• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:17
CEST 00:17
KST 07:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format12[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!5Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back12BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) BGE Stara Zagora to be held again in June 2025 Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back Serral wins HomeStory Cup 29
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Etiquete rules in Asl? Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool
Tourneys
[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5552 users

[IEM] WC - Day 1 @ ceBiT - Page 122

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 120 121 122 123 124 131 Next
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 06 2012 17:20 GMT
#2421
On March 07 2012 02:17 Fruitme wrote:
That shows you can beat the best with APM below 80


Seems to be true for Protoss and to some extent Terran (Goody, Sjow), we have yet to see a Zerg with really low APM and bad mechanics have any degree of success...
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 06 2012 17:20 GMT
#2422
On March 07 2012 02:19 MBH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:18 Seraphone wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:17 Fruitme wrote:
That shows you can beat the best with APM below 80


In PvP.


PvP is the american dream of Sc2, everythings possible.


lol, thats pretty accurate :p
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 17:23:16
March 06 2012 17:20 GMT
#2423
Pretty tough, both groups the 4th place player has beaten the 3rd place player and failed to go through

Groups are too big, too many pointless games for one side during the 5th matches.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 06 2012 17:21 GMT
#2424
On March 07 2012 02:20 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:17 Fruitme wrote:
That shows you can beat the best with APM below 80


Seems to be true for Protoss and to some extent Terran (Goody, Sjow), we have yet to see a Zerg with really low APM and bad mechanics have any degree of success...


Who have goody and sjow beaten that can be considered the best?
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
March 06 2012 17:21 GMT
#2425
On March 07 2012 02:20 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:19 MBH wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:18 Seraphone wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:17 Fruitme wrote:
That shows you can beat the best with APM below 80


In PvP.


PvP is the american dream of Sc2, everythings possible.


lol, thats pretty accurate :p


thats pretty hilarious :D
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 06 2012 17:21 GMT
#2426
just checked the results... so frustrating for socke... :-/
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
March 06 2012 17:21 GMT
#2427
On March 07 2012 02:20 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:17 Fruitme wrote:
That shows you can beat the best with APM below 80


Seems to be true for Protoss and to some extent Terran (Goody, Sjow), we have yet to see a Zerg with really low APM and bad mechanics have any degree of success...


I love how you threw in the "bad mechanics" part to subtly imply that zerg is under powered compared to protoss and terran. Very classy
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 06 2012 17:21 GMT
#2428
On March 07 2012 02:20 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:17 Fruitme wrote:
That shows you can beat the best with APM below 80


Seems to be true for Protoss and to some extent Terran (Goody, Sjow), we have yet to see a Zerg with really low APM and bad mechanics have any degree of success...


But Stephano only have 350 average APM !
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
FluoCrazyKenny
Profile Joined July 2011
France90 Posts
March 06 2012 17:21 GMT
#2429
On March 07 2012 02:19 Zealot Orgy wrote:
Lol Bitter, "people in your group will never be in your same bracket before the finals"


3 players get through, how do you explain that?


If 1st and 2nd they will met on final. If 2nd and 3rd, they will met in semi-final.

Great matches today. Can't wait for all the matches tomorrow !
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
March 06 2012 17:21 GMT
#2430
On March 07 2012 02:20 Full.tilt wrote:
Pretty tough, both groups the 4th place player has beaten the 3rd place player and failed to go through


isnt elfi 2nd and hasu 3rd? hasu won over nerchio.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
March 06 2012 17:21 GMT
#2431
On March 07 2012 02:21 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:20 sitromit wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:17 Fruitme wrote:
That shows you can beat the best with APM below 80


Seems to be true for Protoss and to some extent Terran (Goody, Sjow), we have yet to see a Zerg with really low APM and bad mechanics have any degree of success...


Who have goody and sjow beaten that can be considered the best?

Well Goody did beat Nestea, but... Nestea played at best... questionable.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
March 06 2012 17:22 GMT
#2432
On March 07 2012 02:17 songohan wrote:
mc isnt good at pvp, he has no understanding of the game and it shows
his micro is top 3 but not enough when you have to think in a mirror matchup


yeah ok, MC still advances out of group full of protoss

Hasuobs > elfi
MC > Hasuobs
elfi > MC

how can you get anything for that and from the matchup?
you live and you learn
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
March 06 2012 17:22 GMT
#2433
On March 07 2012 02:20 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:17 Fruitme wrote:
That shows you can beat the best with APM below 80


Seems to be true for Protoss and to some extent Terran (Goody, Sjow), we have yet to see a Zerg with really low APM and bad mechanics have any degree of success...

