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On February 17 2012 00:22 ragnorr wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 15:06 Bagration wrote:On February 16 2012 14:59 Farone wrote:On February 16 2012 13:28 ravenKRaz wrote:On February 16 2012 13:13 1Eris1 wrote:On February 16 2012 10:47 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
Demuslim vs Kiwi, a lot of Protoss seem to like Shattered, and I think Demuslim's TvP is a little shakey, so I'll give it to Kiwi.
Idra vs Axslav, the instinct is to say Idra, but on a map that Protoss does well on, with Idra's predictability (and determination to just go Roach/Hydra every game), and with Axslav knowing him as well as anyone, I'll give it to Axslav.
JYP vs Artist, both have around the same winrate in the match-up, but I'd consider JYP the more accomplished player and Protoss seems to be doing well on the map, so I'll give it to JYP.
Puma vs Inori, so... a TvP... Puma?
Ace Match: There's a good chance of it being a ZvP or a PvP, with Idra being awful ZvP and Inori being amazing PvP, so Reign wins 3-2.
There, I've called it. You can all stop speculating. Why the hell would EG play IdrA in their ace match? Otherwise I agree. because he's good? EG wins 3-1 imo when is the last time he won any match? Idra has terrible mental strength and is currently slumping, but you cannot deny that his mechanics and gameplay fundamentals are solid. He did not win IEM China or ASUS ROG by luck. Gameplay fundamentals are solid? He does the same thing all the time and gets blind countered for it. He has good mechanics but it only takes you so far these days. Reign 3-1
He has recently upped his arsenal of ownage though, and with his ZvP improving so much, I tihnk he can take it. If he bothers to give a shit about it, that is. Hopefully, he's too proud to throw games against foreigners like Axslav 
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On February 17 2012 01:09 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 00:22 ragnorr wrote:On February 16 2012 15:06 Bagration wrote:On February 16 2012 14:59 Farone wrote:On February 16 2012 13:28 ravenKRaz wrote:On February 16 2012 13:13 1Eris1 wrote:On February 16 2012 10:47 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
Demuslim vs Kiwi, a lot of Protoss seem to like Shattered, and I think Demuslim's TvP is a little shakey, so I'll give it to Kiwi.
Idra vs Axslav, the instinct is to say Idra, but on a map that Protoss does well on, with Idra's predictability (and determination to just go Roach/Hydra every game), and with Axslav knowing him as well as anyone, I'll give it to Axslav.
JYP vs Artist, both have around the same winrate in the match-up, but I'd consider JYP the more accomplished player and Protoss seems to be doing well on the map, so I'll give it to JYP.
Puma vs Inori, so... a TvP... Puma?
Ace Match: There's a good chance of it being a ZvP or a PvP, with Idra being awful ZvP and Inori being amazing PvP, so Reign wins 3-2.
There, I've called it. You can all stop speculating. Why the hell would EG play IdrA in their ace match? Otherwise I agree. because he's good? EG wins 3-1 imo when is the last time he won any match? Idra has terrible mental strength and is currently slumping, but you cannot deny that his mechanics and gameplay fundamentals are solid. He did not win IEM China or ASUS ROG by luck. Gameplay fundamentals are solid? He does the same thing all the time and gets blind countered for it. He has good mechanics but it only takes you so far these days. Reign 3-1 He has recently upped his arsenal of ownage though, and with his ZvP improving so much, I tihnk he can take it. If he bothers to give a shit about it, that is. Hopefully, he's too proud to throw games against foreigners like Axslav
Haha by upped his arsenal you mean he now six pools when he's losing a series right?
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On February 17 2012 01:14 NipponBanzai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 01:09 Aocowns wrote:On February 17 2012 00:22 ragnorr wrote:On February 16 2012 15:06 Bagration wrote:On February 16 2012 14:59 Farone wrote:On February 16 2012 13:28 ravenKRaz wrote:On February 16 2012 13:13 1Eris1 wrote:On February 16 2012 10:47 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
Demuslim vs Kiwi, a lot of Protoss seem to like Shattered, and I think Demuslim's TvP is a little shakey, so I'll give it to Kiwi.
Idra vs Axslav, the instinct is to say Idra, but on a map that Protoss does well on, with Idra's predictability (and determination to just go Roach/Hydra every game), and with Axslav knowing him as well as anyone, I'll give it to Axslav.
JYP vs Artist, both have around the same winrate in the match-up, but I'd consider JYP the more accomplished player and Protoss seems to be doing well on the map, so I'll give it to JYP.
Puma vs Inori, so... a TvP... Puma?
