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KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
March 09 2012 12:19 GMT
#1061
On March 09 2012 21:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:15 hrvoje07 wrote:
Oh, rotterdam and bitter always think foreigner can take it, but they always lose 3-0 or 3-1...
It's really shocking how little they follow korean scene.

I follow the Korean scene. And I know Feast is going to take it 3-0 for a fact.
Problem?

Don't mess with Belgium guys! They have....uhm...beer, yeah beer and Feast!!!!! <3
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 09 2012 12:19 GMT
#1062
On March 09 2012 21:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:15 hrvoje07 wrote:
Oh, rotterdam and bitter always think foreigner can take it, but they always lose 3-0 or 3-1...
It's really shocking how little they follow korean scene.

I follow the Korean scene. And I know Feast is going to take it 3-0 for a fact.
Problem?


Willing to put up money? Considering you know for a fact.
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
March 09 2012 12:19 GMT
#1063
On March 09 2012 21:17 Rookstarz wrote:
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On March 09 2012 21:14 Fragile51 wrote:
Lol, Mrbitter is like the funloving guy who's still a kid inside and rotterdam his sidekick that makes sure he gets his shit together eventually :p

Love those two together so much :D


Would have to agree. I'll watch any cast that involves MrBitter/Rotterdam as the commentating duo.

Indeed. I love them, think mostly because they just seem like such awesome guys and have great chemistry. So yeah <3 to them, don't really feel they get the <3 they deserve.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 09 2012 12:19 GMT
#1064
On March 09 2012 21:19 Delicious Insanity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:18 Koshi wrote:
On March 09 2012 21:15 hrvoje07 wrote:
Oh, rotterdam and bitter always think foreigner can take it, but they always lose 3-0 or 3-1...
It's really shocking how little they follow korean scene.

I follow the Korean scene. And I know Feast is going to take it 3-0 for a fact.
Problem?


Bold statement. Let's hope you're right. :D


PvP has always been Killers worst MU, so it might happen.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
March 09 2012 12:19 GMT
#1065
On March 09 2012 21:19 Fragile51 wrote:
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On March 09 2012 21:18 Lann555 wrote:
On March 09 2012 21:16 JayJay_90 wrote:
Kaelaris is great but I'm still sad we don't get Rotterdam and Grubby casting a PvP together.


That's too much Dutch accent for one stream I think


Haha, truth right there :p


Grubby is getting fairly good at hiding it though. Rotterdam....very not so
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 09 2012 12:19 GMT
#1066
Grubby with his shiny shirt and tie on xD ahaha so funny!

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JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
March 09 2012 12:19 GMT
#1067
On March 09 2012 21:18 Lann555 wrote:
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On March 09 2012 21:16 JayJay_90 wrote:
Kaelaris is great but I'm still sad we don't get Rotterdam and Grubby casting a PvP together.


That's too much Dutch accent for one stream I think

No way, dutch accent rocks
Funkydonky
Profile Joined April 2011
950 Posts
March 09 2012 12:19 GMT
#1068
On March 09 2012 21:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:15 hrvoje07 wrote:
Oh, rotterdam and bitter always think foreigner can take it, but they always lose 3-0 or 3-1...
It's really shocking how little they follow korean scene.

I follow the Korean scene. And I know Feast is going to take it 3-0 for a fact.
Problem?

I'm not talking about this series, they do this in every event they cast.
I think feast can take it as well.
Favorite players: Stephano, Mana, Polt, Lucifron, Nerchio
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 09 2012 12:20 GMT
#1069
On March 09 2012 21:19 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:19 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 09 2012 21:18 Lann555 wrote:
On March 09 2012 21:16 JayJay_90 wrote:
Kaelaris is great but I'm still sad we don't get Rotterdam and Grubby casting a PvP together.


That's too much Dutch accent for one stream I think


Haha, truth right there :p


Grubby is getting fairly good at hiding it though. Rotterdam....very not so


Not really, Grubby's dutch accent is very much noticable :p Rotterdam's is just even more noticable.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
March 09 2012 12:20 GMT
#1070
On March 09 2012 21:19 KiNGxXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:18 Koshi wrote:
On March 09 2012 21:15 hrvoje07 wrote:
Oh, rotterdam and bitter always think foreigner can take it, but they always lose 3-0 or 3-1...
It's really shocking how little they follow korean scene.

I follow the Korean scene. And I know Feast is going to take it 3-0 for a fact.
Problem?

Don't mess with Belgium guys! They have....uhm...beer, yeah beer and Feast!!!!! <3


Waffles man. Belgian fucking waffles are the best :D
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
March 09 2012 12:20 GMT
#1071
Damn Grubby is good.
sAviOr...
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
March 09 2012 12:20 GMT
#1072
On March 09 2012 21:15 hrvoje07 wrote:
Oh, rotterdam and bitter always think foreigner can take it, but they always lose 3-0 or 3-1...
It's really shocking how little they follow korean scene.


they follow the korean scene and they know that foreigners should lose, but they always hope and are confident in predicting foreigners to win therefore
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alistarnl
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands144 Posts
March 09 2012 12:20 GMT
#1073
Grubbbbyyyyyy ftw :DDD
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
March 09 2012 12:20 GMT
#1074
Go Feast!
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
March 09 2012 12:21 GMT
#1075
On March 09 2012 21:20 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:19 Lann555 wrote:
On March 09 2012 21:19 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 09 2012 21:18 Lann555 wrote:
On March 09 2012 21:16 JayJay_90 wrote:
Kaelaris is great but I'm still sad we don't get Rotterdam and Grubby casting a PvP together.


