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[IPL] ToC Losers Final and GRAND Final! (Day 15)

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IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 01:53:49
April 02 2012 16:50 GMT
#1
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IGN Pro League is thrilled to be able to bring you another unique StarCraft II tournament! This one is called Tournament of Champions, and is a 16-man, double elimination tournament for a $12,000 prize pool! Each team from the IPL Team Arena Challenge was asked to pick one player from their roster to represent them in this global tournament, that will span the month of March. The WINNER of the Tournament of Champions will receive a spot in our live, open qualifier at IPL4 at the Cosmopolitan of Las Vegas, Official Home of the IPL as well as an all expenses paid flight and hotel stay for the event!


The time has come for our Losers Final and GRAND Final matches of the IGN Pro League Tournament of Champions!


[image loading]IPL Tournament of Champions


IPL Tournament of Champions General Discussion


Bracket: Official IPL Tournament of Champions Bracket


Stream Link: http://www.ign.com/ipl


When: Tuesday, Apr 03 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also have a European re-broadcast as usual at Tuesday, Apr 03 4:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00))



Format


This double-elimination tournament features 16 players from around the world and is an best of 5 format. The first match is for the Losers Final! The winner will move on to the Grand Final and the loser will take third place! Following that is the Grand Final, and the winner will receive $5,000 and a free trip to IPL4 to play in the Open Bracket! If Jjakji should lose the first Grand Final series, another series will be played, as he has not lost a series yet and the tournament is double elimination. Keep in mind that the top 8 spots receive prize money!




[image loading] kr Liquid`HerO vs kr Creator.Prime [image loading]

Poll: Who Will Win?!

HerO (78)
 
61%

Creator (49)
 
39%

127 total votes

Your vote: Who Will Win?!

(Vote): HerO
(Vote): Creator



Results

+ Show Spoiler [HerO vs Creator] +
HerO < Antiga Shipyard > Creator
HerO < Metropolis > Creator
HerO < Daybreak > Creator
Congratulations to Creator, winning 3-0! He moves on to the Grand Final, and HerO takes 3rd place!





[image loading] kr NSH.Jjakji vs LOSERS FINAL WINNER! [image loading]

Results

+ Show Spoiler [Jjakji vs LOSERS WINNER] +
Jjakji < Cloud Kingdom > Creator
Jjakji < Daybreak> Creator
Jjakji < Metropolis > Creator
Congratulations to Jjakji, winning $5,000 and the free trip to IPL4! Creator walks away with 2nd place!




The First Game for this match of IPL Tournament of Champions is on Tuesday, Apr 03 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also have a European re-broadcast as usual at Tuesday, Apr 03 4:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00))




Map List

IPLMap Sanshorn Mists AE
IPLMap Atlantis Spaceship
IPLMap Antiga Shipyard
IPLMap Daybreak
IPLMap Tal'Darim Altar LE
IPLMap Cloud Kingdom
IPLMap Metropolis

All the maps can be found on NA, EU, or KR by searching for IPLMap!

The first map will be on a set rotation, and then it is loser's pick.



Casters

This week's games will be commentated by CatsPajamas and Doa!




Stay up to date with IPL4, IPL Fight Club, and IPL Tournament of Champions by
checking our [image loading] Facebook, [image loading] Twitter, [image loading] YouTube, and Twitch.TV!
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
April 02 2012 16:51 GMT
#2
i really love just how much content there is from ipl. great stuff guys!
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
April 02 2012 16:53 GMT
#3
Hoping for jjakji to take it all so we can see him get some foreign tourment experience
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 02 2012 17:00 GMT
#4
Tweet said today but op tomorrow? I has a confuse. :/
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
April 02 2012 17:02 GMT
#5
On April 03 2012 02:00 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Tweet said today but op tomorrow? I has a confuse. :/

They are using hte time function that translate the date into your timezone(So 3. at 2 AM), it is infact the 2. in the US when this is being broadcasted
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
April 02 2012 17:02 GMT
#6
On April 03 2012 02:00 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Tweet said today but op tomorrow? I has a confuse. :/


No it doesnt
goldendwarf
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada170 Posts
April 02 2012 17:02 GMT
#7
Thinking jjakji is going to take the whole thing. If it plays out like in the winners bracket then creater should have a rematch with jjakji and lose to him again.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 02 2012 17:04 GMT
#8
On April 03 2012 02:02 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 02:00 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Tweet said today but op tomorrow? I has a confuse. :/

They are using hte time function that translate the date into your timezone(So 3. at 2 AM), it is infact the 2. in the US when this is being broadcasted


Oh. Now I has an embarrassment. Thanks. :3
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
quannguyen
Profile Joined January 2012
Vietnam1390 Posts
April 02 2012 17:07 GMT
#9
Rooting for HerO, but he'll go to Vegas anyway, and so will Creator, so Jjakji winning this is fine too. I just hope there will be great games
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 02 2012 17:21 GMT
#10
a pvp in the tournament of terrans? wat
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ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
April 02 2012 17:26 GMT
#11
On April 03 2012 02:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
a pvp in the tournament of terrans? wat

More like, a 2. pvp in the tournement of terrans! Creator beat hero in the upper bracket 3-0
Xtreme94
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia282 Posts
April 02 2012 17:41 GMT
#12
Time for HerO to get his revenge
iAmBiGbiRd
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia1029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 17:48:18
April 02 2012 17:47 GMT
#13
lol wrong thread....and i just spoiled myself for todays games
Hello friends:)
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
April 02 2012 17:55 GMT
#14
Come on Jjakji! just one more...
Team NSHoseo <3
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 02 2012 18:06 GMT
#15
Go Jjakji! Hero and Creator are going anyway, so Jjakji is most deserving of this win.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 18:15:11
April 02 2012 18:14 GMT
#16
So....ya, since creator and hero are already going, does jjakji kind of default win? (for the trip ofc, money will be given accordingly)

Or does that mean that if Hero or Creator won that they would just get a free trip and would mean less cost to the team, who can then use that ticket for someone else?
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 02 2012 18:26 GMT
#17
Jjakji for the win! Would be so cool if Jjakji was crowned IPL4 champion.

Imagine the outcries from all the HerO fans in the world if we had Extended Series in this tournament.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 18:31:11
April 02 2012 18:30 GMT
#18
On April 03 2012 03:14 Prplppleatr wrote:
So....ya, since creator and hero are already going, does jjakji kind of default win? (for the trip ofc, money will be given accordingly)

Or does that mean that if Hero or Creator won that they would just get a free trip and would mean less cost to the team, who can then use that ticket for someone else?


No Jjakji still needs to win. If Hero wins, his trip is paid for, but he's going regardless, along with his entire team. Creator's trip is already paid for, but I suppose he could win one of his teammates an Open Bracket spot perhaps. Basically the second possibility you said.

Jjakji has the most to gain from this tournament.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38198 Posts
April 02 2012 18:37 GMT
#19
Come on Jjakji, one more series to do this!

Would suck so hard for the one player left not already going to lose out ><

He looked very solid all the way through to this point too.
Sanz
Profile Joined December 2010
150 Posts
April 02 2012 18:37 GMT
#20
Go go Jjakji - i would love to see him at ipl!
We need representation of ns hoseo at foreign events!
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
April 02 2012 18:39 GMT
#21
Does the winner of the LB have to win two finals against Jjakji, or have some other kind of disadvantage?
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 18:43:06
April 02 2012 18:42 GMT
#22
Posible IPL spoiler? Do not open the spoiler link if you dont want to be spoiled

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 03 2012 02:13 IGNProLeague wrote:
Prime
Annyung
GhostKing
Creator
BumbleBee
BBoongBBong
Classic
Maru


Submitted for open bracket according to the IPL4 thread. Might mean creator loses against hero or jjakji. Otherwise i dont see why they would submit him as one of their 7 players since these games were played ahead of time as far as i know

Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
April 02 2012 18:44 GMT
#23
On April 03 2012 02:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
a pvp in the tournament of terrans? wat



Haha. My thoughts exactly. I thought it would be nothing but TvT from like round 3 and on. lol...



