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spree
Profile Joined August 2010
United States86 Posts
March 10 2012 13:33 GMT
#2021
On March 10 2012 22:30 neoghaleon55 wrote:
The last 30 days has been insanely awesome for StarCraft II~!

MC won a championship (P)
DRG won a championship (Z)
MKP won a championship (T)

BALANCED!

IMMVP, Nestea, MMA gets kicked to the curb.
Out with the old generations.



Last part of your statement is weird, MC definitely counts as the old generation and MMA looked super strong this tournament before losing to PuMa, he's definitely not on the curb. As for MVP, you're counting him out much too early. Nestea? You might be right.
Hell, it's about TvP.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
March 10 2012 13:33 GMT
#2022
On March 10 2012 22:30 neoghaleon55 wrote:
The last 30 days has been insanely awesome for StarCraft II~!

MC won a championship (P)
DRG won a championship (Z)
MKP won a championship (T)

BALANCED!

IMMVP, Nestea, MMA gets kicked to the curb.
Out with the old generations.



MC, Nestea, MKP, and MVP are all pretty much the same generation >_> IIRC MC and Nestea have been around since the very first GSL, MKP since the second, MVP since the third (in terms of appearing in the tournament itself, I mean). MMA and DRG are the newer players, but even they are hardly new at this point.
ftd.rain
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom539 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 13:36:04
March 10 2012 13:33 GMT
#2023
On March 10 2012 22:27 howLiN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 22:17 avilo wrote:
Recap: Puma ahead in upgrades, ahead in army supply, ahead with third base. Lots of damage done to MC early game...also Puma holds off blink stalker all-in...MC hits 1 storm to win game, also is able to hit 2/2 b4 Terran's 1/1 is even finished and then hits 3/3 while Terran stuck on 2/2 due to chrono boost + cheaper upgrades.

Congrats MC... ....

As a terran you just don't force the engagement up the third's ramp knowing there are chargelots and HTs... MC didn't force the engagement up the rampe of Puma's natural, while Puma did the exact opposite in MC's third.

I don't get what you mean, forcing engagements up ramps vs multiple bunkers won MC many tournaments, including GSLs.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
March 10 2012 13:34 GMT
#2024
time to have fun looking at LoL stream chat :p
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
March 10 2012 13:34 GMT
#2025
On March 10 2012 22:28 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 22:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
SC is not getting smaller at all stop telling yourself and others that because it is simply not true.

Would love to see the number which prove this.


Look at all events in 2012 and tell me which has NOT grown in comparison to the same event in 2011.
Assembly, Shoutcraft, HSC4, IEM etc.

Your problem seems to be that you compare IEM Hannover to MLG Providence and Assembly 2012 to Dreamhack Winter 2011.
JohnnyBlaze420
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia818 Posts
March 10 2012 13:34 GMT
#2026
On March 10 2012 22:32 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 22:29 Recognizable wrote:
On March 10 2012 22:27 Wildmoon wrote:
On March 10 2012 22:26 XiGua wrote:
On March 10 2012 22:23 GoSuChicken wrote:
I mean, Sc2 with IEM kinda failed, considering there were only ~50k viewers, while LoL had and has ~140k
Sad to see, only so view appreciate a great Sc2 tournament :/

SC2 is "dying" compared to LoL.

We need HoTS to spice things up and bring back some of the viewers. But it will never go past 140k views, LoL is a casual game with the stream in the game client which means any player can click on the stream and watch it. Starcraft has a more dedicated community but unfortunately the developer, Blizzard, loses greatly to Riot Games when it comes to promoting the game.


Last GSL had 3 times more viewer than previous GSLs.:D


Weird, I guess it's getting more populair in Korea, because there are less and less people playing on ladder each season.

Doesn't matter too much, does it? I don't play anymore either, but i still watch like always. Pretty sure there are many people like me. HotS will surely make me play again and it will probably boost the SC2 scene again.


im the exact same i haven't played for a couple of months but i still watch a good amount. i dunno just busy and when i get a chance to watch im also generally watching actual sports on the tv at the same time
.lets get weird
yoshi7319
Profile Joined December 2011
76 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 13:37:56
March 10 2012 13:34 GMT
#2027
On March 10 2012 22:30 neoghaleon55 wrote:
The last 30 days has been insanely awesome for StarCraft II~!

MC won a championship (P)
DRG won a championship (Z)
MKP won a championship (T)

BALANCED!

IMMVP, Nestea, MMA gets kicked to the curb.
Out with the old generations.



I´m assuming you mean "old generation" not "oGs" - so yeah, out with MMA. 37yr old guy who played totally bad this weekend and started his starcraft carreer in 1978.
butch
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium684 Posts
March 10 2012 13:34 GMT
#2028
On March 10 2012 22:32 ReDeYe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 22:22 Salteador Neo wrote:
That announcer dude is quite epic indeed xD GJ


Thanks

FUTURE PRESIDENT OF KOREA.

come back to sauce
Marauder Die Die
ichnaschekot
Profile Joined January 2011
380 Posts
March 10 2012 13:34 GMT
#2029
On March 10 2012 22:31 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 22:28 Bashion wrote:
On March 10 2012 22:25 HolyArrow wrote:
On March 10 2012 22:22 nvs. wrote:
On March 10 2012 22:17 avilo wrote:
Recap: Puma ahead in upgrades, ahead in army supply, ahead with third base. Lots of damage done to MC early game...also Puma holds off blink stalker all-in...MC hits 1 storm to win game, also is able to hit 2/2 b4 Terran's 1/1 is even finished and then hits 3/3 while Terran stuck on 2/2 due to chrono boost + cheaper upgrades.

Congrats MC... ....


