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Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
March 18 2012 22:45 GMT
#7361
On March 19 2012 07:42 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 07:40 Denzil wrote:
Stephano lost when the Broods were made imo

How so? I'd say that was the reason why he did so well, since Polt was blind hardcountering Stephano's ultra style. It caught him completely offguard and he lost his 4th in the middle due to it


What did those Broods do? He didn't really do anything with them aside from getting them on 150 supply.

He needed to make a move to secure more bases or you'll get starved thats how Antiga is if you don't get off 3 bases you're digging your own grave. The most the broods did was secure a shaky 4th.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Shewklad
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden482 Posts
March 18 2012 22:45 GMT
#7362
"Maybe he has something prepared" You don't say?
Bomber || Thorzain || Startale >< No gods, no masters.
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
March 18 2012 22:45 GMT
#7363
The two best players in the world playing atm.. Oh my oh my.. only missing MC and DRG, but you can't get everything I guess. ^^
Liquid
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
March 18 2012 22:46 GMT
#7364
On March 19 2012 07:43 Zealot Orgy wrote:
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On March 19 2012 07:41 Elroi wrote:
On March 19 2012 07:40 Fionn wrote:
Fantastic game.

Alongside MMA/DRG, Polt/Stephano is the best rivalry in SC2.

Maybe it could be if Stephano takes this series Now it's just a beating, not a rivalry.



Polt beats Stephano, are the game entertaining? YES.


MC beats Idra, are the game entertaining? NO.



One is a rivalry another one is a onesided slaughter.


While the games aren't always onesided, Polt wins against Stephano far more often than Stephano wins against Polt.
Zealot Orgy
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom537 Posts
March 18 2012 22:46 GMT
#7365
On March 19 2012 07:44 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 07:43 Zealot Orgy wrote:
On March 19 2012 07:41 Elroi wrote:
On March 19 2012 07:40 Fionn wrote:
Fantastic game.

Alongside MMA/DRG, Polt/Stephano is the best rivalry in SC2.

Maybe it could be if Stephano takes this series Now it's just a beating, not a rivalry.



Polt beats Stephano, are the game entertaining? YES.


MC beats Idra, are the game entertaining? NO.



One is a rivalry another one is a onesided slaughter.

MC beating Idra is indeed one sided but it is also quite amusing.



Yes but more on the nerves/emotional/raging fanbase point of view rather than mere level of skill of the games.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
March 18 2012 22:46 GMT
#7366
On March 19 2012 07:45 mango_destroyer wrote:

Balance whine? really?


Of course, might as well complete the set, since we've had balancewhine for every race both pro and con today
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
March 18 2012 22:46 GMT
#7367
On March 19 2012 07:45 blae000 wrote:
The two best players in the world playing atm.. Oh my oh my.. only missing MC and DRG, but you can't get everything I guess. ^^

wat?
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 18 2012 22:46 GMT
#7368
On March 19 2012 07:44 Dumboprime wrote:
wow that got me pretty hyped for IPL4


Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. :D
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Killcani
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden448 Posts
March 18 2012 22:46 GMT
#7369
On March 19 2012 07:44 jellyjello wrote:
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On March 19 2012 07:41 forsooth wrote:
Running around with the tanks in the upper left was a great delaying tactic. They weren't useful with the mass brood lords out and gave him time to pump out all the vikings and pull Stephano far enough out of position to snipe the base on the right.


This, and the fact that Stephano got away with a greedy midgame where his timing of teching to BL is a bit earlier than Polt expected. Stephano had a chance but losing infesters to marines was the killing blow.

Greedy midgame? he was low on drones, made lings alot and had slow expansions how is it greedy?
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
March 18 2012 22:46 GMT
#7370
On March 19 2012 07:42 Doodsmack wrote:
That wasn't exactly heroic play by Polt people, it's the imbalance of lategame TvZ on Antiga. Plain and simple, you can't reasonably argue otherwise. The skill required for Zerg to win in that situation is much greater than the skill required for Terran to win.