GO HERO!!!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 02 2012 18:44 GMT
#24
There is basically no way that is a spoiler. It is about as much of a spoiler as saying that HerO will not win because no tenth Liquid player has been presented by IGN as ready for group play.

Which begs the question. Will Liquid bring Bumblebee (we all know that monobattle heroism will translate to single player fame) or Nazgul if HerO wins?
pigtheman
Profile Joined January 2009
United States333 Posts
April 02 2012 18:53 GMT
#25
GOGOGO HERO (: reverse KO :D
*rawr* d(^_^d)
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 18:56:29
April 02 2012 18:55 GMT
#26
On April 03 2012 03:42 ragnorr wrote:
Posible IPL spoiler? Do not open the spoiler link if you dont want to be spoiled

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 03 2012 02:13 IGNProLeague wrote:
Prime
Annyung
GhostKing
Creator
BumbleBee
BBoongBBong
Classic
Maru


Submitted for open bracket according to the IPL4 thread. Might mean creator loses against hero or jjakji. Otherwise i dont see why they would submit him as one of their 7 players since these games were played ahead of time as far as i know



Creator has a spot anyways from GSTL so he is going to play in the Open either way, and Hero is playing the Open Bracket as well. Not a spoiler, as the only difference would be that they would get some additional cash for winning the tournament and have their travel expenses covered.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
April 02 2012 18:55 GMT
#27
Hoping Jjakji wins just because the other two possible teams are all going to be at IPL 4 anyway.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 18:56:44
April 02 2012 18:56 GMT
#28
jjakji wins this. It's hard to win both series as jjakji gets two lives with the double elimination format.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 02 2012 19:09 GMT
#29
On April 03 2012 03:55 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Hoping Jjakji wins just because the other two possible teams are all going to be at IPL 4 anyway.


Yeah, this for me is a huge luxury problem. Love HerO and never want him to lose, but it would be incredibly neat to get to see Jjakji in Las Vegas.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 02 2012 19:13 GMT
#30
I like how more people are voting for HerO despite him being 3-0'ed by Creator in the Upper Bracket, no bias at all there

Jjakji should take this regardless of opposition though I feel, although Creator is more than capable of beating him as well.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
April 02 2012 19:23 GMT
#31
Jjakji to win so we can see his handsome self at IPL4.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
April 02 2012 19:29 GMT
#32
Yesterday, when the winners bracket finals were played, Nazgul commended Jjakji for his play. And a while ago, before Taeja was even acquired, heosat (TLAF headsponsor guy) when commenting in a thread about Liquid in need of more "Terrans/Protoss" said on Reddit that they "are aware and are working on a solution or two". Something in the works here?

But then again it would be 10 Liquid players going into IPL4 and HayprO would have been wrong.

Either way, hoping for some great games tonight!
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
April 02 2012 19:31 GMT
#33
protoss fighting
:-)
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12770 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 19:42:58
April 02 2012 19:39 GMT
#34
Creator GOGO WIN THEM ALL =D
you can do it, you can beat Jjakji just play as good as in teamleague
Hero you've already beaten him imo
edit : oh the winner has a ticket to IPL?
Gogo Jjakji then but with Creator putting a good showing :D
WriterMaru
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
April 02 2012 19:43 GMT
#35
GOGO HerO!!!
All I do is Stim.
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
April 02 2012 19:45 GMT
#36
Creator can still take this. His PvP is actually pretty good.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 02 2012 19:47 GMT
#37
On April 03 2012 04:45 MrKn4rz wrote:
Creator can still take this. His PvP is actually pretty good.


His PvP vs HerO in the winner's bracket was stellar. The rematch will be interesting.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
April 02 2012 19:51 GMT
#38
I love hero and liquid, and want to see them win as much as possible, but for this tournament I'm rooting for Jjakji. I think having him at IPL would be excellent.

Although what would be cool is if Hero won and then they gave the trip to Jjakji anyways. I think that would be ideal
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-02 19:53:09
April 02 2012 19:52 GMT
#39
On April 03 2012 04:29 Proseat wrote:
Yesterday, when the winners bracket finals were played, Nazgul commended Jjakji for his play. And a while ago, before Taeja was even acquired, heosat (TLAF headsponsor guy) when commenting in a thread about Liquid in need of more "Terrans/Protoss" said on Reddit that they "are aware and are working on a solution or two". Something in the works here?

But then again it would be 10 Liquid players going into IPL4 and HayprO would have been wrong.

Either way, hoping for some great games tonight!


NSHoseo would take a big hit, and I wouldn't like that. It'll be great for Liquid, but Liquid is already a team with strong finances. If I remember correctly, NSHoseo definitely isn't a rich team by any means, and losing their ace and only GSL champion could really hurt them. The benefit to Liquid would probably be less than the blow to NSHoseo.

But this is all speculation anyways, and I think the posts were referring to Taeja. Go Jjakji!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
April 02 2012 20:29 GMT
#40
On April 03 2012 03:42 ragnorr wrote:
Posible IPL spoiler? Do not open the spoiler link if you dont want to be spoiled

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 03 2012 02:13 IGNProLeague wrote:
Prime
Annyung
GhostKing
Creator
BumbleBee
BBoongBBong
Classic
Maru


Submitted for open bracket according to the IPL4 thread. Might mean creator loses against hero or jjakji. Otherwise i dont see why they would submit him as one of their 7 players since these games were played ahead of time as far as i know


+ Show Spoiler +
yeah hero said on his stream last night to one of his real ID friends he had IPL match soon...and IPL replays are only a day old... =/
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 02 2012 20:32 GMT
#41
On April 03 2012 04:52 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 04:29 Proseat wrote:
Yesterday, when the winners bracket finals were played, Nazgul commended Jjakji for his play. And a while ago, before Taeja was even acquired, heosat (TLAF headsponsor guy) when commenting in a thread about Liquid in need of more "Terrans/Protoss" said on Reddit that they "are aware and are working on a solution or two". Something in the works here?

But then again it would be 10 Liquid players going into IPL4 and HayprO would have been wrong.

Either way, hoping for some great games tonight!


NSHoseo would take a big hit, and I wouldn't like that. It'll be great for Liquid, but Liquid is already a team with strong finances. If I remember correctly, NSHoseo definitely isn't a rich team by any means, and losing their ace and only GSL champion could really hurt them. The benefit to Liquid would probably be less than the blow to NSHoseo.

But this is all speculation anyways, and I think the posts were referring to Taeja. Go Jjakji!


It would also make for a hilarious trend of some Liquid member dropping some off hand comment completely unrelated to signings and it coming true. Next we will have HotBid photo bombing unsuspecting ESFI reporters wearing aviators where you can barely, just barely see the name of the next signing.

So no, Jjakji will stay and hopefully NSHoseo will continue to grow as a team. Would love to see a resurgence of Sage and see Seal establish a foothold as a top 5 Zerg in the upcoming GSLs. So many interesting prospects and a really different type of Korean team when looking at it from the outside.
LemonyTang
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom428 Posts
April 02 2012 21:21 GMT
#42
JJAKJI FIGHTINGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!
Mvp #1
Frostlone
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia75 Posts
April 02 2012 21:24 GMT
#43
Poll: Who do you want to win?

JJackji (17)
 
45%

HerO (15)
 
39%

Creator (6)
 
16%

38 total votes

Your vote: Who do you want to win?

