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ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
March 06 2012 12:29 GMT
#1381
Mr Bitter and Apollo!! Oh my god awesome! 2 of my favorite casters! <3
Luppa <3
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 12:30:19
March 06 2012 12:29 GMT
#1382
Lol..lets not forget that MMA lost to Vines in the GSTL. Let's not get ahead of ourselves declaring him two levels above MC.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
March 06 2012 12:30 GMT
#1383
On March 06 2012 21:29 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:27 Wildmoon wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:25 Steveling wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.


He is two levels above MC.


As overall player then yes but in TvP no.

Do you think MC's PvT is any good? He only does gateway all ins lol


Pretty successfully though.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
March 06 2012 12:30 GMT
#1384
On March 06 2012 21:29 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:27 Wildmoon wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:25 Steveling wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.


He is two levels above MC.


As overall player then yes but in TvP no.

Do you think MC's PvT is any good? He only does gateway all ins lol


He actually win with it.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
March 06 2012 12:30 GMT
#1385
On March 06 2012 21:29 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:27 Wildmoon wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:25 Steveling wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.


He is two levels above MC.


As overall player then yes but in TvP no.

Do you think MC's PvT is any good? He only does gateway all ins lol


Here we go....
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 06 2012 12:30 GMT
#1386
On March 06 2012 21:29 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:27 Wildmoon wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:25 Steveling wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.


He is two levels above MC.


As overall player then yes but in TvP no.

Do you think MC's PvT is any good? He only does gateway all ins lol


And wins doing it.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 06 2012 12:30 GMT
#1387
On March 06 2012 21:28 Emptyness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:25 cyclone4tw wrote:
Is Strelok already out?
I wish they will show WhiteRa - Nerchio on the main stream :/


Yes, Strelok is pretty much out - he lost his first 3 games - now he needs to win against Violet AND MMA - which is hardly unlikely


and his best map score possible is 6-6 if he 2-0s both ViOlet and MMA. Which is pretty much impossible.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Presidenten
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden777 Posts
March 06 2012 12:30 GMT
#1388
(P)JYP vs (P)Socke coming up on imbatv, important game for anyone rooting for foreigners. If Socke loses, he will have a hard time advancing and we might just see three koreans advance out of group A
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
March 06 2012 12:30 GMT
#1389
On March 06 2012 21:29 Heavenly wrote:
Lol..lets not forget that MMA lost to Vines in the GSTL. Let's not get ahead of ourselves declaring him two levels above MC.


But Vines is really, really good lately. He may be the next best thing.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Blacktion
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1148 Posts
March 06 2012 12:30 GMT
#1390
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.

Not sure why everyones so focused on MC. I think Supernova has a decent shot at taking out MMA if they meet. Supernovas looked pretty good recently, and MMAs TvT, while impresive, isnt always his strongest play.
MMAs success in TvT seems to come down to how well he has prepared, he prepares well he wins (vs MVP GSL October final, wins using clearly prepared builds specific to MVP and the map). And if he doesnt prepare so well he can be beaten (vs Polt GSL super tournament, vs MKP AoL1, and a more recent one i cant remember)
Where's Boxer, there's victory! - figq
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
March 06 2012 12:32 GMT
#1391
socke vs JYP on the 3 sidestreams, english ---> imbatv.

winner has damn good chances to advance
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Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
March 06 2012 12:32 GMT
#1392
On March 06 2012 21:30 Blacktion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.

Not sure why everyones so focused on MC. I think Supernova has a decent shot at taking out MMA if they meet. Supernovas looked pretty good recently, and MMAs TvT, while impresive, isnt always his strongest play.
MMAs success in TvT seems to come down to how well he has prepared, he prepares well he wins (vs MVP GSL October final, wins using clearly prepared builds specific to MVP and the map). And if he doesnt prepare so well he can be beaten (vs Polt GSL super tournament, vs MKP AoL1, and a more recent one i cant remember)


ye, MMA's TvT is strong but it doesn't look as dominant as MVP's TvT in 2011. Supernova has a chance.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
March 06 2012 12:32 GMT
#1393
On March 06 2012 21:29 Heavenly wrote:
Lol..lets not forget that MMA lost to Vines in the GSTL. Let's not get ahead of ourselves declaring him two levels above MC.


