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Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 12:22:34
March 06 2012 12:21 GMT
#1361
On March 06 2012 21:19 ydeer1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:13 Wildmoon wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:11 ydeer1993 wrote:
With no DRG i feel like the ONLY person with a slight chance of stopping mma in this tournament is MC but only a slight chance


Slight chance? MC's PvT is far better than MMA's TvP.



It's slayers, they will have studied MC because he is the only top tier player there, MC is all about 2 base play and MMA will have builds to counter this, dont under estimate the power of Slayers tactics and help from the emperor,

Also overall MMA is 4-1 vs MC


MC plays a ton of different builds. The only standard style you could possibly say he has is maybe a 4 gate poke to punish a third cc, back off if the defenses are too strong, then take his third and double forge. I've seen that maybe the most but he does a ton of other stuff too, and the recent 3 base 8 gate build in Korea seems to favor MC's play a lot and could lead to some macro games. Maybe some kind of ghost timing since MC never rushes colossi but those builds are fairly ineffective since the nerf.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 12:22:03
March 06 2012 12:21 GMT
#1362
On March 06 2012 21:12 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:12 Wildmoon wrote:
Is there any Korean Protoss there at IEM? If no then I don't think anyone can beat MMA.


Yes there is one. The best one.

WhiteRa or JYP?
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
March 06 2012 12:21 GMT
#1363
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
March 06 2012 12:24 GMT
#1364
People lose so quickly confidence in the Kratoss Protoss. MMA beat a lame JYP, and an overwhelmed Socke. It's not like he beat Genius and Hero and MC is next in line to the rape.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
March 06 2012 12:24 GMT
#1365
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.


In that matchup, I do not think he is either. But I think MMA in general should be held to be a higher level than MC.

Also, if we get to see MMA v MC, I think a lot depends on what kind of version of MC shows up. We might just see super aggression and very one sided game, where one defense is all it takes to win it or MC busts greedy Terran openers. It is just hard to call how MC's PvTs will play out in general.
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
March 06 2012 12:24 GMT
#1366
Wow, Strelok looked pissed when typing gg
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 06 2012 12:25 GMT
#1367
MMA looking unstoppable...
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
silverstyle
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1108 Posts
March 06 2012 12:25 GMT
#1368
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.


I agree, MMA has been facing primarily foreigners and JYP, who is pretty crap in PvT. MC at least is on equal level PvT as MMA is TvP. But if MMA can get past MC i feel he will take the whole thing no problem. Perhaps only supernova will put up an opposition.
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Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
March 06 2012 12:25 GMT
#1369
Strelok is out of the tournament
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
cyclone4tw
Profile Joined May 2008
Russian Federation32 Posts
March 06 2012 12:25 GMT
#1370
Is Strelok already out?
I wish they will show WhiteRa - Nerchio on the main stream :/
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
March 06 2012 12:25 GMT
#1371
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.


He is two levels above MC.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
March 06 2012 12:26 GMT
#1372
On March 06 2012 21:24 ceaRshaf wrote:
People lose so quickly confidence in the Kratoss Protoss. MMA beat a lame JYP, and an overwhelmed Socke. It's not like he beat Genius and Hero and MC is next in line to the rape.


He beat ViOlet too, and all of those were 2-0, he is playing really well. MMA should go deep for sure and has a good chance of winning. He is a great player. MC has a decent chance too though, true enough. I have a hard time imagining anyone else winning though besides those two. (Maybe Supernova can restore my faith in OGS, but I doubt it)
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Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
March 06 2012 12:26 GMT
#1373
On March 06 2012 21:25 silverstyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.


I agree, MMA has been facing primarily foreigners and JYP, who is pretty crap in PvT. MC at least is on equal level PvT as MMA is TvP. But if MMA can get past MC i feel he will take the whole thing no problem. Perhaps only supernova will put up an opposition.


Mana also has a very strong PvT style that differs from what MMA may be used to in Korea. He's taken down a lot of good Korean terrans very convincingly.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
March 06 2012 12:27 GMT
#1374
On March 06 2012 21:25 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.


He is two levels above MC.


Yeah right.... You can't even back that up with recent events.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
March 06 2012 12:27 GMT
#1375
On March 06 2012 21:25 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.


He is two levels above MC.


As overall player then yes but in TvP no.
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
March 06 2012 12:27 GMT
#1376
Socke vs JYP on imba.tv next
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
March 06 2012 12:28 GMT
#1377
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.


I'd disagree strongly with that; based on more than just today MMA is a level above MC. MMA and DRG are pretty much the best, most consistent players in the world right now and MC unfortunately isn't up there any more imo. He's still really really good but MMA is better.

Then again the state of MMA's TvP is always a little suspect since we don't see it all too often, so if they do play MC could come away with the win.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
March 06 2012 12:28 GMT
#1378
Dear lord Apollo you are awesome. <3 <3 <3
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
March 06 2012 12:28 GMT
#1379
On March 06 2012 21:25 cyclone4tw wrote:
Is Strelok already out?
I wish they will show WhiteRa - Nerchio on the main stream :/


Yes, Strelok is pretty much out - he lost his first 3 games - now he needs to win against Violet AND MMA - which is hardly unlikely
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
March 06 2012 12:29 GMT
#1380
On March 06 2012 21:27 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 21:25 Steveling wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:21 double620 wrote:
On March 06 2012 21:18 Bagi wrote:
MMA looks just unbeatable right now, even MC looks far more vulnerable compared to him.

I'd say hes a level above everyone there and more than likely to win the whole thing.



Not really. Bomber destroyed Socke like MMA just did and Mc could destroy Bomber. I am not going to say Mc is a favor, but MMA is not a level above Mc.


He is two levels above MC.


As overall player then yes but in TvP no.

Do you think MC's PvT is any good? He only does gateway all ins lol
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