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samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
April 04 2012 10:36 GMT
#441
On April 04 2012 19:28 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 17:30 Silvanel wrote:
On April 04 2012 15:46 Ketch wrote:
Well... this gives MMA somewhat of an unfair advantage. Stephano should be DQ'ed for not holding up to his commitment and all his games should be made obsolete.

It probably didn't matter anyway... but hey...



It would matter, for example Mana would still have chance to advance.

There are several possible scenarii actually. What if Stephano just forfeited because he was actually already qualified for the next round ?? I know it's kind of weird and it's more likely that he lost and wasn't qualified. But for instance if :
Jjakji loses to Stephano 0-2
Life loses to Mana 0-2
Knowing that, Stephano forfeit against MMA (=0-2)
We would have a 3 ways 2-2 tie and the points would be :
(matches / sets)
MMA 3-1 / 7-3
Stephano 2-2 / 5-4
Jjakji 2-2 / 4-5
Mana 2-2 / 4-5 (+ match lost against Jjakji)
Life 1-3 / 4-7

and Stephano would be already qualified.

But well, I suppose this is unreal, but this is still a possible scenario if I'm not wrong.

Actually even this would be ok for Stephano to qualify :
Jjakji loses to Stephano 1-2
Life loses to Mana 1-2
MMA 3-1 / 7-3
Stephano 2-2 / 5-5 (+ match won against Jjakji)
Jjakji 2-2 / 5-5
Mana 2-2 / 4-6
Life 1-3 / 5-7
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
April 04 2012 10:38 GMT
#442
On April 04 2012 19:36 Nelz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 19:30 samurai80 wrote:
On April 04 2012 19:22 Nelz wrote:
On April 04 2012 19:18 samurai80 wrote:
On April 04 2012 17:14 DisillusionedAcronym wrote:
On April 04 2012 17:01 samurai80 wrote:
On April 04 2012 15:31 Poopi wrote:
On April 04 2012 07:32 Ylrahc wrote:
Simple, he had no chance to advance because he lost to jjakji earlier on during his slump against terrans, thus nothing to win by playing MMA and everything to lose (either he plays not seriously and it is a poor match, or he plays seriously and risks to give strat info for potential later opponents). Not saying he was morally is right, he could have made 2 7 pools or a drones rush, but that's the risk when you do such long duration online tournaments...sometimes players don't see the point to play and forfeit. It's not like he was paid to play, he was legally right to forfeit, but obviously for the fans it's disappointing.

When did he lose to Jjakji o_o?
I don't see it anywhere

It is not sure yet if he lost and I don't think anyone even knows if they have actually played already, but this theory has unfortunately some good probability to be true.

if i understand the format correctly, the games have been played (with the exception of the stephano-MMA match). they just haven't been 'casted or shown.

But you know when ?


Stephano vs life = 29/02/2012
Stephano vs Jjakji = 04/03/2012

Sorry to insist but how do u know that ? Is it reliable ?


Games were played when Stephano was in France, and obviously game were played on the american server against the korean guys !

Stephano never play cross server unless it is necessary, so early march, just looked at Stephano's history on the US Server and saw the results. To find the exact opponent was not very difficult.

Nice investigation !
bikefrog
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway451 Posts
April 04 2012 10:44 GMT
#443
I'm guessing he already lost to Jjakji, was unable to advance in any case and decided to forfeit.
Foreigners fighting! Ovethrow our Korean overlords!
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3837 Posts
April 04 2012 13:07 GMT
#444
On April 04 2012 19:36 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 19:28 samurai80 wrote:
On April 04 2012 17:30 Silvanel wrote:
On April 04 2012 15:46 Ketch wrote:
Well... this gives MMA somewhat of an unfair advantage. Stephano should be DQ'ed for not holding up to his commitment and all his games should be made obsolete.

It probably didn't matter anyway... but hey...



It would matter, for example Mana would still have chance to advance.

There are several possible scenarii actually. What if Stephano just forfeited because he was actually already qualified for the next round ?? I know it's kind of weird and it's more likely that he lost and wasn't qualified. But for instance if :
Jjakji loses to Stephano 0-2
Life loses to Mana 0-2
Knowing that, Stephano forfeit against MMA (=0-2)
We would have a 3 ways 2-2 tie and the points would be :
(matches / sets)
MMA 3-1 / 7-3
Stephano 2-2 / 5-4
Jjakji 2-2 / 4-5
Mana 2-2 / 4-5 (+ match lost against Jjakji)
Life 1-3 / 4-7

and Stephano would be already qualified.

But well, I suppose this is unreal, but this is still a possible scenario if I'm not wrong.

Actually even this would be ok for Stephano to qualify :
Jjakji loses to Stephano 1-2
Life loses to Mana 1-2
MMA 3-1 / 7-3
Stephano 2-2 / 5-5 (+ match won against Jjakji)
Jjakji 2-2 / 5-5
Mana 2-2 / 4-6
Life 1-3 / 5-7

No. Stephano's matches still count for others but according to the article he has lost his chance to make it out of the group. So in those scenarios Jjakji will advance.
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3837 Posts
April 04 2012 18:24 GMT
#445
Half an hour gogogogogogogogoggo!!
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
April 04 2012 19:02 GMT
#446
live albeit unlisted

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/IronSquid
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
April 04 2012 19:10 GMT
#447
go MMA. get first in the group :D
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 04 2012 19:14 GMT
#448
On April 05 2012 04:10 Olinim wrote:
go MMA. get first in the group :D


Isn't he already first in the group for certain?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
April 04 2012 19:15 GMT
#449
On April 05 2012 04:14 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 04:10 Olinim wrote:
go MMA. get first in the group :D


Isn't he already first in the group for certain?

I don't know tbh xD.
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3837 Posts
April 04 2012 19:16 GMT
#450
On April 05 2012 04:14 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 04:10 Olinim wrote:
go MMA. get first in the group :D


Isn't he already first in the group for certain?

Yep
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
IronSquidTV
Profile Joined February 2012
France4 Posts
April 04 2012 19:16 GMT
#451
1st match for Today Started !

Jjakji vs Stephano.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
April 04 2012 19:17 GMT
#452
On April 05 2012 04:16 catplanetcatplanet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 04:14 Bagration wrote:
On April 05 2012 04:10 Olinim wrote:
go MMA. get first in the group :D


Isn't he already first in the group for certain?

Yep

ah yeah. forgot about the forfeit.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
April 04 2012 19:18 GMT
#453
yeah Stephano bitching out gave MMA a free first place ><
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 04 2012 19:20 GMT
#454
Fast unpunished third into ez win for Jjakji?
bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 19:20:51
April 04 2012 19:20 GMT
#455
No in-game sounds :|

edit: just very quiet
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
Slapshot
Profile Joined January 2012
95 Posts
April 04 2012 19:21 GMT
#456
It is very hard for me to like Stephano with these antics. It's a pity he can get away with it in a young and undeveloped scene as SC2.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
April 04 2012 19:22 GMT
#457
very outdateded playstyles, looks like at least 1 month old replays
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 19:24:40
April 04 2012 19:24 GMT
#458
That was the 3-base +2/+2 ling infestor baneling timing Stephano developed with Dimaga. It failed because Jjakji took an early third and had way too many units by the point the timing came.

He cut a lot of drones for this, so he's basically dead.
Kubricks
Profile Joined November 2011
284 Posts
April 04 2012 19:24 GMT
#459
Holy shit, Jjakji is like Polt 2.0 vs. Stephano.
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
April 04 2012 19:25 GMT
#460
How old is this replay?
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