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mint_julep
Profile Joined October 2009
United States254 Posts
March 03 2012 21:06 GMT
#5661
On March 04 2012 05:40 Adebisi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 05:21 Azurues wrote:
lol somebody just don't get the situation of carrier there. had genius get the magic number, and had DRG never drop and stay passive, Genius would have just rolled any zerg with the carriers which should be at +2 attack.

And i realise it was also 3 stargates before the corruptor hits the carrier. I actually wonder if Genius did practice those kind of strats before whether with DRG or not cause it seems pretty well executed and the only thing that would spoil his plan is the massive drop play.

This is not the first time Genius has gone carriers, and it never works. Calm before the Storm is a better map for it, and he got the critical mass, and still lost. Can't remember exactly which series it was from, but its not a good strategy unfortunately. Drop play is far from the online thing that will "spoil his plan", he can lose in any number of ways.


I will "never" understand why people make absolute matter of fact statements (like "never"), without doing their homework first.

I don't like making people look ridiculous, but: Irony Moment Here.
I hope Plexa's sig is right.
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
March 03 2012 21:26 GMT
#5662
these finals were really good! great games, wp drg and well deserved! really entertaining!
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
March 03 2012 21:30 GMT
#5663
good finals, thought i wish there would've been some good macro games
Sm1Le
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States179 Posts
March 03 2012 21:38 GMT
#5664
wow front page TL spoiler fail...

-_-
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
March 03 2012 21:47 GMT
#5665
DRG is too beast! Just like I predicted weeks ago (I feel special)
<3 Moonbattles
dragonblade369
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada464 Posts
March 03 2012 21:52 GMT
#5666
On March 04 2012 06:38 Sm1Le wrote:
wow front page TL spoiler fail...

-_-



not keeping up to date with the site fail..
Honestly, tell me a sport whereby a website keeps the result secret. It's always on the front page in big fonts...
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 22:20:46
March 03 2012 22:19 GMT
#5667
on set 5 at about 25 seconds. PLEASE GIF THAT! LOLOL. crazy neck dude
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
March 03 2012 22:42 GMT
#5668
On March 04 2012 06:52 dragonblade369 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 06:38 Sm1Le wrote:
wow front page TL spoiler fail...

-_-



not keeping up to date with the site fail..
Honestly, tell me a sport whereby a website keeps the result secret. It's always on the front page in big fonts...

>implying that e-sports are sports

There's really no good reason for this website to follow any model set by any other website. The front page image could have just as easily said "AND THE WINNER IS..." and I'm sure it would have been appreciated by the people who don't want to be spoiled and completely unnoticed by those who don't care. There's a featured article for results and a thread for results. Seriously, what is the point of bothering the people who come here to use one of the many other features of the site? A boxing site offers nothing but news. This is not a boxing site.
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
March 03 2012 22:43 GMT
#5669
Genius played soo bad in the last game. All he had to do was blink into DRG's main and the game was completely over.
Sm1Le
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States179 Posts
March 03 2012 22:52 GMT
#5670
On March 04 2012 06:52 dragonblade369 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 06:38 Sm1Le wrote:
wow front page TL spoiler fail...

-_-



not keeping up to date with the site fail..
Honestly, tell me a sport whereby a website keeps the result secret. It's always on the front page in big fonts...


?
so if there's a big tournament, and I don't want the results to be spoiled...

I shouldn't come browse the biggest starcraft 2 community? I mean, atleast make a thread about it or make a warning that there are spoilers, don't broadcast on front page...."DRG WON DRG WON" and shove it right up in everyone's face. :/
esaul17
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada547 Posts
March 03 2012 22:54 GMT
#5671
Good finals but Genius' indecisiveness and not stopping the third when he was right beside it meant that DRG definitely deserved the win.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
March 03 2012 22:55 GMT
#5672
On March 04 2012 07:52 Sm1Le wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 06:52 dragonblade369 wrote:
On March 04 2012 06:38 Sm1Le wrote:
wow front page TL spoiler fail...

-_-



not keeping up to date with the site fail..
Honestly, tell me a sport whereby a website keeps the result secret. It's always on the front page in big fonts...


?
so if there's a big tournament, and I don't want the results to be spoiled...