Only if Terran gets seige tanks and bunkers placed in the middle, otherwise it's 50/50.
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 22:47:08
March 18 2012 22:46 GMT
#7371
On March 19 2012 07:45 blae000 wrote:
The two best players in the world playing atm.. Oh my oh my.. only missing MC and DRG, but you can't get everything I guess. ^^

Where are MC and DRG playing?
midftw
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada170 Posts
March 18 2012 22:46 GMT
#7372
stephano lost because polt caught him off guard with his siege tanks in the fog. he lost 30+ lings there (upgraded 2-2 lings). 30 + lings are capable of changing a game. if he had scouted with 1 or 2 lings game wouldve been different
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 22:47:08
March 18 2012 22:46 GMT
#7373
On March 19 2012 07:44 Mallidon wrote:
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On March 19 2012 07:43 JohnMatrix wrote:
On March 19 2012 07:41 SeaSwift wrote:
On March 19 2012 07:40 teddyoojo wrote:
thats why i dont get this matchup, first polt was far ahead, then stephano had broodlords and it looked almost gg then polt suddenly won.....


Stephano was never ahead.


he was when he killed the x vikings and tanks


Tbh the vikings yeah, but I reckon Polt wasn't bothered about the tanks at all.


He didn't care about the tanks, and the vikings did their job when they completely reset Stephano's air count.

With more bases and a ton of orbitals/production Polt was never properly behind.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 22:47:23
March 18 2012 22:46 GMT
#7374
On March 19 2012 07:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On March 19 2012 07:43 the`postman wrote:
On March 19 2012 07:40 Fionn wrote:
Fantastic game.

Alongside MMA/DRG, Polt/Stephano is the best rivalry in SC2.

It's not a rivalry until Stephano wins one.

Stephano 3-2 Polt in the Eizo Cup #2 finals

So what we are saying is polt has to play on EU server from korea in order to get win!(Stephano even said on his twitter "it was eu server")
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
March 18 2012 22:47 GMT
#7375
On March 19 2012 07:42 MrCash wrote:
The casters complaining about Stephano's opening in my head sounds like: "Why aren't these super high level pros not using the absolute most standard, common builds to deal with their extremely high level opponent? Everyone knows you don't change and adapt to your opponent, just do the same thing over and over until it works."

That's not really true though. I mean, Stephanos build more or less went "Oh, Polt will probably do a hellion marauder build, so I'll blindly counter it. Oh crap, he didn't, I need to take a third. Well, that's bloody typical, NOW he attacks. I'm screwed."

If Polt had gone for hellion marauder, Stephano would have looked like a genius, but the casters could clearly see that he wasn't, so the opening just looked really weird.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
March 18 2012 22:47 GMT
#7376
On March 19 2012 07:45 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 07:44 Olinim wrote:
On March 19 2012 07:43 Zealot Orgy wrote:
On March 19 2012 07:41 Elroi wrote:
On March 19 2012 07:40 Fionn wrote:
Fantastic game.

Alongside MMA/DRG, Polt/Stephano is the best rivalry in SC2.

Maybe it could be if Stephano takes this series Now it's just a beating, not a rivalry.



Polt beats Stephano, are the game entertaining? YES.


MC beats Idra, are the game entertaining? NO.



One is a rivalry another one is a onesided slaughter.

MC beating Idra is indeed one sided but it is also quite amusing.


+ Show Spoiler +
MC beat Idra again btw at Ironsquid
.


You might want to spoiler that. (I spoilered it in the quote).
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
March 18 2012 22:47 GMT
#7377
Polt massively outmicroed/outplaid Stephano.

Game was close because :
1). Polt didn't expect broodlords from stephano.
2). Since the ghost nerf, there's no real counter to infestor/broodlords
other than outmaneuvering your opponent.
Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
March 18 2012 22:47 GMT
#7378
On March 19 2012 07:45 goswser wrote:
Polt vs Stephano isn't a rivalry, Stephano gets crushed horribly by Polt every time. Its more like the relationship between Keen and Nada.

Well Polt didn't really crush Stephano in Assembly, wasn't it 3 really close games? I think that's the tourney where 3-0 did not do the series any justice(tho my memory is failing me).
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1357 Posts
March 18 2012 22:47 GMT
#7379
On March 19 2012 07:45 goswser wrote:
Polt vs Stephano isn't a rivalry, Stephano gets crushed horribly by Polt every time. Its more like the relationship between Keen and Nada.


stop with the hating for god sake -_-

polt vs heavens where he beats him with 4 hellions is what we can call crushed horribly, not there.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 18 2012 22:47 GMT
#7380
On March 19 2012 07:40 teddyoojo wrote:
thats why i dont get this matchup, first polt was far ahead, then stephano had broodlords and it looked almost gg then polt suddenly won.....


New tech level always throws up the advantage, polt stayed on his tech level for a long time to secure an advantage, stephano teched to use the time where no conter to his tech was out, to regain the advantage. Rts games work that way. Though starcraft was always good at hiding the tech advantage.
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