• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:55
CEST 01:55
KST 08:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results1Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !11Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results MaNa leaves Team Liquid Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 SC2 INu's Battles#16 <BO.9> Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
Pros React to: TvT Masterclass in FlaSh vs Light ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Flashes ASL S21 Ro8 Review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [ASL21] Semifinals A [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1790 users

[IPL] FC11: HerO vs ThorZaIN - Page 12

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 19 Next All
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
February 19 2012 02:55 GMT
#221
Thorzain just plays so passive when he goes for the macro. I know you can't drop a 2 base toss, but one scan? Also why does he absolutely refuse to get two bunkers instead of just one? That's cost him some mining time every time he pulls scvs...
KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
February 19 2012 02:55 GMT
#222
On February 19 2012 11:52 scarper65 wrote:
I wonder what thorzain could've done better to hold that push.


having more bunkers, and focus target the right units! and perhaps scout a bit better. But that happens ;{
http://www.twitter.com/KicKDoG_LoL baylife plox?
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
February 19 2012 02:56 GMT
#223
On February 19 2012 11:54 Recoil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 11:52 scarper65 wrote:
I wonder what thorzain could've done better to hold that push.


He already had 3 CCs, which is very greedy, so he wouldve needed to scout it coming earlier throw up more bunkers and go vikings before medivacs. Still even with that it would be a difficult hold.

Would throwing done 2 or more barracks instead of a starport have been better? If I remember correctly he only had two medivacs with two vikings on the way when the push hit. Could he have held that if he had a ridiculous amount of marine marauder instead of trying to get a late starport?
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
February 19 2012 02:57 GMT
#224
On February 19 2012 11:52 scarper65 wrote:
I wonder what thorzain could've done better to hold that push.


you can try to build like 4 bunkers, puts marauds in, and repair them until you got enough vikings.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
February 19 2012 02:58 GMT
#225
On February 19 2012 11:56 scarper65 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 11:54 Recoil wrote:
On February 19 2012 11:52 scarper65 wrote:
I wonder what thorzain could've done better to hold that push.


He already had 3 CCs, which is very greedy, so he wouldve needed to scout it coming earlier throw up more bunkers and go vikings before medivacs. Still even with that it would be a difficult hold.

Would throwing done 2 or more barracks instead of a starport have been better? If I remember correctly he only had two medivacs with two vikings on the way when the push hit. Could he have held that if he had a ridiculous amount of marine marauder instead of trying to get a late starport?


Probably, but that is just going to kill you 5 minutes later when Hero pulls back and comes back with 3-6 colossi and you have only a few if any vikings
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
February 19 2012 02:59 GMT
#226
+2 building armor solves all problems
TSM
Recoil
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States276 Posts
February 19 2012 02:59 GMT
#227
On February 19 2012 11:56 scarper65 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 11:54 Recoil wrote:
On February 19 2012 11:52 scarper65 wrote:
I wonder what thorzain could've done better to hold that push.


He already had 3 CCs, which is very greedy, so he wouldve needed to scout it coming earlier throw up more bunkers and go vikings before medivacs. Still even with that it would be a difficult hold.

Would throwing done 2 or more barracks instead of a starport have been better? If I remember correctly he only had two medivacs with two vikings on the way when the push hit. Could he have held that if he had a ridiculous amount of marine marauder instead of trying to get a late starport?


If you delay the starport tech any further you may end up too far behind on tech to catch up even if you hold the first push.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
February 19 2012 02:59 GMT
#228
On February 19 2012 11:40 scarper65 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 11:38 Cyro wrote:
On February 19 2012 11:32 scarper65 wrote:
On February 19 2012 11:29 Cyro wrote:
On February 19 2012 11:29 scarper65 wrote:
2rax against nexus first. Looks like this might be a build order win for thorzain.


Far from it, there is no build order win vs nexus first on bigger maps such as Shakuras. If it is held the game will be even or hero will be ahead most likely

So even though Hero lost a nexus the game is even? Especially when he went nexus first?



