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Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
March 24 2012 05:02 GMT
#6661
On March 24 2012 14:02 kagemucha wrote:
JINROOOO 2-0 TLO then 2-0 Idra?! Anyone have more info on what happened?


Jinro - Idra hasnt been played.
Jaedong & Faker
steelcurtain09
Profile Joined October 2011
United States87 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 05:04:25
March 24 2012 05:03 GMT
#6662
Does anybody know the results of DRG v Haypro? I never saw it on stream and MLG doesnt have it updated on their website

Edit: Nevermind. I found it on the OP results.
masakenji
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia415 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 05:04:20
March 24 2012 05:04 GMT
#6663
On March 24 2012 14:03 steelcurtain09 wrote:
Does anybody know the results of DRG v Haypro? I never saw it on stream and MLG doesnt have it updated on their website


2-0 DRG
kagemucha
Profile Joined August 2010
United States326 Posts
March 24 2012 05:04 GMT
#6664
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=323067

Says
Jinro 2 - 0 IdrA

Though i guess it's a typo now Doesn't make sense RO5 is played already.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
March 24 2012 05:04 GMT
#6665
NonY made it to round 5. He's facing ThorZain tomorrow
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 24 2012 05:04 GMT
#6666
On March 24 2012 14:03 steelcurtain09 wrote:
Does anybody know the results of DRG v Haypro? I never saw it on stream and MLG doesnt have it updated on their website

Edit: Nevermind. I found it on the OP results.


2-0 DRG
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 05:06:39
March 24 2012 05:05 GMT
#6667
On March 24 2012 13:58 chosenkerrigan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 13:52 MattyClutch wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:51 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:44 lannisport wrote:
So who can actually take Stephano on in a straight up zvt? I'd really like to see him against MMA, MVP or jjakji. Not taking any credit away from Polt, but it seems like if you let Stephano macro up he will just overrun you. I think he has BETTER infestor control/BL/late game army control than ANY zerg right now, including DRG. And he shuts down drops fairly easily plus likes to play safe with spines.


Any Code S terran can take stephano in macro games, including Polt.
One perfect example would be alive, who is undefeated against stephano, and all the games weren't even close.


I would say overall I agree with you, but Stephano has more than shown that he can stand toe to toe with Polt. I wouldn't so easily write him off. Yes, he did lose, but he lost in a pretty great series.


Yeah Polt and Stephano are pretty evenly matched, but I really don't think Polt vZ is that good for the standard of Code S. His TvZ actually ranks 18th in Korean TLPD, not really spectacular.


I agree that there are stronger terrans vs Z but i can't name 18 better ones then Polt right now, TLPD is great but it only says overall points not the current play.

Errr make that 17
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 24 2012 05:05 GMT
#6668
On March 24 2012 14:00 BBMorti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 13:58 1Eris1 wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:56 Wildmoon wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:55 BBMorti wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:51 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:44 lannisport wrote:
So who can actually take Stephano on in a straight up zvt? I'd really like to see him against MMA, MVP or jjakji. Not taking any credit away from Polt, but it seems like if you let Stephano macro up he will just overrun you. I think he has BETTER infestor control/BL/late game army control than ANY zerg right now, including DRG. And he shuts down drops fairly easily plus likes to play safe with spines.


Any Code S terran can take stephano in macro games, including Polt.
One perfect example would be alive, who is undefeated against stephano, and all the games weren't even close.

Polt gets destroyed in long macro games versus Stephano, check their history. There is a reason why Polt want to avoid such games.. Game 1 is terran favored (map) if they go tanks, but in longer series I doubt polt would ever want to play the macro game with Stephano. Their series in Texas shows what happens.


Weren't the games in Assemmbly mostly macro game and Polt won 4-1?



It's a fanboy in a LR thread, do you honestly expect them to not cherry pick details to reinforce their points?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony



You made a generalized all out assuming statement, he provided you with something that showed that wasn't true. Good try though.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 24 2012 05:05 GMT
#6669
On March 24 2012 14:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:
NonY made it to round 5. He's facing ThorZain tomorrow


Not bad, not bad at all.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
March 24 2012 05:06 GMT
#6670
On March 24 2012 13:35 Aemilia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 13:34 Fionn wrote:
Polt played passive in the past, like, 20 or so Stephano vs. Polt games.

He finally pulled the trigger.


This was a build that old Polt would have done used at most opportune time he could ever have done it.


Polt knows that no matter how awesome you are, a bit of bad luck in pool play can really bring it to naught. It's happened to him before. Maybe that's why he added extra mustard in game 3.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 24 2012 05:07 GMT
#6671
On March 24 2012 14:05 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 13:58 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:52 MattyClutch wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:51 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:44 lannisport wrote:
So who can actually take Stephano on in a straight up zvt? I'd really like to see him against MMA, MVP or jjakji. Not taking any credit away from Polt, but it seems like if you let Stephano macro up he will just overrun you. I think he has BETTER infestor control/BL/late game army control than ANY zerg right now, including DRG. And he shuts down drops fairly easily plus likes to play safe with spines.


