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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 01 2012 11:51 GMT
#1921
On April 01 2012 20:42 silverstyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 19:43 HQuality wrote:
Creator, Marineking, Byun, bboongbboong, Maru
i can't see any team stop this lineup now even in one series


Well... its possible to name a line up from almost any team that can at least have a chance of stopping that team.

IM - Nestea, MVP, Horror, Yoda, YongHwa
MVP - DRG, Genius, SC, Monster, Keen
oGsTL - Supernova, StC, HerO, Zenio, ForGG
We could go on lol. They're strong but no unbeatable.

But for the team that matters i.e. ST, a line up that could beat that would be something like
July, Parting, Bomber, Curious, Sound

The only trump card Prime has over most teams is that MKP is super hot at the moment.


How can you not include Seed in IM? Poor Seed is always forgotten.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 01 2012 11:55 GMT
#1922
On April 01 2012 20:51 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 20:42 silverstyle wrote:
On April 01 2012 19:43 HQuality wrote:
Creator, Marineking, Byun, bboongbboong, Maru
i can't see any team stop this lineup now even in one series


Well... its possible to name a line up from almost any team that can at least have a chance of stopping that team.

IM - Nestea, MVP, Horror, Yoda, YongHwa
MVP - DRG, Genius, SC, Monster, Keen
oGsTL - Supernova, StC, HerO, Zenio, ForGG
We could go on lol. They're strong but no unbeatable.

But for the team that matters i.e. ST, a line up that could beat that would be something like
July, Parting, Bomber, Curious, Sound

The only trump card Prime has over most teams is that MKP is super hot at the moment.


How can you not include Seed in IM? Poor Seed is always forgotten.


He's 0-3 in team league
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silverstyle
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1108 Posts
April 01 2012 11:59 GMT
#1923
On April 01 2012 20:55 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 20:51 Dodgin wrote:
On April 01 2012 20:42 silverstyle wrote:
On April 01 2012 19:43 HQuality wrote:
Creator, Marineking, Byun, bboongbboong, Maru
i can't see any team stop this lineup now even in one series


Well... its possible to name a line up from almost any team that can at least have a chance of stopping that team.

IM - Nestea, MVP, Horror, Yoda, YongHwa
MVP - DRG, Genius, SC, Monster, Keen
oGsTL - Supernova, StC, HerO, Zenio, ForGG
We could go on lol. They're strong but no unbeatable.

But for the team that matters i.e. ST, a line up that could beat that would be something like
July, Parting, Bomber, Curious, Sound

The only trump card Prime has over most teams is that MKP is super hot at the moment.


How can you not include Seed in IM? Poor Seed is always forgotten.


He's 0-3 in team league


That and it was a toss up between seed and yonghwa lol.
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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
April 01 2012 12:05 GMT
#1924
On April 01 2012 20:42 silverstyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 19:43 HQuality wrote:
Creator, Marineking, Byun, bboongbboong, Maru
i can't see any team stop this lineup now even in one series


Well... its possible to name a line up from almost any team that can at least have a chance of stopping that team.

IM - Nestea, MVP, Horror, Yoda, YongHwa
MVP - DRG, Genius, SC, Monster, Keen
oGsTL - Supernova, StC, HerO, Zenio, ForGG
We could go on lol. They're strong but no unbeatable.

But for the team that matters i.e. ST, a line up that could beat that would be something like
July, Parting, Bomber, Curious, Sound

The only trump card Prime has over most teams is that MKP is super hot at the moment.

Yeah but you can put bet your ass that one of the ST players is going to spend the next week purely devoted to sniping MKP.
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dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 12:08:14
April 01 2012 12:07 GMT
#1925
On April 01 2012 18:31 MaNaVoId wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 18:27 Teacher74 wrote:
I'm sad that it won't be MVP vs Prime in the finals. That would have been sick. It was weird that both DRG and Genius dropped the ball.

I think Prime are the heavy favorites now.


In GSL, being the favourite is usually inversely proportional to winning.

Slayers was favored over MVP in GSTL 3 and MVP was the favorite over Prime last Season.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
April 01 2012 12:08 GMT
#1926
On April 01 2012 21:05 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 20:42 silverstyle wrote:
On April 01 2012 19:43 HQuality wrote:
Creator, Marineking, Byun, bboongbboong, Maru
i can't see any team stop this lineup now even in one series


Well... its possible to name a line up from almost any team that can at least have a chance of stopping that team.

IM - Nestea, MVP, Horror, Yoda, YongHwa
MVP - DRG, Genius, SC, Monster, Keen
oGsTL - Supernova, StC, HerO, Zenio, ForGG
We could go on lol. They're strong but no unbeatable.

But for the team that matters i.e. ST, a line up that could beat that would be something like
July, Parting, Bomber, Curious, Sound

The only trump card Prime has over most teams is that MKP is super hot at the moment.

Yeah but you can put bet your ass that one of the ST players is going to spend the next week purely devoted to sniping MKP.


Parting has a good chance

The guy is a pvt beast and he had good games vs mkp at mlg
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
April 01 2012 12:15 GMT
#1927
On April 01 2012 20:16 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 19:43 HQuality wrote:
Creator, Marineking, Byun, bboongbboong, Maru
i can't see any team stop this lineup now even in one series


IM has a shot imo. MKP has yet to prove himself against his bane MVP.