(Vote): Creator
(Vote): HerO
(Vote): JJackji


Personally I'm going for HerO but I think any of these players are deserving of victory.
Ebzy
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom153 Posts
April 02 2012 21:57 GMT
#44
How did it get 2 p and 1 t when there was like 50 (slight exaggeration) terran's originally O.o
Demuslim, TLO, D.Appolo <3
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
April 02 2012 21:57 GMT
#45
Hero fighting. Can't wait to see the rematch of Creator v Hero :D
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
April 02 2012 22:14 GMT
#46
On April 03 2012 06:57 Ebzy wrote:
How did it get 2 p and 1 t when there was like 50 (slight exaggeration) terran's originally O.o


Jjakji chan unleashed his roundhouse kick!
Team NSHoseo <3
rewired
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada630 Posts
April 02 2012 22:15 GMT
#47
Year of Liquid C'mon Hero can do it!!
The road isn't always straight.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
April 02 2012 22:25 GMT
#48
On April 03 2012 06:24 Frostlone wrote:
Poll: Who do you want to win?

JJackji (17)
 
45%

HerO (15)
 
39%

Creator (6)
 
16%

38 total votes

Your vote: Who do you want to win?

(Vote): Creator
(Vote): HerO
(Vote): JJackji


Personally I'm going for HerO but I think any of these players are deserving of victory.

Is it really that hard to get the name Jjakji right? -_-
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
April 02 2012 22:36 GMT
#49
Give me an H - AICH!
Give me an E - EEE!
Give me an R - ARRR!
Give me an O - OHHH!

What does that spell!?!?! HERRROOOOO!!!!!

Go go go HerO! Losers bracket comeback win =D
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
April 02 2012 23:12 GMT
#50
god bless IPL, our daily blessing of sc2 <3
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
April 02 2012 23:17 GMT
#51
AICHEEEARRROHHH hwaiting!
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
April 02 2012 23:42 GMT
#52
Hero, remember, mass stalkers against Creator!!! Try not to 4 gate rush then get FFd at the ramp!!
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
April 03 2012 00:03 GMT
#53
if hero beats creator hes gonna win the tourney, gogo hero!
beep boop
IGNProLeague
Profile Joined April 2011
1184 Posts
April 03 2012 00:03 GMT
#54
Stream is live! http://www.ign.com/ipl
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 03 2012 00:08 GMT
#55
gogo creator~
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
ydeer1993
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom569 Posts
April 03 2012 00:08 GMT
#56
come on jjakiji!! want you to go IPL
**MMA** - MVP - Seed !
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 03 2012 00:11 GMT
#57
On April 03 2012 09:08 ydeer1993 wrote:
come on jjakiji!! want you to go IPL


Turn that frown upside down!

He gets to face Protoss in the finals and he has two Bo5s to do it in. It is not a lock, but it would surprise me not to see Jjakji at IPL4.
jeeneeus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1168 Posts
April 03 2012 00:12 GMT
#58
Hero > Creator
Jjakji > Hero
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
April 03 2012 00:13 GMT
#59
WHY DO YOU EXPAND VS CREATOR?!?!! he did this to you last time.....
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 00:15:26
April 03 2012 00:15 GMT
#60
Hmm if Creator takes this, there actually aren't all that many more notable Prime players to go along too haha.
Salmosa? haha
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xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
April 03 2012 00:15 GMT
#61
creator has done this to hero 3 times before. Hero , you must not FE against creator
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 00:17:01
April 03 2012 00:16 GMT
#62
DTs! Or maybe archons.

Update: Nevermind, going for collosus.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
April 03 2012 00:17 GMT
#63
calling it, hero lost this game. seen this last series. collosus < mass blink stalker
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
April 03 2012 00:17 GMT
#64
HerO being HerO, expanding and falling behind. Standard.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
April 03 2012 00:18 GMT
#65
whelp hero doing the same build and getting strongly build order countered lol
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 00:20:44
April 03 2012 00:19 GMT
#66
Creators immortal count is scary

Just kill the nexus creator >_>
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
April 03 2012 00:20 GMT
#67
Creator not putting his zealots/archons in front :<
Team NSHoseo <3
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
April 03 2012 00:21 GMT
#68
so frustrating when hero falls to the same strat game after game
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
April 03 2012 00:23 GMT
#69
God creator is losing an unlosable game with terrible engagements
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
April 03 2012 00:24 GMT
#70
wait wat....-_-
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
April 03 2012 00:24 GMT
#71
superb micro and positioning from Hero
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 03 2012 00:24 GMT
#72
Wow.

Cannot believe that just happened. What in the hell in the fuck?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
April 03 2012 00:25 GMT
#73
What...PvP...
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 00:27:14
April 03 2012 00:25 GMT
#74
This game is so weird, but such bad engagements by creator, should have won this 10 minutes ago.

On April 03 2012 09:26 7mk wrote:
wtf, I cant watch the games, the stream is bugging out, all i see is a frozen pic

use the pop-out player.
Team NSHoseo <3
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
April 03 2012 00:26 GMT
#75
wtf, I cant watch the games, the stream is bugging out, all i see is a frozen pic
beep boop
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 03 2012 00:26 GMT
#76
wow so swingy
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xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
April 03 2012 00:27 GMT
#77
k i have no idea what just happened...
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1144 Posts
April 03 2012 00:27 GMT
#78
Lol @PvP.
Mutation complete.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 03 2012 00:27 GMT
#79
Damn PvP is volatile.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
April 03 2012 00:27 GMT
#80
i... what..
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 03 2012 00:27 GMT
#81
What was this game? Seriously...
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
April 03 2012 00:27 GMT
#82
upgrades won that
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
April 03 2012 00:27 GMT
#83
chargelots countering mass colossus :p haha wow what a game!
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 03 2012 00:27 GMT
#84
On April 03 2012 09:24 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Wow.

Cannot believe that just happened. What in the hell in the fuck?

And again.

I don't get PvP. At all.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
April 03 2012 00:27 GMT
#85
nice pvp
All I do is Stim.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 03 2012 00:27 GMT
#86
On April 03 2012 09:24 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Wow.

Cannot believe that just happened. What in the hell in the fuck?


Will always, always adore Day9 for that saying. Have friends not at all interested in SC2 enjoying it, and by extension Day9 as well.

Gogo HerO!
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 00:28:34
April 03 2012 00:27 GMT
#87
On April 03 2012 09:27 Grampz wrote:
upgrades won that

Creators army was also more powerfull in the engagement in the middle, hero allowed his colossus to get flanked by zealots and archons.

But really creator, you should have won that game 10 mins earlier
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
April 03 2012 00:28 GMT
#88
Think upgraded units, especially chargelots, killed HerO.
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
April 03 2012 00:28 GMT
#89
Honestly that was the first PvP game I've seen that has gone into the late game stage. Really back and forth between the two players. Although sad HerO lost the first match
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
April 03 2012 00:29 GMT
#90
hero don't you dare FE
tianGO
Profile Joined August 2010
Argentina591 Posts
April 03 2012 00:30 GMT
#91
I wonder why this is not featured in teamliquidpro.com, I had no idea Hero was in the losers final.
"He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future."
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
April 03 2012 00:31 GMT
#92
The battle cry of every Creator fan...genius...
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 03 2012 00:33 GMT
#93
On April 03 2012 09:30 tianGO wrote:
I wonder why this is not featured in teamliquidpro.com, I had no idea Hero was in the losers final.


