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Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
March 11 2012 15:35 GMT
#101
Awesomeee! :D
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
agahamsorr0w
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands359 Posts
March 12 2012 23:47 GMT
#102
Cant you make the team league open to any team? :D i already made a small team with decent players but the only thing that unites us is our passion for starcraft!
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
March 13 2012 10:21 GMT
#103
Yeah - I think it's a good idea to open the teamleague completely. Whilst enrolling a team you'll be able to specify whether you're from a school/university/company or just friends. No way we would turn your team down
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
Giku
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands368 Posts
March 13 2012 10:28 GMT
#104
So you're gonna make a huge event from scratch and only in January?

Maybe start small, see the interest and begin in september, maybe even in April/May with an online tournament.
Let the music be the fuse that'll spark my soul
Paulio
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands60 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 10:36:22
March 13 2012 10:32 GMT
#105
On March 13 2012 19:28 Giku wrote:
So you're gonna make a huge event from scratch and only in January?

Maybe start small, see the interest and begin in september, maybe even in April/May with an online tournament.


Did you even read anything lol? There will be a smaller tourny in Nijmegen, which will be 'practice' if you will for the nationwide tournament. Threads like these are meant to spread the word and gather interest for the 2013 tournament.

EDIT:

@VanCaspel: how do you want to spread the word across the different schools/universities? Like i stated before i study at the EUR and i've heard people talking about sc2 already. But how do i reach out to those students; i doubt they are TL users...Maybe some official posters? I'll try to figure out if I can promote this in Rotterdam.
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 10:36:12
March 13 2012 10:35 GMT
#106
@Giku: It does seem daunting, but remember: running an online tournament (which most of this is) is not that hard. We only need a properly functioning website, and obviously: participants. I think that there's enough time to arrange both before January.

Then there's the offline finals which take more effort, but currently they're over a year away (April 2013), so I think it's completely possible to be ready in time.

And also: we're doing a practise run with the NSSL currently

@Paulio: thanks, ik was spuit 11
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
Giku
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands368 Posts
March 13 2012 10:36 GMT
#107
On March 13 2012 19:32 Paulio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 19:28 Giku wrote:
So you're gonna make a huge event from scratch and only in January?

Maybe start small, see the interest and begin in september, maybe even in April/May with an online tournament.


Did you even read anything lol? There will be a smaller tourny in Nijmegen, which will be 'practice' if you will for the nationwide tournament. Threads like these are meant to spread the word and gather interest for the 2013 tournament.


People are more urged to join a Nijmegen event if they live there, therefor it's totally not comparable, that's what I mean
There should be a nationwide-'test' before the main event.
Let the music be the fuse that'll spark my soul
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
March 13 2012 10:37 GMT
#108
@Giku: but what would a nationwide 'test' accomplish? Participants from other parts of The Netherlands don't handle differently from those from Nijmegen. In other words: how would a nationwide test not be a nationwide tournament like we're setting up?
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
Giku
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands368 Posts
March 13 2012 10:38 GMT
#109
On March 13 2012 19:32 Paulio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 19:28 Giku wrote:
So you're gonna make a huge event from scratch and only in January?

Maybe start small, see the interest and begin in september, maybe even in April/May with an online tournament.


Did you even read anything lol? There will be a smaller tourny in Nijmegen, which will be 'practice' if you will for the nationwide tournament. Threads like these are meant to spread the word and gather interest for the 2013 tournament.


People are more urged to join a Nijmegen event if they live there, therefor it's totally not comparable, that's what I mean
There should be a nationwide-'test' before the main event.

On March 13 2012 19:35 VanCaspel wrote:
@Giku: It does seem daunting, but remember: running an online tournament (which most of this is) is not that hard. We only need a properly functioning website, and obviously: participants. I think that there's enough time to arrange both before January.

Then there's the offline finals which take more effort, but currently they're over a year away (April 2013), so I think it's completely possible to be ready in time.

And also: we're doing a practise run with the NSSL currently

@Paulio: thanks, ik was spuit 11

I know, that's what I mean: Start in September, that's 6 months from now, should be sufficient to get atleast a finals/finals bracket in a small venue with a few sponsors, doesn't have to be big, but it makes you notice the interest.
Hell I don't study marketing or anything, so I wouldnt know for sure, just makes it more safe, then again, less epic if it does work out this way
Let the music be the fuse that'll spark my soul
Paulio
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands60 Posts
March 13 2012 10:39 GMT
#110
On March 13 2012 19:36 Giku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2012 19:32 Paulio wrote:
On March 13 2012 19:28 Giku wrote:
So you're gonna make a huge event from scratch and only in January?

Maybe start small, see the interest and begin in september, maybe even in April/May with an online tournament.


Did you even read anything lol? There will be a smaller tourny in Nijmegen, which will be 'practice' if you will for the nationwide tournament. Threads like these are meant to spread the word and gather interest for the 2013 tournament.


People are more urged to join a Nijmegen event if they live there, therefor it's totally not comparable, that's what I mean
There should be a nationwide-'test' before the main event.


OK when you put it that way it sounds better haha. But like the Nijmegen one i think the bulk of the tournament wil be played online, with the top(insert number) players competing live in a venue. Not sure tho, VanCaspel might elaborate =)
Giku
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands368 Posts
March 13 2012 10:41 GMT
#111
On March 13 2012 19:37 VanCaspel wrote:
@Giku: but what would a nationwide 'test' accomplish? Participants from other parts of The Netherlands don't handle differently from those from Nijmegen. In other words: how would a nationwide test not be a nationwide tournament like we're setting up?