Any Code S terran can take stephano in macro games, including Polt.
One perfect example would be alive, who is undefeated against stephano, and all the games weren't even close.


I would say overall I agree with you, but Stephano has more than shown that he can stand toe to toe with Polt. I wouldn't so easily write him off. Yes, he did lose, but he lost in a pretty great series.


Yeah Polt and Stephano are pretty evenly matched, but I really don't think Polt vZ is that good for the standard of Code S. His TvZ actually ranks 18th in Korean TLPD, not really spectacular.


I agree that there are stronger terrans vs Z but i can't name 18 better ones then Polt right now, TLPD is great but it only says overall points not the current play.


Polt's TvZ is his weak point, but he has vastly improved from where he was a while ago. He faced Leenock in Code S not too long ago and was able to go 1-1 against him, beat Nestea in the Blizzard Cup, etc. MMA, MVP (when he has wrists) and MKP are way better vZ, but Polt's pretty damn good at it.

I wouldn't mind seeing Alive vs. Stephano. That could be a good gauge of how good Stephano is and how good Polt's vZ is.
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 24 2012 05:07 GMT
#6672
On March 24 2012 13:55 BBMorti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 13:51 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:44 lannisport wrote:
So who can actually take Stephano on in a straight up zvt? I'd really like to see him against MMA, MVP or jjakji. Not taking any credit away from Polt, but it seems like if you let Stephano macro up he will just overrun you. I think he has BETTER infestor control/BL/late game army control than ANY zerg right now, including DRG. And he shuts down drops fairly easily plus likes to play safe with spines.


Any Code S terran can take stephano in macro games, including Polt.
One perfect example would be alive, who is undefeated against stephano, and all the games weren't even close.

Polt gets destroyed in long macro games versus Stephano, check their history. There is a reason why Polt want to avoid such games.. Game 1 is terran favored (map) if they go tanks, but in longer series I doubt polt would ever want to play the macro game with Stephano. Their series in Texas shows what happens.

someone missed game 1 of the series today.
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BBMorti
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark242 Posts
March 24 2012 05:08 GMT
#6673
On March 24 2012 14:05 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:00 BBMorti wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:58 1Eris1 wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:56 Wildmoon wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:55 BBMorti wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:51 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:44 lannisport wrote:
So who can actually take Stephano on in a straight up zvt? I'd really like to see him against MMA, MVP or jjakji. Not taking any credit away from Polt, but it seems like if you let Stephano macro up he will just overrun you. I think he has BETTER infestor control/BL/late game army control than ANY zerg right now, including DRG. And he shuts down drops fairly easily plus likes to play safe with spines.


Any Code S terran can take stephano in macro games, including Polt.
One perfect example would be alive, who is undefeated against stephano, and all the games weren't even close.

Polt gets destroyed in long macro games versus Stephano, check their history. There is a reason why Polt want to avoid such games.. Game 1 is terran favored (map) if they go tanks, but in longer series I doubt polt would ever want to play the macro game with Stephano. Their series in Texas shows what happens.


Weren't the games in Assemmbly mostly macro game and Polt won 4-1?



It's a fanboy in a LR thread, do you honestly expect them to not cherry pick details to reinforce their points?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony


You made a generalized all out assuming statement, he provided you with something that showed that wasn't true. Good try though.


Nono it flew over your head bro. Let me quote mine it for you, then. "A situation is often said to be ironic (situational irony) if the actions taken have an effect exactly opposite from what was intended." So fitting to your retarded remark about me being a fanboy.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 24 2012 05:08 GMT
#6674
On March 24 2012 14:05 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:
NonY made it to round 5. He's facing ThorZain tomorrow


Not bad, not bad at all.

meh, he hasn't really played anyone other than LzGamer
www.superbeerbrothers.com
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 24 2012 05:10 GMT
#6675
On March 24 2012 14:05 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:
NonY made it to round 5. He's facing ThorZain tomorrow


Not bad, not bad at all.


That is the easiest bracket by far, no Koreans, no big names. Thorzain got really lucky IMO.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
March 24 2012 05:11 GMT
#6676
On March 24 2012 14:07 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:05 Lysanias wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:58 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:52 MattyClutch wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:51 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:44 lannisport wrote:
So who can actually take Stephano on in a straight up zvt? I'd really like to see him against MMA, MVP or jjakji. Not taking any credit away from Polt, but it seems like if you let Stephano macro up he will just overrun you. I think he has BETTER infestor control/BL/late game army control than ANY zerg right now, including DRG. And he shuts down drops fairly easily plus likes to play safe with spines.


Any Code S terran can take stephano in macro games, including Polt.
One perfect example would be alive, who is undefeated against stephano, and all the games weren't even close.


I would say overall I agree with you, but Stephano has more than shown that he can stand toe to toe with Polt. I wouldn't so easily write him off. Yes, he did lose, but he lost in a pretty great series.


Yeah Polt and Stephano are pretty evenly matched, but I really don't think Polt vZ is that good for the standard of Code S. His TvZ actually ranks 18th in Korean TLPD, not really spectacular.