Ace Match: There's a good chance of it being a ZvP or a PvP, with Idra being awful ZvP and Inori being amazing PvP, so Reign wins 3-2.
There, I've called it. You can all stop speculating. Why the hell would EG play IdrA in their ace match? Otherwise I agree. because he's good? EG wins 3-1 imo when is the last time he won any match? Idra has terrible mental strength and is currently slumping, but you cannot deny that his mechanics and gameplay fundamentals are solid. He did not win IEM China or ASUS ROG by luck. Gameplay fundamentals are solid? He does the same thing all the time and gets blind countered for it. He has good mechanics but it only takes you so far these days. Reign 3-1 He has recently upped his arsenal of ownage though, and with his ZvP improving so much, I tihnk he can take it. If he bothers to give a shit about it, that is. Hopefully, he's too proud to throw games against foreigners like Axslav Haha by upped his arsenal you mean he now six pools when he's losing a series right?
Haha, no. But good job beating that dead horse.
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On February 17 2012 01:14 NipponBanzai wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 01:09 Aocowns wrote:On February 17 2012 00:22 ragnorr wrote:On February 16 2012 15:06 Bagration wrote:On February 16 2012 14:59 Farone wrote:On February 16 2012 13:28 ravenKRaz wrote:On February 16 2012 13:13 1Eris1 wrote:On February 16 2012 10:47 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
Demuslim vs Kiwi, a lot of Protoss seem to like Shattered, and I think Demuslim's TvP is a little shakey, so I'll give it to Kiwi.
Idra vs Axslav, the instinct is to say Idra, but on a map that Protoss does well on, with Idra's predictability (and determination to just go Roach/Hydra every game), and with Axslav knowing him as well as anyone, I'll give it to Axslav.
JYP vs Artist, both have around the same winrate in the match-up, but I'd consider JYP the more accomplished player and Protoss seems to be doing well on the map, so I'll give it to JYP.
Puma vs Inori, so... a TvP... Puma?
Ace Match: There's a good chance of it being a ZvP or a PvP, with Idra being awful ZvP and Inori being amazing PvP, so Reign wins 3-2.
There, I've called it. You can all stop speculating. Why the hell would EG play IdrA in their ace match? Otherwise I agree. because he's good? EG wins 3-1 imo when is the last time he won any match? Idra has terrible mental strength and is currently slumping, but you cannot deny that his mechanics and gameplay fundamentals are solid. He did not win IEM China or ASUS ROG by luck. Gameplay fundamentals are solid? He does the same thing all the time and gets blind countered for it. He has good mechanics but it only takes you so far these days. Reign 3-1 He has recently upped his arsenal of ownage though, and with his ZvP improving so much, I tihnk he can take it. If he bothers to give a shit about it, that is. Hopefully, he's too proud to throw games against foreigners like Axslav Haha by upped his arsenal you mean he now six pools when he's losing a series right?
You don't really know the reason behind the 6-pools, and you don't really give a shit about it, do you? I'm guessing you've not seen him streaming lately either
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On February 16 2012 23:14 Aocowns wrote:
I think EG will win... Dunno which one is going to take it between Kiwi and Demu, but if Idra decides to give a shit, he will roll Axslav. I think JYP can take Artist(whom I haven't really followed at all, so I assume he is just another second tier foreigner) even though JYP's vT is shaky, and Inori is a beast at PvP iirc. But this isn't PvP, and he's playing Puma, so I'll give it to Puma
Artist is Korean, former fOu player as well. GM currently on KR server too. Artist has pretty good TvP as well. Should be a close match, only because JYP has likely practiced his vT a lot since its his weakest matchup and he might have gotten better at in in recent weeks.
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On February 17 2012 03:23 masterbreti wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2012 23:14 Aocowns wrote:
I think EG will win... Dunno which one is going to take it between Kiwi and Demu, but if Idra decides to give a shit, he will roll Axslav. I think JYP can take Artist(whom I haven't really followed at all, so I assume he is just another second tier foreigner) even though JYP's vT is shaky, and Inori is a beast at PvP iirc. But this isn't PvP, and he's playing Puma, so I'll give it to Puma Artist is Korean, former fOu player as well. GM currently on KR server too. Artist has pretty good TvP as well. Should be a close match, only because JYP has likely practiced his vT a lot since its his weakest matchup and he might have gotten better at in in recent weeks.