I shouldn't come browse the biggest starcraft 2 community? I mean, atleast make a thread about it or make a warning that there are spoilers, don't broadcast on front page...."DRG WON DRG WON" and shove it right up in everyone's face. :/


No, you just check the hide spoilers box on the homepage...
Sm1Le
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States179 Posts
March 03 2012 22:57 GMT
#5673
On March 04 2012 07:55 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 07:52 Sm1Le wrote:
On March 04 2012 06:52 dragonblade369 wrote:
On March 04 2012 06:38 Sm1Le wrote:
wow front page TL spoiler fail...

-_-



not keeping up to date with the site fail..
Honestly, tell me a sport whereby a website keeps the result secret. It's always on the front page in big fonts...


?
so if there's a big tournament, and I don't want the results to be spoiled...

I shouldn't come browse the biggest starcraft 2 community? I mean, atleast make a thread about it or make a warning that there are spoilers, don't broadcast on front page...."DRG WON DRG WON" and shove it right up in everyone's face. :/


No, you just check the hide spoilers box on the homepage...


oh shizz

didnt see that :b

I wish i noticed it before the finals.

thank homie
Boardin
Profile Joined September 2009
234 Posts
March 03 2012 22:58 GMT
#5674
On March 04 2012 04:18 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 04:14 Boardin wrote:
eagerly awaitng my response from gom about a refund. I had 4 friends over and couldn't connect for 45 miutes, then gave up

LOL

they're not going to refund you because you couldn't watch one game in a best of 7, which was part of hundreds of games in a season.

It's not their fault that you stopped trying to reconnect. Connection problems were fixed after the first game pretty much.

couldnt get on for over 45 minutes. Not sure waht industries you work in? (probably none). But when I pay for something, I expect to receive what I paid for, not aggrevation
Madder
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia427 Posts
March 03 2012 23:00 GMT
#5675
On March 04 2012 07:58 Boardin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 04:18 Corrosive wrote:
On March 04 2012 04:14 Boardin wrote:
eagerly awaitng my response from gom about a refund. I had 4 friends over and couldn't connect for 45 miutes, then gave up

LOL

they're not going to refund you because you couldn't watch one game in a best of 7, which was part of hundreds of games in a season.

It's not their fault that you stopped trying to reconnect. Connection problems were fixed after the first game pretty much.

couldnt get on for over 45 minutes. Not sure waht industries you work in? (probably none). But when I pay for something, I expect to receive what I paid for, not aggrevation

Well, whatever the case, GOM has your money, which in turn goes to future GSLs. Deal with it.
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
March 03 2012 23:07 GMT
#5676
On March 04 2012 07:58 Boardin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 04:18 Corrosive wrote:
On March 04 2012 04:14 Boardin wrote:
eagerly awaitng my response from gom about a refund. I had 4 friends over and couldn't connect for 45 miutes, then gave up

LOL

they're not going to refund you because you couldn't watch one game in a best of 7, which was part of hundreds of games in a season.

It's not their fault that you stopped trying to reconnect. Connection problems were fixed after the first game pretty much.

couldnt get on for over 45 minutes. Not sure waht industries you work in? (probably none). But when I pay for something, I expect to receive what I paid for, not aggrevation

Hey FYI, insulting someone else by saying they don't have a job is literally one of the douchiest things that you can do. It makes you like idiot.

As for GOM refunding you, you have no right to demand one. This isn't the same as demanding a refund from a website that is based out of your local state, and any refund that GOM decides to give will be from the good services of their heart.
PS I have a good job
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-03 23:18:05
March 03 2012 23:16 GMT
#5677
On March 04 2012 05:16 IMSpecies wrote:
Show nested quote +

That's utter bollocks. Artosis completely invented that "fact" to hype the finals more, and make the players seem better. In actual fact, even when it is 8 Carriers vs equivalent cost of Corruptors, Corruptors still win. There is no barrier after which mass Carriers becomes unbeatable. Try it on a unit tester: assume that Genius had +1 attack and so did DRG, as that was the most plausible outcome. Use the Corruption ability, micro back Carriers etc. Once again, Corruptors still win.


You're missing the point. Artosis was assuming DRG wasn't going to be able to scout the carriers and wouldn't have the spire in time. 8 Carriers vs no corrupters = a Genius win.


You don't need to scout carriers to go spire. Drg already scouted 2 stargates. If he didn't prepare for air he would have died to mass void rays too but of course DRG would because again he scouted it and a zerg really shouldn't be going that long without anti air.