I agree that there are stronger terrans vs Z but i can't name 18 better ones then Polt right now, TLPD is great but it only says overall points not the current play.


Polt's TvZ is his weak point, but he has vastly improved from where he was a while ago. He faced Leenock in Code S not too long ago and was able to go 1-1 against him, beat Nestea in the Blizzard Cup, etc. MMA, MVP (when he has wrists) and MKP are way better vZ, but Polt's pretty damn good at it.

I wouldn't mind seeing Alive vs. Stephano. That could be a good gauge of how good Stephano is and how good Polt's vZ is.

He played aLive online right after assembly and got destroyed. However Stephano has obviously changed some things since Assembly as we've seen. I wouldnt mind seeing them face again
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 24 2012 05:11 GMT
#6677
On March 24 2012 14:07 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:05 Lysanias wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:58 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:52 MattyClutch wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:51 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:44 lannisport wrote:
So who can actually take Stephano on in a straight up zvt? I'd really like to see him against MMA, MVP or jjakji. Not taking any credit away from Polt, but it seems like if you let Stephano macro up he will just overrun you. I think he has BETTER infestor control/BL/late game army control than ANY zerg right now, including DRG. And he shuts down drops fairly easily plus likes to play safe with spines.


Any Code S terran can take stephano in macro games, including Polt.
One perfect example would be alive, who is undefeated against stephano, and all the games weren't even close.


I would say overall I agree with you, but Stephano has more than shown that he can stand toe to toe with Polt. I wouldn't so easily write him off. Yes, he did lose, but he lost in a pretty great series.


Yeah Polt and Stephano are pretty evenly matched, but I really don't think Polt vZ is that good for the standard of Code S. His TvZ actually ranks 18th in Korean TLPD, not really spectacular.


I agree that there are stronger terrans vs Z but i can't name 18 better ones then Polt right now, TLPD is great but it only says overall points not the current play.


Polt's TvZ is his weak point, but he has vastly improved from where he was a while ago. He faced Leenock in Code S not too long ago and was able to go 1-1 against him, beat Nestea in the Blizzard Cup, etc. MMA, MVP (when he has wrists) and MKP are way better vZ, but Polt's pretty damn good at it.

I wouldn't mind seeing Alive vs. Stephano. That could be a good gauge of how good Stephano is and how good Polt's vZ is.


Or just wait and see how Polt is going to do in Code S
But i do think Polt's TvZ could be in the top 10 instead of 18th atm, he's getting better at it and he has to be considering he's got plenty of Z to train with in TSL.
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
March 24 2012 05:12 GMT
#6678
On March 24 2012 14:10 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:05 Bagration wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:
NonY made it to round 5. He's facing ThorZain tomorrow


Not bad, not bad at all.


That is the easiest bracket by far, no Koreans, no big names. Thorzain got really lucky IMO.


It's easy but there are actually far easier brackets out there.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
March 24 2012 05:12 GMT
#6679
On March 24 2012 14:10 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:05 Bagration wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:
NonY made it to round 5. He's facing ThorZain tomorrow


Not bad, not bad at all.


That is the easiest bracket by far, no Koreans, no big names. Thorzain got really lucky IMO.

I wouldnt say by far
the SeleCT vs Axslav/Illusion vs Crazymoving isn't far off in difficulty
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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 24 2012 05:12 GMT
#6680
On March 24 2012 14:08 BBMorti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:05 1Eris1 wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:00 BBMorti wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:58 1Eris1 wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:56 Wildmoon wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:55 BBMorti wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:51 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:44 lannisport wrote:
So who can actually take Stephano on in a straight up zvt? I'd really like to see him against MMA, MVP or jjakji. Not taking any credit away from Polt, but it seems like if you let Stephano macro up he will just overrun you. I think he has BETTER infestor control/BL/late game army control than ANY zerg right now, including DRG. And he shuts down drops fairly easily plus likes to play safe with spines.


Any Code S terran can take stephano in macro games, including Polt.
One perfect example would be alive, who is undefeated against stephano, and all the games weren't even close.

Polt gets destroyed in long macro games versus Stephano, check their history. There is a reason why Polt want to avoid such games.. Game 1 is terran favored (map) if they go tanks, but in longer series I doubt polt would ever want to play the macro game with Stephano. Their series in Texas shows what happens.


Weren't the games in Assemmbly mostly macro game and Polt won 4-1?



It's a fanboy in a LR thread, do you honestly expect them to not cherry pick details to reinforce their points?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony


You made a generalized all out assuming statement, he provided you with something that showed that wasn't true. Good try though.


Nono it flew over your head bro. Let me quote mine it for you, then. "A situation is often said to be ironic (situational irony) if the actions taken have an effect exactly opposite from what was intended." So fitting to your retarded remark about me being a fanboy.


Not really. You spefically ignored certain results when you made your point, and he pointed that out. He didn't cherry pick anything, he was just referencing that your broad statement is incorrect, which means it isn't ironic.
And nice, "retarded remark"? Now I remember why I hate SC2 LR threads and Stephano fans.
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