GSTL has the sickest, most wierd race win ratio ever.

Think Vines and Creator have pretty much single handedly skewed the ratio of Protoss wins in that tournament to levels not seen in Korea ever. If you look at how a lot of the matches have played out, it has been a few opener games with some people winning, then a Protoss going on a three or four winning streak, only to be countered by another Protoss with the same reverse streak and then a deciding game vs an ace player.

Not saying anything about players, but the statistic is phenomenally strange.
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
March 06 2012 12:32 GMT
#1394
On March 06 2012 21:24 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.


In that matchup, I do not think he is either. But I think MMA in general should be held to be a higher level than MC.

Also, if we get to see MMA v MC, I think a lot depends on what kind of version of MC shows up. We might just see super aggression and very one sided game, where one defense is all it takes to win it or MC busts greedy Terran openers. It is just hard to call how MC's PvTs will play out in general.



Finally, I am happy to read sth good. I agree, it depends on which Mc we will see. If Mc goes 2 base all the time, he is likely to lose. But if Mc plays solid macro game, he has a good chance. Anyone watched Mc's stream lately understand what I am saying.
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 06 2012 12:34 GMT
#1395
On March 06 2012 21:32 double620 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:24 Porcelina wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.


In that matchup, I do not think he is either. But I think MMA in general should be held to be a higher level than MC.

Also, if we get to see MMA v MC, I think a lot depends on what kind of version of MC shows up. We might just see super aggression and very one sided game, where one defense is all it takes to win it or MC busts greedy Terran openers. It is just hard to call how MC's PvTs will play out in general.



Finally, I am happy to read sth good. I agree, it depends on which Mc we will see. If Mc goes 2 base all the time, he is likely to lose. But if Mc plays solid macro game, he has a good chance. Anyone watched Mc's stream lately understand what I am saying.


MC is more likely to win if he two base all in's. It's what he's good at and MMA has a tendency to be a bit greedy.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
March 06 2012 12:34 GMT
#1396
On March 06 2012 21:29 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:27 Wildmoon wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:25 Steveling wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.


He is two levels above MC.


As overall player then yes but in TvP no.

Do you think MC's PvT is any good? He only does gateway all ins lol


I am not sure about this...you are trolling or just uninformed?

On a different note :

Does anyone with an HD pass have MAJOR lag issues on all of the HD streams. I checked my internet(16mbitDL/1mbitUp - should be more than sufficient to view at least 1 HD stream lag free...), my browser, reinstalled flash player etc. - It´s not on my part, and honestly I am not one to whine but that pisses me off a little. I also did not have that for any of the other ESL events.

Can someone pls confirm or negate what I am saying.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
March 06 2012 12:35 GMT
#1397
Is there a stream (or going to be) for MMA vs Killer?
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
March 06 2012 12:37 GMT
#1398
On March 06 2012 21:34 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:32 double620 wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:24 Porcelina wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.


In that matchup, I do not think he is either. But I think MMA in general should be held to be a higher level than MC.

Also, if we get to see MMA v MC, I think a lot depends on what kind of version of MC shows up. We might just see super aggression and very one sided game, where one defense is all it takes to win it or MC busts greedy Terran openers. It is just hard to call how MC's PvTs will play out in general.



Finally, I am happy to read sth good. I agree, it depends on which Mc we will see. If Mc goes 2 base all the time, he is likely to lose. But if Mc plays solid macro game, he has a good chance. Anyone watched Mc's stream lately understand what I am saying.


MC is more likely to win if he two base all in's. It's what he's good at and MMA has a tendency to be a bit greedy.


It sounds like you never watched Mc's macro pvt.
Ippo
Profile Joined November 2010
708 Posts
March 06 2012 12:37 GMT
#1399
Socke!!!!!!
GoingGoingGone
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Slovakia529 Posts
March 06 2012 12:37 GMT
#1400
Socke takes game 1 vs JYP, nice!!
Busy night, but there's always room for another... unless the servers are down.
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