Edit: and this is under the assumption that hydras wouldn't be enough to stop carriers (which I'm quite sure they would be)
Scrutinizer
Profile Joined April 2011
170 Posts
March 04 2012 00:19 GMT
#5678
On March 04 2012 04:27 mint_julep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 03:40 Devise wrote:
On March 04 2012 03:26 mint_julep wrote:
On March 04 2012 03:05 MuseMike wrote:
On March 04 2012 02:12 tuho12345 wrote:
Oh Protoss, still can't win another GSL after 1 year I hate it when Genius played so well in a big death ball army but decided to fucked it up with 2 bases all-in.... In the last game why the fuck did you attack into the spine crawlers wall when you had advantage man, just killed the rock and walk in the man or denied as much hatch as possible?

sighhhhhhhh, fuck it.

Crossfire, what do you expect. The next map after that was Bel'Shir. Those are 2 base all-in maps for Protoss.


It's not quite like when Jaedong was handed that win over flash over a DC in (OSL?) finals, but having a deciding match for Protoss on CrossFire is disappointing to say the least.


Jaedong had that in the bag, but I kind of like Crossfire, even though a lot of the PvZs are suckish


True, though the definition of Flash is that he comes back from impossible situations. Even so... JD had it in the bag.

...

Genius made a lot of stupid mistakes that series (bungling micro on his proxy 2port, inability to commit to defend or base-trade in multiple games, etc.) but what killed me was watching how desperately he was moving around in that last game, trying to shut down wherever DRG might expand to keep it 2v2 base, knowing he couldn't hold a third of his own.

So many posts about how Genius failed XF because he couldn't keep his army together when they couldn't see how many awesome flanks he *almost* set up, while simultaneously hunting for expansions - making the best out of a shit situation and almost coming through.

DRG played better last night period and probably would have won regardless, don't get me wrong, but you don't want to see someone go out like that.

CrossFire is fucking handicap map.

Good riddance. -_-;






If you cant understand the position of the game at that "MSL" finals, there is no helping your lack of grasp for the game..
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
March 04 2012 00:27 GMT
#5679
On March 04 2012 08:16 fraktoasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 05:16 IMSpecies wrote:

That's utter bollocks. Artosis completely invented that "fact" to hype the finals more, and make the players seem better. In actual fact, even when it is 8 Carriers vs equivalent cost of Corruptors, Corruptors still win. There is no barrier after which mass Carriers becomes unbeatable. Try it on a unit tester: assume that Genius had +1 attack and so did DRG, as that was the most plausible outcome. Use the Corruption ability, micro back Carriers etc. Once again, Corruptors still win.


You're missing the point. Artosis was assuming DRG wasn't going to be able to scout the carriers and wouldn't have the spire in time. 8 Carriers vs no corrupters = a Genius win.


You don't need to scout carriers to go spire. Drg already scouted 2 stargates. If he didn't prepare for air he would have died to mass void rays too but of course DRG would because again he scouted it and a zerg really shouldn't be going that long without anti air.

Edit: and this is under the assumption that hydras wouldn't be enough to stop carriers (which I'm quite sure they would be)


Hydras are just shit in general, and if you already have a Spire (why wouldn't you in modern ZvP?) then the likelihood of trying to use Hydras to counter Carriers rather than Corruptors is minimal anyway, so it doesn't really matter outside of TheoryCraft Land.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
March 04 2012 00:59 GMT
#5680
On March 04 2012 07:42 lolmlg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 06:52 dragonblade369 wrote:
On March 04 2012 06:38 Sm1Le wrote:
wow front page TL spoiler fail...

-_-



not keeping up to date with the site fail..
Honestly, tell me a sport whereby a website keeps the result secret. It's always on the front page in big fonts...

>implying that e-sports are sports

There's really no good reason for this website to follow any model set by any other website. The front page image could have just as easily said "AND THE WINNER IS..." and I'm sure it would have been appreciated by the people who don't want to be spoiled and completely unnoticed by those who don't care. There's a featured article for results and a thread for results. Seriously, what is the point of bothering the people who come here to use one of the many other features of the site? A boxing site offers nothing but news. This is not a boxing site.

They are a type of sport and this is coming from someone who is big into sports. Sports are a competition, mental and physical, between two or more people. This is a mixture of both. If E-sports is ever going to go anywhere it is going to end up with a model similarish to other major sports in many ways.

Also, if you had been paying attention to this site and cared to read anything you would have noticed that you can click a check mark box that makes it so there wont be spoilers there. People need to chill.
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