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On April 01 2012 18:27 Teacher74 wrote: I'm sad that it won't be MVP vs Prime in the finals. That would have been sick. It was weird that both DRG and Genius dropped the ball.
I think Prime are the heavy favorites now.
In GSL, being the favourite is usually inversely proportional to winning.
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Ahhh finally unbanned. Why do people think Choya ruined the match for FXO. Unless you only believe in Artosis hype Oz(well he is good) is not really that outstanding vs Terran lately. I have to agree with Wolf on that, the turning point was when Byun came out, he is just that good and would have beaten OZ too IMO.
Oz would have been good as a vP Sniper but well, we all saw what happened. I feel bad for Choya, as he has beaten Byun and some really great Ts lately and he probably thought he had a better chance against Byun.Although as soon as Byun won I saw little hopes for FXO. MKP could take on Leenock and Oz. Byun still had a good chance to beat Oz.
Well, I am glad that Prime made it, last time they really had a scrappy way to the finals but this time they looked so good.
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On April 01 2012 18:00 Inflicted_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 17:45 Serinox wrote:On April 01 2012 17:37 Seeker wrote:On April 01 2012 17:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On April 01 2012 17:33 Fionn wrote:On April 01 2012 17:32 Seeker wrote:Nice voting so far guys  Poll: Most Questionable Coach's Decision?NSH coach using Tassadar as ace (31) 39% Choya sending himself in (please remember what BoSs said though) (27) 34% oGsTL using Luvsic as the ace vs DRG (11) 14% TheWind using JookTo against Lucky (8) 10% Other (2) 3% 79 total votes Your vote: Most Questionable Coach's Decision? (Vote): Choya sending himself in (please remember what BoSs said though) (Vote): NSH coach using Tassadar as ace (Vote): TheWind using JookTo against Lucky (Vote): oGsTL using Luvsic as the ace vs DRG (Vote): Other
Tassadar, easily. They sent him before as ace against Prime and got crushed. They had Sage and San still left. Choya had actually done well in the GSTL while Tassadar was like 0-2 all-time. yes. i voted for Tassadar as well. people are just voting for choya more because it just happened. if the choya thing had happened last week and the tassadar thing this week tassadar would win Meh.... I disliked TheWind's decision to use JookTo against Lucky most. I WANTED TO SEE ZENIO!!! Zenio: 70 % against Zerg JookTo: 38 % against Zerg better use JookTo! why...  Zenio was at IEM World Championship at the time.
No he wasn't. IEM WC was March 6-10 and the match FXO vs. oGsTL was on March, 23.
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On April 01 2012 18:33 windsupernova wrote: Ahhh finally unbanned. Why do people think Choya ruined the match for FXO. Unless you only believe in Artosis hype Oz(well he is good) is not really that outstanding vs Terran lately. I have to agree with Wolf on that, the turning point was when Byun came out, he is just that good and would have beaten OZ too IMO.
Oz would have been good as a vP Sniper but well, we all saw what happened. I feel bad for Choya, as he has beaten Byun and some really great Ts lately and he probably thought he had a better chance against Byun.Although as soon as Byun won I saw little hopes for FXO. MKP could take on Leenock and Oz. Byun still had a good chance to beat Oz.
Well, I am glad that Prime made it, last time they really had a scrappy way to the finals but this time they looked so good. umm... lets throw this out there... Play Oz earlier instead of ASD or Gumiho, don't play Choya at all and ensure that your best players are all used.
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On April 01 2012 17:18 nokz88 wrote: MKP is favoring this tank-less TvZ style a lot lately. I wonder what can Zergs do to counter it.
More banelings, less mutas. Not everyone has MKP's micro
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On April 01 2012 18:38 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 18:33 windsupernova wrote: Ahhh finally unbanned. Why do people think Choya ruined the match for FXO. Unless you only believe in Artosis hype Oz(well he is good) is not really that outstanding vs Terran lately. I have to agree with Wolf on that, the turning point was when Byun came out, he is just that good and would have beaten OZ too IMO.
Oz would have been good as a vP Sniper but well, we all saw what happened. I feel bad for Choya, as he has beaten Byun and some really great Ts lately and he probably thought he had a better chance against Byun.Although as soon as Byun won I saw little hopes for FXO. MKP could take on Leenock and Oz. Byun still had a good chance to beat Oz.
Well, I am glad that Prime made it, last time they really had a scrappy way to the finals but this time they looked so good. umm... lets throw this out there... Play Oz earlier instead of ASD or Gumiho, don't play Choya at all and ensure that your best players are all used.
Yea agreed, asd played absolutely horribly, E.G. running large groups of marines towards banelings. Oz is definitely the better play than asd.
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On April 01 2012 18:36 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 18:00 Inflicted_ wrote:On April 01 2012 17:45 Serinox wrote:On April 01 2012 17:37 Seeker wrote:On April 01 2012 17:34 Shellshock1122 wrote:On April 01 2012 17:33 Fionn wrote:On April 01 2012 17:32 Seeker wrote:Nice voting so far guys  Poll: Most Questionable Coach's Decision?NSH coach using Tassadar as ace (31) 39% Choya sending himself in (please remember what BoSs said though) (27) 34% oGsTL using Luvsic as the ace vs DRG (11) 14% TheWind using JookTo against Lucky (8) 10% Other (2) 3% 79 total votes Your vote: Most Questionable Coach's Decision? (Vote): Choya sending himself in (please remember what BoSs said though) (Vote): NSH coach using Tassadar as ace (Vote): TheWind using JookTo against Lucky (Vote): oGsTL using Luvsic as the ace vs DRG (Vote): Other
Tassadar, easily. They sent him before as ace against Prime and got crushed. They had Sage and San still left. Choya had actually done well in the GSTL while Tassadar was like 0-2 all-time. yes. i voted for Tassadar as well. people are just voting for choya more because it just happened. if the choya thing had happened last week and the tassadar thing this week tassadar would win Meh.... I disliked TheWind's decision to use JookTo against Lucky most. I WANTED TO SEE ZENIO!!! Zenio: 70 % against Zerg JookTo: 38 % against Zerg better use JookTo! why...  Zenio was at IEM World Championship at the time. No he wasn't. IEM WC was March 6-10 and the match FXO vs. oGsTL was on March, 23.