What I meant is that the interest from locals is not representative for nationwide interest, meaning: People need to be urged to travel(=€) and spend (a) whole day(s)..
Let the music be the fuse that'll spark my soul
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 10:44:34
March 13 2012 10:43 GMT
#112
Yep: most of the tournament will be online, only the semi-finals and finals will be played live.

@Giku: thanks - you're right that we should be careful not to hype this up and then fail. But I do think that with careful preparation we can make the first edition all it needs to be. A smaller pre-edition might be something to consider though, maybe just as a test for the website (on which we'll put a system where players can upload replays and results). We'll have to see if there's time for that.

Edit: as far as travelling is concerned: again - the national edition will be mostly online. Only the last rounds of the bracket will be played at a live event, so there won't be a lot of travelling involved.
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
Zyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands564 Posts
March 13 2012 10:46 GMT
#113
Getting enough dutchees to sign up shouldn't be a huge issue i'd guess. Especially since it's open to all skill levels and there is plenty of time to spread the word. That last part is gonna be crucial though.

Anyways awesome initiative, hope it's going to succeed!
ret * Leenock * DiMAGA * Grubby * FBH
Paulio
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands60 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 10:53:10
March 13 2012 10:49 GMT
#114
On March 13 2012 19:43 VanCaspel wrote:
Yep: most of the tournament will be online, only the semi-finals and finals will be played live.

@Giku: thanks - you're right that we should be careful not to hype this up and then fail. But I do think that with careful preparation we can make the first edition all it needs to be. A smaller pre-edition might be something to consider though, maybe just as a test for the website (on which we'll put a system where players can upload replays and results). We'll have to see if there's time for that.

Edit: as far as travelling is concerned: again - the national edition will be mostly online. Only the last rounds of the bracket will be played at a live event, so there won't be a lot of travelling involved.


I agree with the careful hyping, maybe an online-only tournament first to get an indication of the amount of players interested in Dutch tournaments?

EDIT: I used to play Halo3 a lot a couple of years ago and there was a small Dutch community that used a website called halo3forum.nl, maybe it's an idea to create a similar site for the Dutch SC2 community i.e. starcraft2forum.nl?
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 10:54:32
March 13 2012 10:52 GMT
#115
How to ensure that only Dutch citizens are participating?


When registering, make it so that you need to fill in your adress. Somebody then needs to make a program which searches through internet databases to see if that adress is in the Netherlands.

Edit: On second thought, this doesn't work. Somebody could just search for a dutch adress.
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
March 13 2012 10:52 GMT
#116
@Paulio: I think that if the NSSL live finals are successful (that is: if it draws an audience) it's safe to assume that the national edition will do the same. We'll have to wait and see what happens in Nijmegen.

And yes: I do plan to be professional about promotion. Depending on how much money we get, there might be facilities like sets of posters you can get to promote the tournament on your school/uni/company/whatever, and in any case there will be an official poster available for download and distribution.

Also: it would be great to have representatives from (for example) universities who actively try to get student's attention through newsletters, mailinglists, etc, and who try to set up teams for the team league
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 10:55:42
March 13 2012 10:54 GMT
#117
@Recognizable: Good idea! Of course it's easy to fill out a fake address, but we can't go asking for passport numbers or anything

Ah: and by the way! That would allow non-Dutch citizens living in The Netherlands to join the tournament. That's probably ok, but we'll have to think about it. What if, say, an Italian student who comes here for a semester enrolls with his Dutch address and wins the tournament? That would be a bit strange...
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
March 13 2012 10:55 GMT
#118
On March 13 2012 19:54 VanCaspel wrote:
@Recognizable: Good idea! Of course it's easy to fill out a fake address, but we can't go asking for passport numbers or anything


Yeah, I guess we as a community should just be wary of non dutch players and report them so they can be disqualified.
Paulio
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands60 Posts
March 13 2012 10:55 GMT
#119
On March 13 2012 19:52 VanCaspel wrote:
@Paulio: I think that if the NSSL live finals are successful (that is: if it draws an audience) it's safe to assume that the national edition will do the same. We'll have to wait and see what happens in Nijmegen.

And yes: I do plan to be professional about promotion. Depending on how much money we get, there might be facilities like sets of posters you can get to promote the tournament on your school/uni/company/whatever, and in any case there will be an official poster available for download and distribution.

Also: it would be great to have representatives from (for example) universities who actively try to get student's attention through newsletters, mailinglists, etc, and who try to set up teams for the team league


Well actually i was born in Nijmegen and lived close to it before moving to Rotterdam. I go to my parents' place regularly in the weekends so you might see me at the live event in Nijmegen ^^
VanCaspel
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands250 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-13 10:58:02
March 13 2012 10:57 GMT
#120
@Recognizable: what we're going to do in Nijmegen is ask those players who make it to the brackets to send in a copy of their 'registration card' of the university, so that we know that at least the top 16 will actually be RU or HAN-students. We could do something similar with the DSCL, where we ask those that get to, say, the round of 64, to send us a copy of their passport or otherwise prove their Dutchness

@Paulio: see you then!
Dutch StarCraft League - www.DSCL.nl
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