This tournament has pretty consistently not been featured on TL pro. Regardless of HerO's success or failure, so not reading too much into it.
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
April 03 2012 00:34 GMT
#94
Go Hero!
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 03 2012 00:42 GMT
#95
wow creator~
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 03 2012 00:42 GMT
#96
Creator with brilliant moves.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 03 2012 00:42 GMT
#97
HerO getting pretty hardcore outclassed. Which makes me sad tt.
AysiktiriX
Profile Joined June 2011
358 Posts
April 03 2012 00:42 GMT
#98
Wow, Creator so smart.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
April 03 2012 00:42 GMT
#99
HerO just doesn't have an answer to Creator; no matter how much of an advantage he gets early game, HerO just gets rolled eventually
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 00:43:39
April 03 2012 00:43 GMT
#100
Wow, Creator is fucking brilliant.

I wish he would mix in some aggression in PvT to be more unpredictable. He has the micro to do so.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
April 03 2012 00:43 GMT
#101
damn T_T
creator just seems to have HerOs number in this matchup
beep boop
beatitudes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States167 Posts
April 03 2012 00:43 GMT
#102
wow creater pretty pvp baller
<3
RUS RO DAH!!!
Profile Joined February 2012
United States277 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 00:47:37
April 03 2012 00:43 GMT
#103
Sweet. Hero is getting a beatdown.

Still hate p v p tho.
Probasaur
Profile Joined August 2011
United States461 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 00:44:18
April 03 2012 00:44 GMT
#104
Ah man I saw that disaster happening in slow motion, totally had a louis ck moment there. I tried yelling out SENTRY BEING DROPPED THEN HE'LL BLINK IN AND FF YOU OUT NBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

All I got out was..... BAD THING!!!!
"He who makes a beast of himself.... gets rid of the pain of being a man" -Hunter S Thompson.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
April 03 2012 00:44 GMT
#105
Creator's blink micro just seems to be better than heros.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 03 2012 00:45 GMT
#106
On April 03 2012 09:43 beatitudes wrote:
wow creater pretty pvp baller


It is kind of interesting, because I have seen him play some pretty sorry PvPs against players HerO pretty consistently will beat. Not sure whether that has been nerves by Creator, whether he has improved a lot or whether it is merely a thing where Creator just has what it takes to beat HerO head to head over and over.

Some pretty damn good PvP play in general from Creator though. He could be so good if he shores up some of the few weaknesses he has.
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
April 03 2012 00:45 GMT
#107
Awesome decision making and micro by creator, even the stalkers blinking into his base was handled really well.
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 03 2012 00:45 GMT
#108
I guess this makes at least a bit of sense. Hero's PvP in Korea is sub-50%, but Creator's PvP isn't too impressive honestly either.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ItchyLegs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada369 Posts
April 03 2012 00:46 GMT
#109
Thorzain won 1 bo5 and got 5/6th in this tournament. WTF
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 03 2012 00:47 GMT
#110
On April 03 2012 09:45 Bagration wrote:
I guess this makes at least a bit of sense. Hero's PvP in Korea is sub-50%, but Creator's PvP isn't too impressive honestly either.


On the other hand, I think most of HerO's Korean stats are slightly outdated by now. His Korean vT is certainly way lower than the skill he seems to possess in that matchup at the moment. But yeah, neither of them have stats to be PvP gods or anything, on the other hand the play by itself by Creator has been absolutely gorgeous and very clutch.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 03 2012 00:47 GMT
#111
On April 03 2012 09:46 ItchyLegs wrote:
Thorzain won 1 bo5 and got 5/6th in this tournament. WTF


That one guy won a Bo3 and found himself in Code A :p

Walkovers happen :|
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
April 03 2012 00:47 GMT
#112
Hero pulling an MC
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 00:50:45
April 03 2012 00:50 GMT
#113
Wow, Creator. Sexy, sexy, sexy.

Creator 6-0s Hero and defends a blind 2 gate in base.
RUS RO DAH!!!
Profile Joined February 2012
United States277 Posts
April 03 2012 00:50 GMT
#114
Hero getting desperate and cheesing.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 03 2012 00:50 GMT
#115
gg creator 6-0 hero wow
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Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
April 03 2012 00:50 GMT
#116
Wow. 6-0 sweep :D

Well done Creator.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
April 03 2012 00:50 GMT
#117
wow hero just cant beat creator
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
April 03 2012 00:50 GMT
#118
creator is just the counter to herO.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 03 2012 00:50 GMT
#119
Pure tilt. Not that I can blame him for that. Good games by Creator.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
April 03 2012 00:50 GMT
#120
Sigh. What a stomp
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
gradotude
Profile Joined October 2009
United States196 Posts
April 03 2012 00:50 GMT
#121
did you guys see that zealot micro from creator?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 03 2012 00:50 GMT
#122
Creator has good PvP.

Hero
Probasaur
Profile Joined August 2011
United States461 Posts
April 03 2012 00:51 GMT
#123
Well won Creator, always one of the most impressive Protoss in the land.
"He who makes a beast of himself.... gets rid of the pain of being a man" -Hunter S Thompson.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 03 2012 00:51 GMT
#124
Wow, 6-0. Hero needs to hope that he doesn't meet Creator in the IPL Opens
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
CygnusAres
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore893 Posts
April 03 2012 00:51 GMT
#125
wow HerO just got 6-0'ed...
"I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul" - Invictus. Favorite Players: TaeJa, Bogus, and Zest, Fighting!
Ricemagical
Profile Joined November 2010
270 Posts
April 03 2012 00:51 GMT
#126
poor hero, but i feel like creator needed that win more than hero did
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
April 03 2012 00:51 GMT
#127
hopefully HerO saving the good stuff for IPL4
Serek
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom459 Posts
April 03 2012 00:51 GMT
#128
That was some very good zealot micro by Creator.
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
April 03 2012 00:52 GMT
#129
his kryptonite indeed
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
April 03 2012 00:52 GMT
#130
Creator -_-
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
April 03 2012 00:52 GMT
#131
Didn't Jjakji 3-0 creator in the winner's final already? He should really take this no problem.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 03 2012 00:52 GMT
#132
Creator <3

Smart kid.
MosART
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1899 Posts
April 03 2012 00:52 GMT
#133
Good. HerO has somewhat a chance against Jjakji. Creator got no shot against Jjakji, with two best of fives.
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
April 03 2012 00:52 GMT
#134
Perfect defense by Creator
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
Aemilia
Profile Joined March 2012
344 Posts
April 03 2012 00:52 GMT
#135
PvP is just so odd.

Usually when I've seen Creator in PvP I've thought it was pretty meh, especially compared to his PvT but then he wins 6-0 against a guy with good PvP which is some feet in such a luck based matchup.
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
April 03 2012 00:52 GMT
#136
On April 03 2012 09:52 redviper wrote:
Didn't Jjakji 3-0 creator in the winner's final already? He should really take this no problem.


3-1, but yeah lets hope so!
Team NSHoseo <3
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
April 03 2012 00:53 GMT
#137
Sometimes it's frustrating to watch PvP.

Oh well, nice play from Creator.
Aemilia
Profile Joined March 2012
344 Posts
April 03 2012 00:53 GMT
#138
On April 03 2012 09:52 MosART wrote:
Good. HerO has somewhat a chance against Jjakji. Creator got no shot against Jjakji, with two best of fives.