Oh, I was thinking you were talking about Luvsic vs DRG.
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On April 01 2012 18:46 MaNaVoId wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 18:38 mrtomjones wrote:On April 01 2012 18:33 windsupernova wrote: Ahhh finally unbanned. Why do people think Choya ruined the match for FXO. Unless you only believe in Artosis hype Oz(well he is good) is not really that outstanding vs Terran lately. I have to agree with Wolf on that, the turning point was when Byun came out, he is just that good and would have beaten OZ too IMO.
Oz would have been good as a vP Sniper but well, we all saw what happened. I feel bad for Choya, as he has beaten Byun and some really great Ts lately and he probably thought he had a better chance against Byun.Although as soon as Byun won I saw little hopes for FXO. MKP could take on Leenock and Oz. Byun still had a good chance to beat Oz.
Well, I am glad that Prime made it, last time they really had a scrappy way to the finals but this time they looked so good. umm... lets throw this out there... Play Oz earlier instead of ASD or Gumiho, don't play Choya at all and ensure that your best players are all used. Yea agreed, asd played absolutely horribly, E.G. running large groups of marines towards banelings. Oz is definitely the better play than asd.
Choya was keeping OZ for creator I think, so he couldn't throw him that early. And people forget that Choya took out ryung and MMA. He's not godly but it's not like sending himself was sth stupid. I would even say that's it's cool to see a team with a high level coach that can play in GSTL (cella could come close, but he didn't qualified for code A)
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Prime was the better team on the day. In team leagues its more than just "this guy is better". Its about eliminating maps, preparing for the next player, or the player after that. Prime deserve the win and the vegas trip. And they are going to play some kick ass games vs ST in vegas. I am excited to see them.
I also am looking forward to the 7 players per team in the open bracket. This is going to be huge!
edit: oh, and I am glad to acknowledge that Fionn's curse is becoming weaker..
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On April 01 2012 19:04 NrGmonk wrote: Is finals bo9 or 11?
11, according to the TL article? Damn that's epic
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On April 01 2012 16:29 GraFx wrote: That feel when Choya destroys Byun and then bathes himself in the tears of RedditKingPrime. Delicious. Delicious indeed.
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Creator, Marineking, Byun, bboongbboong, Maru i can't see any team stop this lineup now even in one series
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Tough loss, Prime really looking strong. Congrats to them, what a scary team league lineup.
Cheering for StarTale in the finals!
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On April 01 2012 19:43 HQuality wrote: Creator, Marineking, Byun, bboongbboong, Maru i can't see any team stop this lineup now even in one series
IM has a shot imo. MKP has yet to prove himself against his bane MVP.
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On April 01 2012 18:38 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 18:33 windsupernova wrote: Ahhh finally unbanned. Why do people think Choya ruined the match for FXO. Unless you only believe in Artosis hype Oz(well he is good) is not really that outstanding vs Terran lately. I have to agree with Wolf on that, the turning point was when Byun came out, he is just that good and would have beaten OZ too IMO.
Oz would have been good as a vP Sniper but well, we all saw what happened. I feel bad for Choya, as he has beaten Byun and some really great Ts lately and he probably thought he had a better chance against Byun.Although as soon as Byun won I saw little hopes for FXO. MKP could take on Leenock and Oz. Byun still had a good chance to beat Oz.
Well, I am glad that Prime made it, last time they really had a scrappy way to the finals but this time they looked so good. umm... lets throw this out there... Play Oz earlier instead of ASD or Gumiho, don't play Choya at all and ensure that your best players are all used.
As many have said they were probably saving Oz as an anti vP specialist. And anyways, I was not arguing that Choya made all the right decisions. I was only arguing that sending himself to play against GhostKing was not really such a terrible idea as many people are making it seem
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It's crazy how Prime went from being this also ran team on the decline to basically the best team in the world in about a 3 month period.
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On April 01 2012 20:16 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2012 19:43 HQuality wrote: Creator, Marineking, Byun, bboongbboong, Maru i can't see any team stop this lineup now even in one series IM has a shot imo. MKP has yet to prove himself against his bane MVP.
MVP is his current state probably wouldn't beat MKP, and I think Creator is a pretty easy sniper of MVP.
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cant believe choya played... oz is such a good player, GAH
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On April 01 2012 19:43 HQuality wrote: Creator, Marineking, Byun, bboongbboong, Maru i can't see any team stop this lineup now even in one series
Well... its possible to name a line up from almost any team that can at least have a chance of stopping that team.
IM - Nestea, MVP, Horror, Yoda, YongHwa MVP - DRG, Genius, SC, Monster, Keen oGsTL - Supernova, StC, HerO, Zenio, ForGG We could go on lol. They're strong but no unbeatable.
But for the team that matters i.e. ST, a line up that could beat that would be something like July, Parting, Bomber, Curious, Sound
The only trump card Prime has over most teams is that MKP is super hot at the moment.
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