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[IPL] FC11: HerO vs ThorZaIN - Page 10

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Folstag
Profile Joined June 2011
20 Posts
February 19 2012 02:25 GMT
#181
Perfect timing just before 3-3 from thorzain.
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
February 19 2012 02:25 GMT
#182
On February 19 2012 11:23 Folstag wrote:
Thorzain thought his ghosts had cloak i think. Thats why he left them in the open.


His 3-3 upgrades were 20 sec away so ran to try to get them before fight but forgot ghost are slow :p (I think)
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
February 19 2012 02:25 GMT
#183
On February 19 2012 11:24 openbox1 wrote:
Not one single drop or harass... Maxing out to 200... Thozain what are you thinking?

Watch game 1... his maxed out army destroyed hero's... he just lost about 10 ghosts to collosi before that fight which is why is was so one sided
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 19 2012 02:25 GMT
#184
With cloak Thorzain would have won the engagement I think, but yeah, that was a miscontrol by him. HerO caught him offguard so he couldn't really retreat. Shit happens, can happen to Protoss, this time it happened to Terran. On a very big map and that engagement happening at the Protoss half + a planetary at an expansion you might come back, but on Shattered and with losing 15 ghosts... no.

Very good series till now
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 19 2012 02:25 GMT
#185
On February 19 2012 11:24 scarper65 wrote:
3-3 was soo close to finishing as well as cloak. Thorzain had to try and run, which led to him having a terrible engagement and losing the game

you cant run away with ghosts. they just dont wanna stim t-t
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 02:26:19
February 19 2012 02:25 GMT
#186
On February 19 2012 11:22 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 11:22 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Holy shit... did anyone else see all those ghost get wrecked by like 2 collosi volleys?


Yep. Thorzain caught off guard with his ghost positioning.


He wasnt caught off guard with immidiate position, he pulled the ghosts out of his army as the engage started with a seperate hotkey and they all just got focus fired down
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
shishy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States115 Posts
February 19 2012 02:26 GMT
#187
On February 19 2012 11:24 openbox1 wrote:
Not one single drop or harass... Maxing out to 200... Thozain what are you thinking?


Drops won't do much in the late game anyway, which is what his build was structured around, because HerO was constantly playing with a split army and lots of cannons. He even used warp prism to ferry ht/units to give him more mobility which he would have used to deny drops.

I dunno tvp is a weird match up.
FnaticNaama
Profile Joined February 2010
Finland120 Posts
February 19 2012 02:26 GMT
#188
On February 19 2012 11:23 darkcloud8282 wrote:
Thorzain definitely needed more production facilities that game..


They are not going to help if you get steamrolled in the battle like that
Naama - Dreamhack 2010 Champion and a proud creator of naama scv train and naama wall-in
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
February 19 2012 02:26 GMT
#189
On February 19 2012 11:25 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 11:24 scarper65 wrote:
3-3 was soo close to finishing as well as cloak. Thorzain had to try and run, which led to him having a terrible engagement and losing the game

you cant run away with ghosts. they just dont wanna stim t-t

Imagine ghosts with stim. That would be hilarious
Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
February 19 2012 02:26 GMT
#190
On February 19 2012 11:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
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On February 19 2012 11:22 DMXD wrote:
such an unforgiving matchup.....-_-

in any match up if you lose like 10 of your high cost spell casters before the main engagement is going to be unforgiving.....

He didn't lose them before the main engagement, he lost them in the main engagement. He emp'ed everything.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
February 19 2012 02:28 GMT
#191
On February 19 2012 11:26 Theovide wrote:
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On February 19 2012 11:23 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On February 19 2012 11:22 DMXD wrote:
such an unforgiving matchup.....-_-

in any match up if you lose like 10 of your high cost spell casters before the main engagement is going to be unforgiving.....

He didn't lose them before the main engagement, he lost them in the main engagement. He emp'ed everything.

Those EMPS were from the very few ghost who survived.. when I say before the main engagement i mean like 1-2 seconds before it. Collosi melted them then pushed in.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
February 19 2012 02:29 GMT
#192
2rax against nexus first. Looks like this might be a build order win for thorzain.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 02:38:01
February 19 2012 02:29 GMT
#193
Cross positions on shakuras is slightly closer by ground (because of the middle high ground platforms) so you should probably scout there first, i dont think many people know that though
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
SkyTheUnknown
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany2065 Posts
February 19 2012 02:29 GMT
#194
On February 19 2012 11:26 scarper65 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 11:25 teddyoojo wrote:
On February 19 2012 11:24 scarper65 wrote:
3-3 was soo close to finishing as well as cloak. Thorzain had to try and run, which led to him having a terrible engagement and losing the game

you cant run away with ghosts. they just dont wanna stim t-t

Imagine ghosts with stim. That would be hilarious

Gives me nightmares. I'm surprised how entertaining the games are so far. I guess I like TvP Lategame more than most people.
The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown - H.P. Lovecraft
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
February 19 2012 02:29 GMT
#195
On February 19 2012 11:29 scarper65 wrote:
2rax against nexus first. Looks like this might be a build order win for thorzain.


Far from it, there is no build order win vs nexus first on bigger maps such as Shakuras. If it is held the game will be even or hero will be ahead most likely
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 02:32:00
February 19 2012 02:31 GMT
#196
I think Thorzain is ahead now, combat shields first is very tricky, hero probably expected conc shells
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 19 2012 02:32 GMT
#197
On February 19 2012 11:29 Cyro wrote:
Cross positions on metal is slightly closer by ground (because of the middle high ground platforms) so you should probably scout there first, i dont think many people know that though

Is this true?
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
February 19 2012 02:32 GMT
#198
On February 19 2012 11:29 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 11:29 scarper65 wrote:
2rax against nexus first. Looks like this might be a build order win for thorzain.


Far from it, there is no build order win vs nexus first on bigger maps such as Shakuras. If it is held the game will be even or hero will be ahead most likely

So even though Hero lost a nexus the game is even? Especially when he went nexus first?
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
February 19 2012 02:33 GMT
#199
Looks like it's going to be a 2 base push from ThorZaIN
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
February 19 2012 02:38 GMT
#200
On February 19 2012 11:32 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 11:29 Cyro wrote:
Cross positions on metal is slightly closer by ground (because of the middle high ground platforms) so you should probably scout there first, i dont think many people know that though

Is this true?


Oops i meant Shakuras, edited
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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