Creator has definitely got better PvT than Hero.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
April 03 2012 00:53 GMT
#139
Lets go Jjakji, want to see him get to IPL4!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 03 2012 00:54 GMT
#140
awesome pic of creator haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
April 03 2012 00:54 GMT
#141
I don't understand PvP.
All I do is Stim.
Aemilia
Profile Joined March 2012
344 Posts
April 03 2012 00:54 GMT
#142
Come on Jjakji. I love Creator but he's already going to IPL 4.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 03 2012 00:55 GMT
#143
nice proxy, workers are just an op defense at the start lol.
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
April 03 2012 00:55 GMT
#144
On April 03 2012 09:52 MosART wrote:
Good. HerO has somewhat a chance against Jjakji. Creator got no shot against Jjakji, with two best of fives.


lol wut?
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
April 03 2012 00:56 GMT
#145
I have to say Jjakji's game were so so so insane it is hard to say what will happen now. I hope jjakji can win since he is awesome and should be at ipl4!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 03 2012 00:56 GMT
#146
Time to root for Jjakji. Come on boy, make your team proud.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
April 03 2012 00:58 GMT
#147
On April 03 2012 09:52 MosART wrote:
Good. HerO has somewhat a chance against Jjakji. Creator got no shot against Jjakji, with two best of fives.

Lol i would say Creator's PvT is definitely better than HerO's

Jjakji pulled some crazy shit last time; i guess letting Creator get to late game is insanity. I hope we see some cool builds again from Jjakji :p
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 03 2012 00:58 GMT
#148
Come on Creator, I tipped you to win this from the beginning.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Hypertension
Profile Joined April 2011
United States802 Posts
April 03 2012 00:59 GMT
#149
Jajki is pretty good.
Buy boots first. Boots good item.
CygnusAres
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 01:00:38
April 03 2012 01:00 GMT
#150
+ Show Spoiler +
If you look at liquidpedia for IPL open bracket, there's already jjakji on the open bracket player list.
"I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul" - Invictus. Favorite Players: TaeJa, Bogus, and Zest, Fighting!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 03 2012 01:01 GMT
#151
Jjakji's 3rd finished before Creator's natural
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 03 2012 01:05 GMT
#152
On April 03 2012 10:00 CygnusAres wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
If you look at liquidpedia for IPL open bracket, there's already jjakji on the open bracket player list.


not anymore :p
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
April 03 2012 01:06 GMT
#153
On April 03 2012 10:00 CygnusAres wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
If you look at liquidpedia for IPL open bracket, there's already jjakji on the open bracket player list.


+ Show Spoiler +
I don't know what page you checked, but I don't find Jjakji on any IPL 4 open bracket players list
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 03 2012 01:08 GMT
#154
On April 03 2012 09:58 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 09:52 MosART wrote:
Good. HerO has somewhat a chance against Jjakji. Creator got no shot against Jjakji, with two best of fives.

Lol i would say Creator's PvT is definitely better than HerO's

Jjakji pulled some crazy shit last time; i guess letting Creator get to late game is insanity. I hope we see some cool builds again from Jjakji :p


On the other hand, the one game in their previous match that went late game Jjakji absolutely smashed Creator. That was mostly down to just one piss poor engagement from Creator though, so it does not tell us that much. But I would not just say that late game is favoring Creator no matter what here, Jjakji is good at the matchup too, cheese or no cheese.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 03 2012 01:09 GMT
#155
Holy Jjakji, soooo good vP Creator doesn't really look on his A game though
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 01:12:07
April 03 2012 01:09 GMT
#156
Shit that was a terrible engagement. If Creator goes now he might make it.

edit: And that 2nd engagement was just amazingly well done.
woob
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1322 Posts
April 03 2012 01:12 GMT
#157
wow, amazing engagement form jjakji

wish i would enter a fight like that
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ez
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 03 2012 01:12 GMT
#158
On April 03 2012 10:09 redviper wrote:
Shit that was a terrible engagement. If Creator goes now he might make it.


Its too hard to toss to engage up that 3rd ramp, Jjakji had good positioning so Creator couldn't really make the most of that horrific engage. One of the reasons I dislike this map.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
AysiktiriX
Profile Joined June 2011
358 Posts
April 03 2012 01:13 GMT
#159
Wow... Doa said it well - "one of the most one-sided battles I've seen".
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 03 2012 01:13 GMT
#160
LOL artosis pylon what
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 01:14:13
April 03 2012 01:13 GMT
#161
Jjakji so good at abusing the lack of mobility of the Protoss deathball compared to the Terran army (not sarcasm, it was a great engagement)

Bio just looks so strong vs toss in the hands of someone with good control like Jjakji or MKP
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 03 2012 01:14 GMT
#162
Beautiful TvP by Jjakji. Even unpowered 3 gates with SCVs
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
April 03 2012 01:14 GMT
#163
SCVs depowering 3 gateways - that is amazing!

Jjakji getting away with a fast 3rd CC :\
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
April 03 2012 01:14 GMT
#164
Hero SCVs :D
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 03 2012 01:14 GMT
#165
On April 03 2012 10:13 Shaddar wrote:
Jjakji so good at abusing the lack of mobility of the Protoss deathball compared to the Terran army (not sarcasm, it was a great engagement)


I think we all know it is hard for Terran to do this. But Jjakji is definitely good at it. What a beautiful player. xxx
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
April 03 2012 01:14 GMT
#166
That SCV pylon kill should be the number 1 play of the week. It was unfuckingbelivable.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
April 03 2012 01:15 GMT
#167
On April 03 2012 10:14 redviper wrote:
That SCV pylon kill should be the number 1 play of the week. It was unfuckingbelivable.

Yeah, first time in a promatch i have seen the scvs being sacked actully do damage
jeeneeus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1168 Posts
April 03 2012 01:15 GMT
#168
Which other champion besides FruitDealer is not gonna be at IPL?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 03 2012 01:16 GMT
#169
On April 03 2012 10:15 jeeneeus wrote:
Which other champion besides FruitDealer is not gonna be at IPL?


DRG
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
April 03 2012 01:16 GMT
#170
Jjakji's so good, when he wants to clear supply up the enemy gateways go down.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
April 03 2012 01:16 GMT
#171
On April 03 2012 10:15 jeeneeus wrote:
Which other champion besides FruitDealer is not gonna be at IPL?


DRG.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
April 03 2012 01:16 GMT
#172
I thought DRG was going no? Earlier they said all the champs but FD but perhaps it was before the GSTL semifinals.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 03 2012 01:16 GMT
#173
On April 03 2012 10:15 jeeneeus wrote:
Which other champion besides FruitDealer is not gonna be at IPL?


Just Fruitdealer iirc. If jjakji wins this >.>
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 03 2012 01:17 GMT
#174
On April 03 2012 10:16 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 10:15 jeeneeus wrote:
Which other champion besides FruitDealer is not gonna be at IPL?


DRG.


I thought DRG was going to attend, no?
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Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
April 03 2012 01:17 GMT
#175
On April 03 2012 10:17 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 10:16 Serinox wrote:
On April 03 2012 10:15 jeeneeus wrote:
Which other champion besides FruitDealer is not gonna be at IPL?


DRG.


I thought DRG was going to attend, no?


He unfortunately had to back out of attending.
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Hypertension
Profile Joined April 2011
United States802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 01:18:26
April 03 2012 01:18 GMT
#176
Jjakji really outmicro'd Creator in the last battle. Creator had so many stalkers and archons, he should never have lost 2 collosi before the battle even starts.
Buy boots first. Boots good item.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
April 03 2012 01:18 GMT
#177
To all the players from "where did the Ts go thread": jjakji dominated a 200/200 battle w/o sick micro.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 03 2012 01:19 GMT
#178
On April 03 2012 10:17 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 10:16 Serinox wrote:
On April 03 2012 10:15 jeeneeus wrote:
Which other champion besides FruitDealer is not gonna be at IPL?


DRG.


I thought DRG was going to attend, no?


