@halfies: speaking Dutch is not a requirement as far as I'm concerned, but I still wonder. To me it makes sense that only Dutch citizens can participate in the Dutch StarCraft League, otherwise we might as well call it the StarCraft League. Being Dutch is about more than just living in The Netherlands, I guess...

@Deckkie: you should definitely try to get a team from the UvA together

Pixel.

Netherlands287 Posts

March 09 2012 21:00 GMT

#83

This is so cool, If I still play sc2 I am in ^^

Match

215 Posts

March 09 2012 21:37 GMT

#84

Is there a way to sign up yet?

VanCaspel

Netherlands250 Posts

March 09 2012 21:57 GMT

#85

Nope, the sign-ups won't open until somewhere in June. Seeing as how the tournament won't start until January (at the earliest) that seems to be fast enough. However, if I get much more of these request I might reconsider

Gluon

Netherlands405 Posts

March 09 2012 22:13 GMT

#86

On March 10 2012 06:00 Pixel. wrote:
This is so cool, If I still play sc2 I am in ^^

Of course you'll still be playing

Elp

Netherlands86 Posts

March 09 2012 22:56 GMT

#87

On March 10 2012 04:55 Deckkie wrote:
Wow, sounds awesome!
Is there a UVA team? or maybe someone who goes to UVA as well?

Yeah, I'm UvA (FEB). But like i said earlier in the thread i won't be a student anymore by 2013, so i dont think i can play in the team league.

Rk0

Netherlands224 Posts

March 09 2012 23:05 GMT

#88

You should talk with the big organisations, maybe they want to help set things up

VanCaspel

Netherlands250 Posts

March 09 2012 23:12 GMT

#89

That's a very good idea. I'll talk to people at WSquared and maybe the HCC (Holland Computer Club) wants to get involved. They might also have some experience with this.

VanCaspel

Netherlands250 Posts

March 10 2012 15:13 GMT

#90

This morning while watching the IEM-finals I realized that the players were sitting on stage, without any 'booths' or obscuring elements between them and the casters / audience. They relied on headphones to make sure that the players weren't listening to the cast. So why shouldn't we do that? That would make it a lot easier - we'd need only one camera to film casters, audience and players, plus: the audience would be able to see the players.

Does anyone know what kind of headphones are used for such purposes? I believe the players have in-ear earplugs for their gamesound, and are the large headphones simply sound-blockers like those used in construction?

Redmori

Netherlands6 Posts

March 10 2012 17:33 GMT

#91

I believe they use proffesional helicopter headsets, which will be pretty hard to get hands on I feel.

VanCaspel

Netherlands250 Posts

March 10 2012 17:56 GMT

#92

How about these? Minus 36dB should get us quite far, especially in combination with the gamesound the players will be hearing.

Gluon

Netherlands405 Posts

March 10 2012 19:28 GMT

#93

No, at pro events they use ordinary (high class of course) headsets. Look at the GSL ones, they are not helicopter headsets, they even have the starcraft emblem :p
But they're used to generate a lot of white noise.
So then you have ear - game sounds - white noise - sound block from the headset - audience
That should be enough for our tourney I believe?

Winsomniac

Netherlands19 Posts

March 10 2012 19:53 GMT

#94

Looks very promising, really looking forward to it.

VanCaspel

Netherlands250 Posts

March 10 2012 19:54 GMT

#95

So we buy decent regular headsets and hook them up to an MP3-player playing white noise? Quite a good idea (thanks GSL

)! But I'm really curious as to whether the players are influenced by loud white noise (as opposed to no / less noise)...

Gluon

Netherlands405 Posts

March 11 2012 12:40 GMT

#96

Yeah we should test that :p
At the real pro events they have another layer, as the players are seated in a soundproof booth as well. So, we should do a test

I have a moderately decent headset, I'll see what happens when I try it at home

Chezus

Netherlands427 Posts

March 11 2012 12:54 GMT

#97

Gonna see if I can get a HvA ICT student team. I'm sure I could convince my classmates to start practicing for this. Good thing this tournament is next year. Haha.

Edit:
I have a question -- Can multiple teams from the same Hogeschool enter? Are there any restrictions? Because I think there's a lot of people who play SC2 at HVA ICT. I don't think I'll be the only one constructing a team if people get wind of this.

VanCaspel

Netherlands250 Posts

March 11 2012 13:28 GMT

#98

@Chezus: good questions! That's exactly what this thread is for. What do you think would be a good way to accommodate teams? Should we restrict it to one team per university / school / company? I don't think that would be wise. Rather, I'd say that anyone can form a team and when multiple teams from the same university enroll we should just call them HVA1 & HVA2, for example. Do you agree? But then:

- How big can a team be? This will depend on the way they will compete in the tournament so:
- How will teams compete? Should all players play each other (cumbersome) or do we take a GSL-like approach?
- Can a player be in multiple teams?

@bblack: If you would test it, that would be great!

Gluon

Netherlands405 Posts

March 11 2012 13:59 GMT

#99

Allright, that was awesome, I felt like a pro :p
Because I couldn't get 3 layers of sound producing equipment with only mini-jack cables I ended up using a far less soundproof headset than are used at real events. Even still, I did get the set-up as it should be: game sounds - white noise - real audio with vocals.
Even with the inferior headset I wasn't able to make out what the guys on the speaker were saying. With a proper headset that should only get better. The only downside is that I could make out the difference between no sound, some sound, and a lot of sound. So if there was a crowd that would go all cheery because (like Idra) my opponent was going hydra nydus all in into my main on Shattered Temple, I (like MC) would certainly suspect something fishy was going on and (like the bosstoss) would scout my main, find the nydus and win the game.

So all in all, I think it should be enough, definitely the pro's outway the con's. But it is not entirely soundproof, although the finalists would never be able to make out what the casters are saying.

VanCaspel

Netherlands250 Posts

March 11 2012 15:07 GMT

#100

Great! I agree that the pro's would outweigh the con's. A roaring crowd could be interpreted to mean a lot of things, and in any case a player would really have to act fast.