Dat whiiiiiiine. So good with cheese. -.-

Gratz MC you wrecked this week.


Isn't avilo supposed to be a professional (at least, that's what I gather from his presence in the TLPD)? Kind of sad that he's balance whining in pretty much every LR thread when Protoss wins... not that his balance whine really means anything because if he wants to pull the "I'm better than you so I know what I'm talking about" card then I can find you several Protoss pros leagues better of him that disagree with him (Oz, Genius, for example)


I dont know why he nevers gets banned. If i did the same whine over and over like he does, i would be long gone by now.


Well, professionals get preferential treatment, and understandably so, since they dedicate their lives to the game and are a core aspect of the SC2 community.


Except for the fact that I never heard of someone called avilo.
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
March 10 2012 13:35 GMT
#2030
SC2 is in a good place. Might not be the number one right now, but who the hell cares.

People seem to always want to complain about anything -_-
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
March 10 2012 13:35 GMT
#2031
On March 10 2012 22:34 marcesr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 22:28 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
On March 10 2012 22:27 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
SC is not getting smaller at all stop telling yourself and others that because it is simply not true.

Would love to see the number which prove this.


Look at all events in 2012 and tell me which has NOT grown in comparison to the same event in 2011.
Assembly, Shoutcraft, HSC4, IEM etc.

Your problem seems to be that you compare IEM Hannover to MLG Providence and Assembly 2012 to Dreamhack Winter 2011.

Yea and those guys nearly ALWAYS forgot was IEM does. They fly around the whole f$*? world and host tournaments. China, wtf? Brasil, zomg?!
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
March 10 2012 13:35 GMT
#2032
I just want to say, look at the amount of big tournaments there are for starcraft then look at the amount of big tournaments there are for LoL.

LoL is a good game that a lot of people enjoy. Same for starcraft. The main difference is if i want to watch a starcraft tourney there is usually a rebroadcast of a us timed one. Or i can watch gsl multiple days in the week. IPL have showw matches, team leagues, big events. Then you have the MLGs.

If i had to wait even as little as 2 weeks between tournaments i'd probabaly watch every single one of them and make a point of it. But since i can pick and choose tournaments/games that i want to watch daily i dont watch every tournament.

LoL isnt in that same situation (at the moment). But having other games at a tournament having the big influx of LoL viewers at a tournament is a great thing. It helps these tournaments with their sponsorship/funds etc which in turn helps starcraft. So i really dont see how people can see having league of legends or ANY other game at a tournament a bad thing.

The olympics isnt worse because it has Athletics, cycling, swimming etc. Gaming tournaments arnt worse because they have Sc2, LoL etc
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 13:36:16
March 10 2012 13:36 GMT
#2033
On March 10 2012 22:35 zocktol wrote:
SC2 is in a good place. Might not be the number one right now, but who the hell cares.

People seem to always want to complain about anything -_-


Actually, it is number one of tournaments and prize money overall.
Delicious Insanity
Profile Joined November 2011
Belgium841 Posts
March 10 2012 13:36 GMT
#2034
LMAO.

Crowd is more pumped up for the raffle than for SC. :p
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 10 2012 13:36 GMT
#2035
Free stuff, now the crowd makes a noice.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
March 10 2012 13:36 GMT
#2036
funny how LoL stream has less viewers 20 mins before finals that sc2 had xp
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
March 10 2012 13:36 GMT
#2037
On March 10 2012 22:34 ichnaschekot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 22:31 HolyArrow wrote:
On March 10 2012 22:28 Bashion wrote:
On March 10 2012 22:25 HolyArrow wrote:
On March 10 2012 22:22 nvs. wrote:
On March 10 2012 22:17 avilo wrote:
Recap: Puma ahead in upgrades, ahead in army supply, ahead with third base. Lots of damage done to MC early game...also Puma holds off blink stalker all-in...MC hits 1 storm to win game, also is able to hit 2/2 b4 Terran's 1/1 is even finished and then hits 3/3 while Terran stuck on 2/2 due to chrono boost + cheaper upgrades.

Congrats MC... ....


Dat whiiiiiiine. So good with cheese. -.-

Gratz MC you wrecked this week.


Isn't avilo supposed to be a professional (at least, that's what I gather from his presence in the TLPD)? Kind of sad that he's balance whining in pretty much every LR thread when Protoss wins... not that his balance whine really means anything because if he wants to pull the "I'm better than you so I know what I'm talking about" card then I can find you several Protoss pros leagues better of him that disagree with him (Oz, Genius, for example)


I dont know why he nevers gets banned. If i did the same whine over and over like he does, i would be long gone by now.


Well, professionals get preferential treatment, and understandably so, since they dedicate their lives to the game and are a core aspect of the SC2 community.


Except for the fact that I never heard of someone called avilo.


Just because you never heard of someone doesn't mean they aren't a professional. There are plenty of players that I'm not familiar with that are on teams like Dignitas or Mouz since they aren't part of the "main" line up.
@DreamingBird
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
March 10 2012 13:37 GMT
#2038
On March 10 2012 22:30 neoghaleon55 wrote:
The last 30 days has been insanely awesome for StarCraft II~!

MC won a championship (P)
DRG won a championship (Z)
MKP won a championship (T)

BALANCED!

IMMVP, Nestea, MMA gets kicked to the curb.
Out with the old generations.



MKP was in same finals as Nestea
MC won a GSL before MVP
DRG rose up roughly the same time as MMA
qqK
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany282 Posts
March 10 2012 13:37 GMT
#2039
Why watch LoL (with its awful casters) when dota2 is up?
Delicious Insanity
Profile Joined November 2011
Belgium841 Posts
March 10 2012 13:39 GMT
#2040
How to make people go completely derp : throw fucking shirts...
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