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NASL Statement on the Ace Match:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=13983381
flexgd
Profile Joined September 2011
183 Posts
March 19 2012 01:35 GMT
#81
On March 19 2012 10:33 vdale wrote:
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On March 19 2012 10:29 Dodgin wrote:
On March 19 2012 10:27 vdale wrote:
On March 19 2012 10:25 flexgd wrote:
this is why u never go mutas versus protoss ever again

That's stupid. Why don't you just add some Infestors?

Stephano said that he loves when the protoss is building phoenix with +2 range upgrade against his muta build.


Split the pheonixes and lift the infestors.

Stephano says a lot of things based off the EU Protoss players he gets to trash around all day.

It's infestors + mutas (with upgrades). You can't split your phoenix, kill the infestors and fly away from the mutas at the same time, not even if you are a korean.


let me clarify.
1.) u dont go mutas vs anykind of ffe into stargate. 2.) how much gas do u think u have? 10?
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
March 19 2012 01:37 GMT
#82
On March 19 2012 10:34 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 10:33 vdale wrote:
On March 19 2012 10:29 Dodgin wrote:
On March 19 2012 10:27 vdale wrote:
On March 19 2012 10:25 flexgd wrote:
this is why u never go mutas versus protoss ever again

That's stupid. Why don't you just add some Infestors?

Stephano said that he loves when the protoss is building phoenix with +2 range upgrade against his muta build.


Split the pheonixes and lift the infestors.

Stephano says a lot of things based off the EU Protoss players he gets to trash around all day.

It's infestors + mutas (with upgrades). You can't split your phoenix, kill the infestors and fly away from the mutas at the same time, not even if you are a korean.


You're ignoring the support army, of course phoenixes alone will lose to muta infestor, but I'd rather not argue theorycraft. Let's just say you would be surprised what people can pull off.

I'm not saying that it's an easy win with infestors and mutas, it comes down to micro, but the game definitely didn't show that "this is why you never go mutas versus protoss ever again".
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 01:39:10
March 19 2012 01:38 GMT
#83
Hero don't give a fuck about your burrow!

GG

On March 19 2012 10:37 vdale wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 10:34 Dodgin wrote:
On March 19 2012 10:33 vdale wrote:
On March 19 2012 10:29 Dodgin wrote:
On March 19 2012 10:27 vdale wrote:
On March 19 2012 10:25 flexgd wrote:
this is why u never go mutas versus protoss ever again

That's stupid. Why don't you just add some Infestors?

Stephano said that he loves when the protoss is building phoenix with +2 range upgrade against his muta build.


Split the pheonixes and lift the infestors.

Stephano says a lot of things based off the EU Protoss players he gets to trash around all day.

It's infestors + mutas (with upgrades). You can't split your phoenix, kill the infestors and fly away from the mutas at the same time, not even if you are a korean.


You're ignoring the support army, of course phoenixes alone will lose to muta infestor, but I'd rather not argue theorycraft. Let's just say you would be surprised what people can pull off.

I'm not saying that it's an easy win with infestors and mutas, it comes down to micro, but the game definitely didn't show that "this is why you never go mutas versus protoss ever again".



Oh no let me make this clear, I completely agree with you. The other poster was exaggerating far too much. Some people ( cough nony ) say Phoenixes are bad and the range upgrade is useless, which is just not true.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
March 19 2012 01:38 GMT
#84
Onesided.. That was actually not even funny to watch, even as a diehard HerO-fan
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Splunge
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany925 Posts
March 19 2012 01:38 GMT
#85
Great start for Liquid! GG!
jazzyjazz
Profile Joined October 2010
941 Posts
March 19 2012 01:38 GMT
#86
morrow played extremely poorly there at the end, I wanted to see a third match between these 2 players too. Oh well, let's go liquid!
Eat emmmmmmmmmm
tarakas
Profile Joined November 2011
29 Posts
March 19 2012 01:40 GMT
#87
why no roachspeed ?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 19 2012 01:42 GMT
#88
Come on Zenio! Take down thorzain and set Liquid up for the 3-0!
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jazzyjazz
Profile Joined October 2010
941 Posts
March 19 2012 01:48 GMT
#89
Lol, this game is done. Marines so good.
Eat emmmmmmmmmm
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
March 19 2012 01:49 GMT
#90
thorzain loves to do early game pressure......seen it quite a few times. gotta be prepared for it
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
March 19 2012 01:49 GMT
#91
Thorzain has the best ideas. Love to see him play even though rooting for Liquid.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
March 19 2012 01:49 GMT
#92
Bad pairing for mouz, their Protosses are weak against Zerg. Probably 3-1 for Liquid if ThorZain defeats Zenio.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
March 19 2012 01:51 GMT
#93
On March 19 2012 10:49 mcc wrote:
Bad pairing for mouz, their Protosses are weak against Zerg. Probably 3-1 for Liquid if ThorZain defeats Zenio.


On paper, I think it was crucial for Mouz to get Mana paired up versus HerO.

In reality though, this might go either way.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
March 19 2012 01:55 GMT
#94
Interesting that Thorzain chose that build given that it's Shattered and Zenio likes his roach ling bane allins.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
March 19 2012 01:57 GMT
#95
So awkward haha.
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
March 19 2012 01:58 GMT
#96
You spooned with your family? That's ok Gretorp. It's better than forking with them.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 19 2012 02:02 GMT
#97
iNc and Gretorp are such a dynamic duo.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
March 19 2012 02:10 GMT
#98
On March 19 2012 11:02 AlternativeEgo wrote:
iNc and Gretorp are such a dynamic duo.


You know, I did not really care for them all too much in Season 1, but these last days of casts have been entertaining me. Good stuff.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 19 2012 02:16 GMT
#99
On March 19 2012 11:10 Porcelina wrote:
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On March 19 2012 11:02 AlternativeEgo wrote:
iNc and Gretorp are such a dynamic duo.


You know, I did not really care for them all too much in Season 1, but these last days of casts have been entertaining me. Good stuff.


Yeah it wasn't exactly smooth sailing back then. They grow up so fast. :´)
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
March 19 2012 02:19 GMT
#100
This is quite a strange game - both players keep forcing trades amongst themselves.
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