So much for a second tier foreigner then, lol. That sounds like it has potential to be a great match
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On February 17 2012 01:09 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 00:22 ragnorr wrote:On February 16 2012 15:06 Bagration wrote:On February 16 2012 14:59 Farone wrote:On February 16 2012 13:28 ravenKRaz wrote:On February 16 2012 13:13 1Eris1 wrote:On February 16 2012 10:47 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
Demuslim vs Kiwi, a lot of Protoss seem to like Shattered, and I think Demuslim's TvP is a little shakey, so I'll give it to Kiwi.
Idra vs Axslav, the instinct is to say Idra, but on a map that Protoss does well on, with Idra's predictability (and determination to just go Roach/Hydra every game), and with Axslav knowing him as well as anyone, I'll give it to Axslav.
JYP vs Artist, both have around the same winrate in the match-up, but I'd consider JYP the more accomplished player and Protoss seems to be doing well on the map, so I'll give it to JYP.
Puma vs Inori, so... a TvP... Puma?
Ace Match: There's a good chance of it being a ZvP or a PvP, with Idra being awful ZvP and Inori being amazing PvP, so Reign wins 3-2.
There, I've called it. You can all stop speculating. Why the hell would EG play IdrA in their ace match? Otherwise I agree. because he's good? EG wins 3-1 imo when is the last time he won any match? Idra has terrible mental strength and is currently slumping, but you cannot deny that his mechanics and gameplay fundamentals are solid. He did not win IEM China or ASUS ROG by luck. Gameplay fundamentals are solid? He does the same thing all the time and gets blind countered for it. He has good mechanics but it only takes you so far these days. Reign 3-1 He has recently upped his arsenal of ownage though, and with his ZvP improving so much, I tihnk he can take it. If he bothers to give a shit about it, that is. Hopefully, he's too proud to throw games against foreigners like Axslav
What does this mean?
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On February 17 2012 04:07 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 01:09 Aocowns wrote:On February 17 2012 00:22 ragnorr wrote:On February 16 2012 15:06 Bagration wrote:On February 16 2012 14:59 Farone wrote:On February 16 2012 13:28 ravenKRaz wrote:On February 16 2012 13:13 1Eris1 wrote:On February 16 2012 10:47 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
Demuslim vs Kiwi, a lot of Protoss seem to like Shattered, and I think Demuslim's TvP is a little shakey, so I'll give it to Kiwi.
Idra vs Axslav, the instinct is to say Idra, but on a map that Protoss does well on, with Idra's predictability (and determination to just go Roach/Hydra every game), and with Axslav knowing him as well as anyone, I'll give it to Axslav.
JYP vs Artist, both have around the same winrate in the match-up, but I'd consider JYP the more accomplished player and Protoss seems to be doing well on the map, so I'll give it to JYP.
Puma vs Inori, so... a TvP... Puma?
Ace Match: There's a good chance of it being a ZvP or a PvP, with Idra being awful ZvP and Inori being amazing PvP, so Reign wins 3-2.
There, I've called it. You can all stop speculating. Why the hell would EG play IdrA in their ace match? Otherwise I agree. because he's good? EG wins 3-1 imo when is the last time he won any match? Idra has terrible mental strength and is currently slumping, but you cannot deny that his mechanics and gameplay fundamentals are solid. He did not win IEM China or ASUS ROG by luck. Gameplay fundamentals are solid? He does the same thing all the time and gets blind countered for it. He has good mechanics but it only takes you so far these days. Reign 3-1 He has recently upped his arsenal of ownage though, and with his ZvP improving so much, I tihnk he can take it. If he bothers to give a shit about it, that is. Hopefully, he's too proud to throw games against foreigners like Axslav What does this mean?
Probably something about being in Korea and playing a lot, but I don't know.
It really depends on when these games were played, since some leagues are using month old replays from when many of the foreigners in Korea right now weren't fully situated.
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edit: oh crap, posted in the wrong thread, sorry.
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On February 17 2012 04:07 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 01:09 Aocowns wrote:On February 17 2012 00:22 ragnorr wrote:On February 16 2012 15:06 Bagration wrote:On February 16 2012 14:59 Farone wrote:On February 16 2012 13:28 ravenKRaz wrote:On February 16 2012 13:13 1Eris1 wrote:On February 16 2012 10:47 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
Demuslim vs Kiwi, a lot of Protoss seem to like Shattered, and I think Demuslim's TvP is a little shakey, so I'll give it to Kiwi.
Idra vs Axslav, the instinct is to say Idra, but on a map that Protoss does well on, with Idra's predictability (and determination to just go Roach/Hydra every game), and with Axslav knowing him as well as anyone, I'll give it to Axslav.