I don't think so, as it would have been announced, and the casters just said he wasn't going.
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Aemilia
Profile Joined March 2012
344 Posts
April 03 2012 01:20 GMT
#179
DRG is pretty much the only player you'd really want to be there who isn't.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 01:20:35
April 03 2012 01:20 GMT
#180
On April 03 2012 10:18 -_- wrote:
To all the players from "where did the Ts go thread": jjakji dominated a 200/200 battle w/o sick micro.


W/O sick micro? He sniped in the middle of the battle, he used vikings to kill 4 collo before the real fight even starts through positioning, he dodged storms. What more does he need to do to have sick micro?
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 01:21:47
April 03 2012 01:20 GMT
#181
On April 03 2012 10:18 -_- wrote:
To all the players from "where did the Ts go thread": jjakji dominated a 200/200 battle w/o sick micro.

Jjakji played that game really well tho, he always had a lead and never let it go. He also did some good storm dodges at times and had decent ghost control

Jjakji going for a nice scv train this game i bet
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 03 2012 01:22 GMT
#182
Bomber's been doing this too lately, he usually expands at 4:30 off of 3 rax, works well on ladder but I'd like to see it in a tourney game
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
April 03 2012 01:25 GMT
#183
Wow just tuned in and I see Hero got 6-0'd by Creator. Has anyone ever lost so many times to the same player in one tournament without even taking a single game before?
AysiktiriX
Profile Joined June 2011
358 Posts
April 03 2012 01:25 GMT
#184
Creator with some major blunders...
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
April 03 2012 01:25 GMT
#185
I do this every TvP, the rax -> CC -> 2 more rax -> CC -> gas -> tech lab and stim -> all 4 gas at about 50 supply.

It shall now be known as the EmpireKas RE.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
April 03 2012 01:28 GMT
#186
I saw someone take the islands with dual nydus. What game was that?
jeeneeus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1168 Posts
April 03 2012 01:29 GMT
#187
When Jjakji's drop was at the island I got so excited for a bit
jeeneeus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1168 Posts
April 03 2012 01:34 GMT
#188
Classic no observer with army loss.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 03 2012 01:35 GMT
#189
1 more game. Another great game of TvP.
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Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
April 03 2012 01:35 GMT
#190
jjaki 3 base allin o,o
TSM
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 01:35:32
April 03 2012 01:35 GMT
#191
On April 03 2012 10:34 jeeneeus wrote:
Classic no observer with army loss.

He would have sniped that with the scan + vikings moving in anyway. He did the same yesterday.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
April 03 2012 01:35 GMT
#192
Wow holy shit how the fuck? Jjajki is such a beast lol, I thought he was so so far behind lol
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
April 03 2012 01:35 GMT
#193
thats how you TvP late game folks.
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3613 Posts
April 03 2012 01:35 GMT
#194
Ugh. EMPs are brutal against Creator's constantly clumped units.
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Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
April 03 2012 01:35 GMT
#195
Man Creator is falling apart. Those last two engagements were HORRIBLE.
Pokemonxoxo
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States217 Posts
April 03 2012 01:35 GMT
#196
Creator needs to harass with some warp prism or something. I am getting a little tired of deathball to deathball fights.
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Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
April 03 2012 01:36 GMT
#197
Jjakji's engagement is crazy good.
When the protoss army ran into the natural, I thought Jjakji was in trouble because he was clumped up.
But he uses SCVS to barricade the bottom route, sends a few marine/marauders around to spread fire from colossus, damn.
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
April 03 2012 01:36 GMT
#198
rofl. 2 colossus and 3 templars, and the rest of the army food in zealots.
Equity213
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada873 Posts
April 03 2012 01:36 GMT
#199
IMO Hero had a better shot at beating Jjakji
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
April 03 2012 01:37 GMT
#200
MKP's early-mid game and Jjakji's late game vP are unbelievable.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 03 2012 01:39 GMT
#201
On April 03 2012 10:37 chosenkerrigan wrote:
MKP's early-mid game and Jjakji's late game vP are unbelievable.


Yeah, Jjaking on team Polt would be unstoppable. I really thought he was in trouble when Creator pushed his natural but the sentry EMPs were soooooo good ^^
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RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
April 03 2012 01:40 GMT
#202
Creator doesn't truly need it. The majority of their team will go regardless.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 03 2012 01:40 GMT
#203
On April 03 2012 10:40 RaiKageRyu wrote:
Creator doesn't truly need it. The majority of their team will go regardless.


Yeah but playing for a friend to get in is not exactly a throw away.

Loving Jjakji's TvP. So much beauty in it.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 03 2012 01:41 GMT
#204
That hell was that noise? Lol
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 03 2012 01:42 GMT
#205
ooh 4g
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VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3613 Posts
April 03 2012 01:43 GMT
#206
If a 3CC "RE" holds off a 4-gate, either the 4-gate is a terrible build or the game has serious issues or Creator screwed up badly.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
April 03 2012 01:44 GMT
#207
On April 03 2012 10:43 VGhost wrote:
If a 3CC "RE" holds off a 4-gate, either the 4-gate is a terrible build or the game has serious issues or Creator screwed up badly.

4 gate is a terrible build, 1 bunker in the main holds it easily
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
April 03 2012 01:44 GMT
#208
Ok seriously how could he possibly have known. That was just super gamesense.
Alvis
Profile Joined July 2011
876 Posts
April 03 2012 01:44 GMT
#209
wow how did Jjakji know that
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 03 2012 01:44 GMT
#210
God, that gamesense. It's obscene.
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Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
April 03 2012 01:45 GMT
#211
jjakji is the master
TSM
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 03 2012 01:45 GMT
#212
Starsenses tingling, Creator cannot win at this point unless Jjakji fucks up an incredible amount, he's just so far ahead economically and is beginning his tech at the same time. If it had been a tech allin, Creator would be in a little better of a position but 4 gate vs 3cc...wow
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Seohce
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom394 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 01:45:44
April 03 2012 01:45 GMT
#213
Amazing spider sense from jjakji!
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 01:48:24
April 03 2012 01:47 GMT
#214
5-1 already. He'll go 6-1 if he wins this. Which he will. Go Jjakji!

edit: Ok wtf is with the observor sniping. If he wasn't a pro I'd think he was hacking. That is just fucking ridiculous.
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
April 03 2012 01:47 GMT
#215
Jjakji gonna roll IPL4.

jk jk..MKP would do it.
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
April 03 2012 01:48 GMT
#216
he is so good at spotting the observers omg.. teach me jjakji teach me
TSM
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 03 2012 01:49 GMT
#217
Come on Jjakji! Been waiting to see you in a foreign event for ages!
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VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3613 Posts
April 03 2012 01:50 GMT
#218
jjakji is making Creator look bad, plain and simple.
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ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 01:51:44
April 03 2012 01:51 GMT
#219
On April 03 2012 10:50 VGhost wrote:
jjakji is making Creator look bad, plain and simple.

To be fair, jjakji had a very good lead when creator decided to 4 gate and held it very easy. Game 1/2 was a much better display of skill
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 03 2012 01:51 GMT
#220
On April 03 2012 10:49 bittman wrote:
Come on Jjakji! Been waiting to see you in a foreign event for ages!


Chill, he's got it. There's no way Creator wins six games against Jjakji.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
April 03 2012 01:51 GMT
#221
Man, Jjakji has a maphack in his brain. That observer was not moving when he got in his vision range, I think?
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
April 03 2012 01:53 GMT
#222
domination
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 03 2012 01:53 GMT
#223
Jjakji so good vP.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 03 2012 01:53 GMT
#224
Holy shit Jjakji. You are fucking amazing.
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3613 Posts
April 03 2012 01:53 GMT
#225
Well then. That was impressive.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
LemonyTang
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom428 Posts
April 03 2012 01:53 GMT
#226
Jjakji is so sick. 3-0 vs top 3 (5?) pvt in korea, not even close games.