That's too much Dutch accent for one stream I think


Haha, truth right there :p


Grubby is getting fairly good at hiding it though. Rotterdam....very not so


Not really, Grubby's dutch accent is very much noticable :p Rotterdam's is just even more noticable.


Hmm...it's still noticeable, but he hides it better then 90% of Dutchmen I know. Or maybe his handsome looks just distract me from noticing it
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
March 09 2012 12:21 GMT
#1076
Grubby. sporting the latest fashion from the Galactic Republic.
Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 12:21:59
March 09 2012 12:21 GMT
#1077
On March 09 2012 21:16 synaptik wrote:
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On March 09 2012 21:10 Wegandi wrote:
I'd say Stephano is faster than MMA pretty easily. Watch some of his games, and he is up over 400+. He also has immaculate drop defense, which is damn impressive. Would love to see MMA play Stephano :p


this fanboyism is getting out of hand.

Faster != better. Stephano may be faster, but not better, his decision makings vs top terrans in late game are questionable sometimes, if not completely wrong.

Considering how close and nail biting the games between Polt and Stephano were, and given how Stephano destroyed Puma (who is doing quite well at IEM btw ), MMA vs Stephano would for sure be interesting, even if the winner would clearly be MMA. Only DRG seems to be the only zerg able to face terrans on an almost equal ground atm.

I hope Feast will do well, but I fear a 3 - 1 or 3 - 0 loss :s Killer destroyed Hasu in PvP, and that's no small fea(s)t (sorryyyyyyyyyy)
Shadow and dust
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 09 2012 12:21 GMT
#1078
On March 09 2012 21:20 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:15 hrvoje07 wrote:
Oh, rotterdam and bitter always think foreigner can take it, but they always lose 3-0 or 3-1...
It's really shocking how little they follow korean scene.


they follow the korean scene and they know that foreigners should lose, but they always hope and are confident in predicting foreigners to win therefore


Predictions aren't about hope, they are about weighing probabilities. Admitting that someone is an underdog doesn't undercut the tension, and it makes upsets even more dramatic!
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Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
March 09 2012 12:22 GMT
#1079
On March 09 2012 21:06 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:03 Valikyr wrote:
On March 09 2012 20:58 zefreak wrote:
Is MMA the best sc2 player now? Wonder if artosis and tasteless will ever accept that.

Don't judge korean players from foreign tournaments. GSL results is what will decide who the best player is. DRG is the best because he's been doing best lately in Korea.


DRG is one of the best but he does still only have 1 championship and It was only november when MMA beat DRG in blizzcup..

Plus nobody knows what would have happened if MMA wasn't sick during the ro8 against alive. MMA vs DRG rematch finals would have been so amazing.

True, I don't disagree but we can't say that MMA is the best because he does well at IEM. We can say he's the best because he's doing well in GSL.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
March 09 2012 12:22 GMT
#1080
On March 09 2012 21:19 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 21:15 Femari wrote:
On March 09 2012 21:11 Wildmoon wrote:
On March 09 2012 21:09 Femari wrote:
On March 09 2012 21:04 Wildmoon wrote:
On March 09 2012 21:03 Valikyr wrote:
On March 09 2012 20:58 zefreak wrote:
Is MMA the best sc2 player now? Wonder if artosis and tasteless will ever accept that.

Don't judge korean players from foreign tournaments. GSL results is what will decide who the best player is. DRG is the best because he's been doing best lately in Korea.


He is the best at TvZ but at TvT and TvP there are people who are better than him.

TvP is easily his weakest matchup but it's not a glaring flaw.

And at TvT I still say he's top 3-5 in the world.


That's why I can't say he is the best player in the world. I could call MVP by that title in 2011.

But it's 2012 now. DRG and MMA are on equal footing right now imo, and if I have to say one of the two then DRG is above MMA rn based on results.

And Mvp seems to not being doing well lately as well as Nestea so it's really easy to put MMA and DRG above those two. I don't know if I could even rank Mvp in the top 5 right now. DRG, MMA, Genius, MKP, Oz, PartinG, etc are all doing better.


I said it pretty clear that I called him the best player in 2011 not now. This is just the beginning of 2012. We should wait a bit more to see if who will truly be the best in 2012.

We're not saying that MMA and DRG will dominate 2012 (though it is quite likely, it's hard to see them both falling off), but it's really easy to call them the best two players in the world right now. Shouldn't have to wait a while to see who is the best in the game at this moment.
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