I'm not sure but doesn't Violet have really low apm? I remember him saying that in an interview.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
March 06 2012 17:22 GMT
#2434
On March 07 2012 02:21 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:20 sitromit wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:17 Fruitme wrote:
That shows you can beat the best with APM below 80


Seems to be true for Protoss and to some extent Terran (Goody, Sjow), we have yet to see a Zerg with really low APM and bad mechanics have any degree of success...


But Stephano only have 350 average APM !


lol he doesn't.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 06 2012 17:22 GMT
#2435
On March 07 2012 02:21 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:20 sitromit wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:17 Fruitme wrote:
That shows you can beat the best with APM below 80


Seems to be true for Protoss and to some extent Terran (Goody, Sjow), we have yet to see a Zerg with really low APM and bad mechanics have any degree of success...


Who have goody and sjow beaten that can be considered the best?


Goody beat Nestea a lon time ago.
Sjow was a contender to beat code S terran in TvT during a while. ( going toe to toe against Bomber for example )
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
March 06 2012 17:22 GMT
#2436
On March 07 2012 02:21 Tewks44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:20 sitromit wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:17 Fruitme wrote:
That shows you can beat the best with APM below 80


Seems to be true for Protoss and to some extent Terran (Goody, Sjow), we have yet to see a Zerg with really low APM and bad mechanics have any degree of success...


I love how you threw in the "bad mechanics" part to subtly imply that zerg is under powered compared to protoss and terran. Very classy

To be honest it's not even that accurate; while their APM is low they are usually quite good on the mechanics.

Goody's nickname of the supply block terran however does seam warranted at times.
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
March 06 2012 17:22 GMT
#2437
On March 07 2012 02:21 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:20 sitromit wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:17 Fruitme wrote:
That shows you can beat the best with APM below 80


Seems to be true for Protoss and to some extent Terran (Goody, Sjow), we have yet to see a Zerg with really low APM and bad mechanics have any degree of success...


Who have goody and sjow beaten that can be considered the best?


Goody beat Nestea in TSL3 and Stephano at a LAN Semifinal.
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
March 06 2012 17:22 GMT
#2438
On March 07 2012 02:21 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:20 sitromit wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:17 Fruitme wrote:
That shows you can beat the best with APM below 80


Seems to be true for Protoss and to some extent Terran (Goody, Sjow), we have yet to see a Zerg with really low APM and bad mechanics have any degree of success...


Who have goody and sjow beaten that can be considered the best?

They have both beaten good Korean players if not the best which probably serves his point just as well.
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
March 06 2012 17:23 GMT
#2439
aaand MC still takes first. Hasu fail...
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
March 06 2012 17:23 GMT
#2440
On March 07 2012 02:21 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:20 sitromit wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:17 Fruitme wrote:
That shows you can beat the best with APM below 80


Seems to be true for Protoss and to some extent Terran (Goody, Sjow), we have yet to see a Zerg with really low APM and bad mechanics have any degree of success...


Who have goody and sjow beaten that can be considered the best?

If you're talking outside of Korea: everyone. With Koreans included, I guess it also applies to TvZ as Goody beat Nestea (who was the best zerg back then)
Prev 1 120 121 122 123 124 131 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
17:00
Mid Season Playoffs
ShoWTimE vs Krystianer
SteadfastSC197
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 770
SteadfastSC 197
CosmosSc2 58
StarCraft: Brood War
910 67
Counter-Strike
minikerr47
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0187
Other Games
gofns9897
tarik_tv5733
Liquid`Hasu174
shahzam122
XaKoH 99
NeuroSwarm87
ViBE77
UpATreeSC73
Trikslyr39
JuggernautJason24
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2333
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 119
• mYiSmile113
• Response 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 79
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1412
Other Games
• imaqtpie1256
• Shiphtur325
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10h 44m
CrankTV Team League
12h 44m
WardiTV Qualifier
13h 44m
Epic.LAN
14h 44m
Big Brain Bouts
17h 44m
SHIN vs Elazer
Percival vs Nicoract
Reynor vs Lambo
Replay Cast
1d 1h
RSL Revival
1d 10h
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
1d 11h
Epic.LAN
1d 14h
IPSL
1d 17h
Dragon vs Hawk
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-13
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.