Perfect player when given room to do his own game
Mvp #1
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 03 2012 01:53 GMT
#227
JJAKJI! What a fucking champ, really happy to see him get a shot in IPL4
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redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
April 03 2012 01:53 GMT
#228
6-1 in the finals. 6-1!!! Jjakji is just fucking awesome. What a set of games!
Kubricks
Profile Joined November 2011
284 Posts
April 03 2012 01:53 GMT
#229
Wish Hero went up against Jjakji...

Oh well, awesome tournament. Can't wait to see these guys at IPL4.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 03 2012 01:54 GMT
#230
WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Jjakji so good, first NSHoSeo player at a foreign event! I'm pumped!
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
April 03 2012 01:54 GMT
#231
Ugh. I shoulda made plans to attend IPL4. Congratulations Jjakji, can't wait to see how he does in Vegas!
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 03 2012 01:55 GMT
#232
Fuck me.

That open bracket deserves to be its own full fledged tournament. Would probably be the most stacked one outside of Korea. So psyched for IPL4. Was a treat to see the ToC ahead of it. <3 <3
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
April 03 2012 01:55 GMT
#233
i always thought jjakji was vastly overrated but he just convinced me vs creator. looking forward to watching him at IPL4
:-)
Probasaur
Profile Joined August 2011
United States461 Posts
April 03 2012 01:56 GMT
#234
Jjakji so good!


Jjakji vs Taeja finals at IPL4 calling it now !!
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
April 03 2012 01:57 GMT
#235
On April 03 2012 10:56 Probasaur wrote:
Jjakji so good!


Jjakji vs Taeja finals at IPL4 calling it now !!


that would be ez win for Taeja.. :p

very impressive games by Jjakji though
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Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States447 Posts
April 03 2012 01:59 GMT
#236
Jjakji is SO IMPRESSIVE. I haven't seen such amazing play in i dont know how long. Amazing one sides series!
NO TEAM WILL EVER BE AS GOOD AS TEAM LIQUID!
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
April 03 2012 02:00 GMT
#237
On April 03 2012 10:56 Probasaur wrote:
Jjakji so good!


Jjakji vs Taeja finals at IPL4 calling it now !!

That would just be one sided in taejas favor, jjakji is known for his terrible TvT. His strengths lie in TvP and TvZ
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 03 2012 02:02 GMT
#238
On April 03 2012 11:00 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 10:56 Probasaur wrote:
Jjakji so good!


Jjakji vs Taeja finals at IPL4 calling it now !!

That would just be one sided in taejas favor, jjakji is known for his terrible TvT. His strengths lie in TvP and TvZ


Taeja's not a big fan of TvT either. It was 3-2 Taeja's favour when they met in Code S
jjakji's TvT is not bad, it's just very timing-based.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 03 2012 02:03 GMT
#239
Congrats Jjakji, enjoy Vegas!
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Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-03 02:05:08
April 03 2012 02:04 GMT
#240
Sick play by jjakji! Cant begin to describe how happy i am to see him get a chance at IPL4!
I wrote a short recap of the grand finals mainly for the Jjakji fanclub but thought i'd post it here aswell incase there is someone who missed the games/dont feel like watching rebroadcast. Tried to enjoy the games at the same time so i surely missed a few things but you get the idea.

On April 03 2012 10:55 Azuroz wrote:

Game 1: Jjakji spawns in the 7 a clock position vs Creator in the 1 a clock position on Cloud Kingdom.
Creator opens up with a safe and rather late first expansion, Jjakji goes for a double command center build pretty early on.
Jjakji manages to get a few good drops during the mid-game aswell as getting a cancel on Creator's third base.
The lategame composition is bio/ghost/vikings for JJ and Colossi/Archon/gateway units for Creator. Jjakji manages to win a few crucial engagements due to having a slight upgrade advantage and landing good EMP's.
Jjakji somehow manages to depower 3 gateways with a few scv's that he sent into Creator's main to get rid of supply for units, Jjakji's supply advantage is too high and with yet another base going down, Creator is forced to GG

1-0 NSHoseo Jjakji.

Game 2: Creator spawns in the 9 a clock position vs Jjakji in the 3 a clock position on Metropolis.
Jjakji opens up 3 rax and Creator goes for a 1-gate expand but Creator is not responding to the unusually high marine count.
Jjakji pulls a few scv's and builds a bunker at Creator's natural and with a bad forcefield Creator traps himself into his own main. However Creator holds off the push and Jjakji is in an economic disadvantage as Creator goes for a quick third.
Creator then goes for double forge while Jjakji is only upgrading with a single engineering bay, leaving Jjakji one upgrade behind for the time being.
A small force of Jjakji is caught in the middle of the map, and at the exact moment Jjakji drops 3 medivacs into Creator's main with about an even trade on both ends. Jjakji forces a cancel on Creator's fourth with a drop, this triggers Creator to attack and Jjakji gets in a good position with his vikings and takes out all the colossi and archons before Creator retreats, how ever due to the early economic disadvantage for Jjakji he is still slightly behind on supply.
Jjakji forces an engagement on Creator's side of the map with their main armies, cloaked ghosts and viking get in perfect positions and the colossi does almost instantly along with emp on the whole army, jjakji crushes through the zealots and Creator GG's!

2-0 NSHoseo Jjakji.

Game 3: Jjakji spawn in the top and Creator spawns in the bottom on Daybreak.
Creator goes for a 4-gate opening on 1 base while Jjakji goes for a double CC again!
Jjakji somehow gets a read on creator without even scouting the gateways and starts building bunkers on the highground.
Creator retreats and takes his natural, but obviously behind due to the agressive opening that was completely shut down.
Creator goes for a third and gets double forges at the same time, Jjakji scouts it and decides to drop the main and go for an attack on the third at the same time.
The drop acts mainly as a distraction and Jjakji crushes Creator's third base and is up by 30 supply. Jjakji goes for a head on attack at Creator's natural, it ends up in an advantage for Creator and he closes the supply gap by slightly.
Despite the early double forges, Jjakji is still slightly ahead on upgrades.
Jjakji goes for another engagement at the third of Creator, but Jjakji's army is just too big and Creator is forced to GG!

3-0 NSHoseo Jjakji.

Team NSHoseo <3
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
April 03 2012 02:07 GMT
#241
Although I think HerO could have made the finals much more closer, still gg's from Jjakji and Creator
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Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 03 2012 02:12 GMT
#242
On April 03 2012 11:07 SwizzY wrote:
Although I think HerO could have made the finals much more closer, still gg's from Jjakji and Creator


All three players today had some ridiculous games in the tournament. Is so nice to see Koreans playing on Korea server, was a bit ESV Korean Weekly'esque, with less adventurous maps but more star power. All in all I have really, really enjoyed the tournament. And it is amazing to have Jjakji ending up taking the spot for IPL4. What a marvelous event that is shaping up to be.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
April 03 2012 02:18 GMT
#243
herO would have made a better games for sure, he doesn't turtle as hard as Creator. Creator played exactly how Jj wanted him to.
Kubricks
Profile Joined November 2011
284 Posts
April 03 2012 02:37 GMT
#244
I have a feeling IPL4 is going to crush MLG in viewership with the excitement that's building up around both the Open Bracket and Pool Play for it.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 03 2012 02:50 GMT
#245
grats jjakji! creator is already going to ipl4 anyways so it's all good
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midftw
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada170 Posts
April 03 2012 02:50 GMT
#246
On April 03 2012 11:37 Kubricks wrote:
I have a feeling IPL4 is going to crush MLG in viewership with the excitement that's building up around both the Open Bracket and Pool Play for it.


are you sherlock holmes' descendant? ipl has over 5 times mlg's prize pool and that alone guarantees your statement. it would be a feeling if the tournaments had a similar prizepool and you're actually risking something. All you're doing is saying something obvious and that you have a feeling that it will happen.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 03 2012 03:08 GMT
#247
On April 03 2012 11:07 SwizzY wrote:
Although I think HerO could have made the finals much more closer, still gg's from Jjakji and Creator


Maybe, but we'll never know for sure. But Jjakji's play today was amazing, I don't think Hero could have done much against it either.
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Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 03 2012 03:15 GMT
#248
On April 03 2012 12:08 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 11:07 SwizzY wrote:
Although I think HerO could have made the finals much more closer, still gg's from Jjakji and Creator


Maybe, but we'll never know for sure. But Jjakji's play today was amazing, I don't think Hero could have done much against it either.


