. Really? 11 pool gasless expo not allin? I think this game begs to differ if it's an autoloss to gateway 1st build. Nestea tried to get a scoutless advantage vs the 90% most common toss build, but squirtle took the slightly safer route and got the autowin. 11p expand is the safer (albeit not nearly as economical) alternative to the 15p expand. It also gives you the option to do some crazy drone ling all in if you wanted to
the only reason to 10 pool is to kill a free forge and pylon, force a cannon in the opponents mineral line and make them not able to leave there base for another 10 minutes
NesTea didnt get anything by cutting so many drones so he didnt ahve the eco to stop a 4gate, 4 gating after a Failed FFE due to 10 pool can work and NesTea got no damage in at all
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Why did he save to 400 minerals to put down a Forge first?
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