Or Nestea. Don't forget he's never beaten Nestea in a series either.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
MaNaVoId
Profile Joined February 2012
492 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 12:21:16
April 01 2012 12:17 GMT
#1928
On April 01 2012 19:43 HQuality wrote:
Creator, Marineking, Byun, bboongbboong, Maru
i can't see any team stop this lineup now even in one series


Squirle Bomber Parting Curious July virus, among which 5 are code S . As for prime they only have 3 code s players and mkp is far from unbeatable, even Mvp in his prime got knocked to code A by july. And the final is bo11 and i can see prime having trouble finding a good 6th player.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
April 01 2012 12:25 GMT
#1929
Maybe can help me out...what is the correct response to 2rax 3rd-orbital?
It's sure killing good zergs like Leenock/DRG lately.
The threat of 2rax is so strong, that zerg is forced to make a lot of units...

If I have to guess, maybe roach bane?
moo...for DRG
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 01 2012 12:27 GMT
#1930
I think Curious has the best chance vs MKP
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KING CHARLIE :D
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States447 Posts
April 01 2012 12:43 GMT
#1931
AMAZING GAMES TODAY! I cant wait to see prime in Las Vegas! Always such incredible play when korean teams duke it out for the #1 spot!
NO TEAM WILL EVER BE AS GOOD AS TEAM LIQUID!
Slangen
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden1166 Posts
April 01 2012 12:46 GMT
#1932
So glad MKP managed to take the 5th win
Fnatic - TSM - EG
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
April 01 2012 12:48 GMT
#1933
Obviously this move isn't going to get nearly as much discussion since Prime won, but anyone else find it strange that Gerrard sent Creator so early? Creator is the only Protoss threat from Prime and when he was eliminated, it made the Prime race selection extremely predictable with three terrans remaining. Wouldn't it have made more sense to send one of the three terrans and keep the threat of unpredictability?
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 01 2012 12:51 GMT
#1934
Hoping for an epic MKP/Parting showdown at the end, after what they showed at MLG, that very muchup has great potential in both
xHPx_sc2
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden46 Posts
April 01 2012 12:52 GMT
#1935
On April 01 2012 18:56 FXOBoSs wrote:
Prime was the better team on the day. In team leagues its more than just "this guy is better". Its about eliminating maps, preparing for the next player, or the player after that. Prime deserve the win and the vegas trip. And they are going to play some kick ass games vs ST in vegas. I am excited to see them.

I also am looking forward to the 7 players per team in the open bracket. This is going to be huge!

edit: oh, and I am glad to acknowledge that Fionn's curse is becoming weaker..

No comment on Choya using himself before O mothafucking z?! :/
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 01 2012 12:52 GMT
#1936
On April 01 2012 21:51 HaXXspetten wrote:
Hoping for an epic MKP/Parting showdown at the end, after what they showed at MLG, that very muchup has great potential in both


MKP is like 6-1 against PartinG lol. I'd rather see an epic Bomber TvT with MKP
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
April 01 2012 12:59 GMT
#1937
On April 01 2012 21:52 xHPx_sc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 18:56 FXOBoSs wrote:
Prime was the better team on the day. In team leagues its more than just "this guy is better". Its about eliminating maps, preparing for the next player, or the player after that. Prime deserve the win and the vegas trip. And they are going to play some kick ass games vs ST in vegas. I am excited to see them.

I also am looking forward to the 7 players per team in the open bracket. This is going to be huge!

edit: oh, and I am glad to acknowledge that Fionn's curse is becoming weaker..

No comment on Choya using himself before O mothafucking z?! :/

Boss commented on it during the match. Said that he stood by the decision although he was surprised by it because Choya had been a PvT beast in practice lately
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silverstyle
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1108 Posts
April 01 2012 13:02 GMT
#1938
On April 01 2012 21:48 Kraznaya wrote:
Obviously this move isn't going to get nearly as much discussion since Prime won, but anyone else find it strange that Gerrard sent Creator so early? Creator is the only Protoss threat from Prime and when he was eliminated, it made the Prime race selection extremely predictable with three terrans remaining. Wouldn't it have made more sense to send one of the three terrans and keep the threat of unpredictability?


Yea actually I was thinking the same thing as well, but with that said, with Gumiho and asd gone, there really isnt anyone that is a threat to MKP lol. Which makes Choya's decision to send asd that early all the more strange. Sending Creator was actually pretty decent play since if anything failed, they would have someone to clean up shop in MKP/Byun.

PvZ is a relatively toss favoured match up esp if the toss gets to pick the map, that and creator's PvT is imo Creator's worst MU but still actually pretty decent. So that kind of negates the choice of TheBest (who would have chosen him anyway lol), that and they really had no terrans left.

Which is probably why they sent creator since if he had taken out lucky, the only viable option was either a Zerg or a PvP snipe anyway, creator's PvP has been shown to be pretty good defeating HerO recently, which might make him good enough to take out Oz, thus possibly forcing Leenock. Which either sets Leenock up for a snipe or getting taken out.

But,,, obv creator lost in PvZ so all that is moot, but that is probably what they thought of lol. That or, there really wasnt so much thinking and it was "we have our 3 best team league players left, creator/byun/mkp, just choose 1 and go..." lol
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DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
April 01 2012 13:12 GMT
#1939
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 01 2012 13:19 GMT
#1940

Eric Brinkley ‏ @snatcch
we'll be supporting the rest of the PRIME players not covered by the IPL travel stipend so the whole team can attend IPL4


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