Jjakji's TvP certainly looked a cut above just above any Protoss I can think of at the moment. Perhaps someone not playing for a standard Protoss three base style would fare better, as much as TvP late game can look ugly for Terran, Jjakji makes it look Terran favored with such gorgeous positioning and engagements. Going heavy Colossi certainly looks ugly against him.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 03 2012 03:50 GMT
#249
On April 03 2012 12:15 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 12:08 Bagration wrote:
On April 03 2012 11:07 SwizzY wrote:
Although I think HerO could have made the finals much more closer, still gg's from Jjakji and Creator


Maybe, but we'll never know for sure. But Jjakji's play today was amazing, I don't think Hero could have done much against it either.


Jjakji's TvP certainly looked a cut above just above any Protoss I can think of at the moment. Perhaps someone not playing for a standard Protoss three base style would fare better, as much as TvP late game can look ugly for Terran, Jjakji makes it look Terran favored with such gorgeous positioning and engagements. Going heavy Colossi certainly looks ugly against him.


Yeah Jjakji's TvP has got to be one of the best in starcraft 2 currently. Can probably make a good debate of whether Jjakji or MKP have the current best TvP in the metagame, I don't know if any other terran players do so well at TvP in recent form? Polt and Thorzain used to be unstoppable in TvP and now, though still good, I probably wouldn't bet on them on MU alone regardless of the opponent like I would Jjakji or MKP. Maybe Puma.

Is there anyone else at this level in TvP you guys can identify? ELO has Bomber, alive, Supernova and Taeja up there, but imo both Bomber and Supernova's TvP has fallen from it's previous level. Supernova did top his group with just TvP but still.
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Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
April 03 2012 04:13 GMT
#250
On April 03 2012 12:50 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2012 12:15 Porcelina wrote:
On April 03 2012 12:08 Bagration wrote:
On April 03 2012 11:07 SwizzY wrote:
Although I think HerO could have made the finals much more closer, still gg's from Jjakji and Creator


Maybe, but we'll never know for sure. But Jjakji's play today was amazing, I don't think Hero could have done much against it either.


Jjakji's TvP certainly looked a cut above just above any Protoss I can think of at the moment. Perhaps someone not playing for a standard Protoss three base style would fare better, as much as TvP late game can look ugly for Terran, Jjakji makes it look Terran favored with such gorgeous positioning and engagements. Going heavy Colossi certainly looks ugly against him.


Yeah Jjakji's TvP has got to be one of the best in starcraft 2 currently. Can probably make a good debate of whether Jjakji or MKP have the current best TvP in the metagame, I don't know if any other terran players do so well at TvP in recent form? Polt and Thorzain used to be unstoppable in TvP and now, though still good, I probably wouldn't bet on them on MU alone regardless of the opponent like I would Jjakji or MKP. Maybe Puma.

Is there anyone else at this level in TvP you guys can identify? ELO has Bomber, alive, Supernova and Taeja up there, but imo both Bomber and Supernova's TvP has fallen from it's previous level. Supernova did top his group with just TvP but still.


Not sure how I would rank players in TvP right now. I do however feel that the matchup is in a state of flux; in my estimation it has been set back greatly when it comes to actual development due to the six months of 1-1-1 being so prevalent in Korea. Whereas just about every other matchup being developed and maturing during that time, TvP late game was largely unexplored and seemed very Protoss favored in many ways.

I think it will still take some time for us to get the full picture of what is going on there. Jjakji's late game and MKP's early to midgame certainly look very strong; it seems as if many of the things that made Terran look very susceptible to both early game pressure and late game domination by Protoss have been largely counteracted by two different styles. At the very highest level, I think we need to see Protoss develop even more to contest with MKP and Jjakji for sure. Which means more babysitting of the deathball, better micro and positioning as well as other things that will come with experimentation and maturing.

As much as TvP sometimes holds true to the stereotype of having one deciding battle and the losing side never recovering, I am not convinced that will be the ultimate fate of the matchup. It might still be the case of course, but I am very much thinking that, as players become better in all aspects of the game, we will see a lot more coming out of both sides. Certainly it is good to see people with extreme skill sets such as Jjakji's positioning and micro in end game confrontations and MKP's early game aggression transitioning into midgame harass and never letting the Protoss really breathe come to a forefront. I would very much hope at least that we will see the games where both sides just macro up to three bases and one side wins will be forgotten in good time.

Just kind of amazed by both Jjakji and MKP at the moment. And feel very happy to see such strong play emerge in a matchup that so often feels very uneventful and largely lopsided.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
April 03 2012 04:20 GMT
#251
On April 03 2012 11:50 songohan wrote:
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On April 03 2012 11:37 Kubricks wrote:
I have a feeling IPL4 is going to crush MLG in viewership with the excitement that's building up around both the Open Bracket and Pool Play for it.


are you sherlock holmes' descendant? ipl has over 5 times mlg's prize pool and that alone guarantees your statement. it would be a feeling if the tournaments had a similar prizepool and you're actually risking something. All you're doing is saying something obvious and that you have a feeling that it will happen.


Prize pool means very little, it matters who's coming. MLG was killer last year in the excitement it brought. It's waned down so much, for me at least. And that was back when the winner only got $5k.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
April 03 2012 04:34 GMT
#252
Ha, just looked at Jjakji's facebook and on Saturday his status was along the lines of "I am going to Las Vegas!" (in korean of course). Silly Jjakji trying to spoil the results.
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38198 Posts
April 03 2012 08:15 GMT
#253
Flawless victory!

Oh man I'm so happy for Jjakji, hope he enjoys himself and manages to make a good run. He played one hell of a tournament here at least =)
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
April 03 2012 08:23 GMT
#254
Just watched the games. Jjakji has by far the best TvP I've seen so far. Sick decision-making, great macro/micro, rarely picks a bad fight.

What a boss
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NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
April 03 2012 08:28 GMT
#255
yeah, forgot that Creator already has ticket to IPL4.
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Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
April 03 2012 14:50 GMT
#256
On April 03 2012 10:54 StarVe wrote:
WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Jjakji so good, first NSHoSeo player at a foreign event! I'm pumped!


Nope, San was at MLG arena, but he didn't do that well
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 03 2012 20:15 GMT
#257
Just saw the rebroadcast.
I still can't understand how Jjakji guessed for the 4gate.
It's just.. what tip him off ? I just can't see.

This kid is seriously .. wow..
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 03 2012 20:19 GMT
#258
On April 03 2012 23:50 Tidus Mino wrote:
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On April 03 2012 10:54 StarVe wrote:
WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Jjakji so good, first NSHoSeo player at a foreign event! I'm pumped!


Nope, San was at MLG arena, but he didn't do that well


Ahh, right. Stupid me, forgetting Winter Arena because I didn't watch it. Sorry, San!

Anyway, Jjakji will do well and make NSHoSeo proud! Only if he doesn't get too many TvTs, though.
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