Hero does not usually loose nexus vs 2rax when playing nexus first, i said that before any engagement happened

What do you mean by "Hero does not usually loose nexus." He lost it, which put him at an extreme disadvantage, which ended with him losing the game.



Dude, i wrote that like 3 minutes before the nexus fell. I said it was not a build order win and "If it is held the game will be even or hero will be ahead most likely".

Nexus fell, so it was not held.

From hero's previous games, and replays, he holds 2 rax using nexus first all the time
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
February 19 2012 03:00 GMT
#229
Oh no this isn't looking good, no extra Orbital and no Ebays =/.

Dt's looking scary
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 03:02:01
February 19 2012 03:00 GMT
#230
Man Build a RAVEN!


And he did!? OMG ThorZaIN so SMART

Sorry for double post, got excited ^^
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
February 19 2012 03:02 GMT
#231
Where is Drazerk, if he's missing this I'll be a sad panda
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
February 19 2012 03:04 GMT
#232
WHAT how come i cant do that on the ladder
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 03:08:05
February 19 2012 03:07 GMT
#233
Amazed that Hero could hold the 1-1-1 with a raven with a DT Expand so well
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
February 19 2012 03:08 GMT
#234
I feel like ThorZaiN is getting his comeuppance for using this build.
KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
February 19 2012 03:09 GMT
#235
That last game was hmhm. I think thorzain threw a lot of units away in his 2 pushs for hero's expand.

anyway another nerve biting game gj hero taking that one
http://www.twitter.com/KicKDoG_LoL baylife plox?
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 03:10:46
February 19 2012 03:10 GMT
#236
On February 19 2012 12:02 Badfatpanda wrote:
Where is Drazerk, if he's missing this I'll be a sad panda

He just went to sleep after a night of dota 2 and me shouting on every one despite me being the noob xD
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
February 19 2012 03:10 GMT
#237
Did Thorzain not research stim? 111 is pretty weak without stim
xajukx
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada325 Posts
February 19 2012 03:10 GMT
#238
the first 1-1-1 had some marauders mixed in which makes it a lot scarier than the standard variation imo.
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
February 19 2012 03:10 GMT
#239
On February 19 2012 12:07 Zorgaz wrote:
Amazed that Hero could hold the 1-1-1 with a raven with a DT Expand so well


yeah, seriously, no small feat
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
February 19 2012 03:10 GMT
#240
On February 19 2012 12:07 Zorgaz wrote:
Amazed that Hero could hold the 1-1-1 with a raven with a DT Expand so well


Tzain waited WAY too long to press the choke after scouting a DT expo. The raven was up and he let HerO get a robo up and time to chrono an immortal before he actually chose to engage, with only 2 tanks he could have sped things up a bit.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 19 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 143
JuggernautJason112
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 11503
GuemChi 1882
Aegong 93
NaDa 17
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm130
League of Legends
Doublelift11940
summit1g11811
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox439
AZ_Axe71
PPMD42
Other Games
gofns13000
tarik_tv8579
Artosis320
monkeys_forever289
C9.Mang0271
JimRising 237
PiGStarcraft189
Maynarde76
ViBE76
Livibee68
CosmosSc2 35
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV63
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 42
• Adnapsc2 8
• davetesta5
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP3
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 11
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21352
League of Legends
• Scarra586
Other Games
• imaqtpie954
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5m
CranKy Ducklings4
RSL Revival
10h 5m
Classic vs Solar
herO vs SHIN
OSC
13h 5m
Big Brain Bouts
16h 5m
sebesdes vs Iba
Percival vs YoungYakov
Reynor vs GgMaChine
Korean StarCraft League
1d 3h
RSL Revival
1d 10h
Clem vs Rogue
Bunny vs Lambo
IPSL
1d 16h
Dewalt vs nOmaD
Ret vs Cross
BSL
1d 19h
Bonyth vs Doodle
Dewalt vs TerrOr
GSL
2 days
Cure vs herO
SHIN vs Maru
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs Napoleon
G5 vs JDConan
[ Show More ]
BSL
2 days
OyAji vs JDConan
DragOn vs TBD
Replay Cast
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-13
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W7
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.