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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
February 19 2012 02:38 GMT
#201
I feel like ThorZaIN's build is having an identity crisis, nevertheless it's a really cool transition, don't know how cost effective it is if the initial 2 rax push is thwarted though.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20341 Posts
February 19 2012 02:38 GMT
#202
On February 19 2012 11:32 scarper65 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 11:29 Cyro wrote:
On February 19 2012 11:29 scarper65 wrote:
2rax against nexus first. Looks like this might be a build order win for thorzain.


Far from it, there is no build order win vs nexus first on bigger maps such as Shakuras. If it is held the game will be even or hero will be ahead most likely

So even though Hero lost a nexus the game is even? Especially when he went nexus first?



Hero does not usually loose nexus vs 2rax when playing nexus first, i said that before any engagement happened
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
February 19 2012 02:39 GMT
#203
Get forked son.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
February 19 2012 02:40 GMT
#204
Very nice tank usage.
KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
February 19 2012 02:40 GMT
#205
wow these games is just so good gj both players !
http://www.twitter.com/KicKDoG_LoL baylife plox?
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
February 19 2012 02:40 GMT
#206
ThorZaIN played that out really cool
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Soma.bokforlag
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden448 Posts
February 19 2012 02:40 GMT
#207
yes! at last, thorzain didnt let hero max out..
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 19 2012 02:40 GMT
#208
On February 19 2012 11:32 scarper65 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 11:29 Cyro wrote:
On February 19 2012 11:29 scarper65 wrote:
2rax against nexus first. Looks like this might be a build order win for thorzain.


Far from it, there is no build order win vs nexus first on bigger maps such as Shakuras. If it is held the game will be even or hero will be ahead most likely

So even though Hero lost a nexus the game is even? Especially when he went nexus first?


He is saying that if HerO defends the 2 rax the game is even at best for Terran. More likely in favor of HerO and thats perfectly correct. If you can hold a Nexus first against a 2 rax - very late expansion by Terran you will be ahead.

Obviously 'holding' is not equal to Nexus survives, but you lost 25 probes and 10 units...
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scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
February 19 2012 02:40 GMT
#209
On February 19 2012 11:38 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 11:32 scarper65 wrote:
On February 19 2012 11:29 Cyro wrote:
On February 19 2012 11:29 scarper65 wrote:
2rax against nexus first. Looks like this might be a build order win for thorzain.


Far from it, there is no build order win vs nexus first on bigger maps such as Shakuras. If it is held the game will be even or hero will be ahead most likely

So even though Hero lost a nexus the game is even? Especially when he went nexus first?



Hero does not usually loose nexus vs 2rax when playing nexus first, i said that before any engagement happened

What do you mean by "Hero does not usually loose nexus." He lost it, which put him at an extreme disadvantage, which ended with him losing the game.
JagerGard
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden135 Posts
February 19 2012 02:41 GMT
#210
gogo thor
SlayerSThorZaIN F I G H T I N G ! | A BIRD IN THE HAND IS WORTH 2 IN THE BUSH!
Recoil
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States276 Posts
February 19 2012 02:43 GMT
#211
That was an interesting transition from 2rax expand into 2 base marine tank banshee play. Its a good trick to have in your bag when everyone expects pure bio after a 2rax expand.

I do believe T using a couple Tanks in midgame is something to be further explored
SolidZeal
Profile Joined October 2010
United States393 Posts
February 19 2012 02:43 GMT
#212
It's cool how back and forth this match up is. I really like that thorzain can hold his own both in the late game and with these early pushes. Very cool composition to win that game. The transition from 2-rax to tank banshee back to bio was genius, he's such a good player.

That said, go Hero, kick his ass =)!
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
February 19 2012 02:47 GMT
#213
I gotta to bed, gl glglgl Thorzain!
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
February 19 2012 02:48 GMT
#214
This is huge for HerO, with a 2 fe build thorzain has to be rine early to survive, if HerO gets lance and 2-3 colo and just pushes, I feel he can really punish tzain for delaying tech.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
February 19 2012 02:51 GMT
#215
Yeah 2-base collosi are coming back, they are still really strong.
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
February 19 2012 02:52 GMT
#216
Very good protoss strategy with 15 nexus, 3 gate , 1 robo + 3 gate and 2colossus timing attack with warps.. Like that one.
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scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
February 19 2012 02:52 GMT
#217
I wonder what thorzain could've done better to hold that push.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
February 19 2012 02:52 GMT
#218
Need marauder flank vs 2 base colossi. That's how Puma beats it without vikings.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
February 19 2012 02:53 GMT
#219
On February 19 2012 11:51 Zorgaz wrote:
Yeah 2-base collosi are coming back, they are still really strong.

they arent that strong, just when terran plays incredibly greedy they punish it. If thorzain had done a standard fe into 3rax 2 gas fact etc he woulda held really easy, tbh if he had done that hero prob woulda taken a third
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Recoil
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States276 Posts
February 19 2012 02:54 GMT
#220
On February 19 2012 11:52 scarper65 wrote:
I wonder what thorzain could've done better to hold that push.


He already had 3 CCs, which is very greedy, so he wouldve needed to scout it coming earlier throw up more bunkers and go vikings before medivacs. Still even with that it would be a difficult hold.
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