JYP vs Artist, both have around the same winrate in the match-up, but I'd consider JYP the more accomplished player and Protoss seems to be doing well on the map, so I'll give it to JYP.
Puma vs Inori, so... a TvP... Puma?
Ace Match: There's a good chance of it being a ZvP or a PvP, with Idra being awful ZvP and Inori being amazing PvP, so Reign wins 3-2.
There, I've called it. You can all stop speculating. Why the hell would EG play IdrA in their ace match? Otherwise I agree. because he's good? EG wins 3-1 imo when is the last time he won any match? Idra has terrible mental strength and is currently slumping, but you cannot deny that his mechanics and gameplay fundamentals are solid. He did not win IEM China or ASUS ROG by luck. Gameplay fundamentals are solid? He does the same thing all the time and gets blind countered for it. He has good mechanics but it only takes you so far these days. Reign 3-1 He has recently upped his arsenal of ownage though, and with his ZvP improving so much, I tihnk he can take it. If he bothers to give a shit about it, that is. Hopefully, he's too proud to throw games against foreigners like Axslav What does this mean?
he has been doing a lot better vP on his stream...
yea i haven't seen Axslav beat IdrA yet ever (like WCG qualifer, assorted small brackets like IEM shits) lol so I'm still going to hand that one to IdrA
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So, should EG be awarded a win even if they lose tonight? Or how does this work?
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On February 17 2012 09:15 McFeser wrote:
So, should EG be awarded a win even if they lose tonight? Or how does this work?
What?
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cw played ahead of time guys
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On February 17 2012 09:15 McFeser wrote:
So, should EG be awarded a win even if they lose tonight? Or how does this work?
It says in the disbanding thread that reign will play out the rest of the NASTL unless their players all find new teams.
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Come on Axslav, stomp Idra.
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GL to both teams, looking foward to this stream tonight.
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On February 17 2012 01:09 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 00:22 ragnorr wrote:On February 16 2012 15:06 Bagration wrote:On February 16 2012 14:59 Farone wrote:On February 16 2012 13:28 ravenKRaz wrote:On February 16 2012 13:13 1Eris1 wrote:On February 16 2012 10:47 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
Demuslim vs Kiwi, a lot of Protoss seem to like Shattered, and I think Demuslim's TvP is a little shakey, so I'll give it to Kiwi.
Idra vs Axslav, the instinct is to say Idra, but on a map that Protoss does well on, with Idra's predictability (and determination to just go Roach/Hydra every game), and with Axslav knowing him as well as anyone, I'll give it to Axslav.
JYP vs Artist, both have around the same winrate in the match-up, but I'd consider JYP the more accomplished player and Protoss seems to be doing well on the map, so I'll give it to JYP.
Puma vs Inori, so... a TvP... Puma?
Ace Match: There's a good chance of it being a ZvP or a PvP, with Idra being awful ZvP and Inori being amazing PvP, so Reign wins 3-2.
There, I've called it. You can all stop speculating. Why the hell would EG play IdrA in their ace match? Otherwise I agree. because he's good? EG wins 3-1 imo when is the last time he won any match? Idra has terrible mental strength and is currently slumping, but you cannot deny that his mechanics and gameplay fundamentals are solid. He did not win IEM China or ASUS ROG by luck. Gameplay fundamentals are solid? He does the same thing all the time and gets blind countered for it. He has good mechanics but it only takes you so far these days. Reign 3-1 He has recently upped his arsenal of ownage though, and with his ZvP improving so much, I tihnk he can take it. If he bothers to give a shit about it, that is. Hopefully, he's too proud to throw games against foreigners like Axslav
"like Axslav", even though Axslav isnt one of the best foreigners, he's good enough to completely smack Idra.
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On February 17 2012 10:02 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 01:09 Aocowns wrote:On February 17 2012 00:22 ragnorr wrote:On February 16 2012 15:06 Bagration wrote:On February 16 2012 14:59 Farone wrote:On February 16 2012 13:28 ravenKRaz wrote:On February 16 2012 13:13 1Eris1 wrote:On February 16 2012 10:47 Dzerzhinsky wrote:
Demuslim vs Kiwi, a lot of Protoss seem to like Shattered, and I think Demuslim's TvP is a little shakey, so I'll give it to Kiwi.
Idra vs Axslav, the instinct is to say Idra, but on a map that Protoss does well on, with Idra's predictability (and determination to just go Roach/Hydra every game), and with Axslav knowing him as well as anyone, I'll give it to Axslav.
JYP vs Artist, both have around the same winrate in the match-up, but I'd consider JYP the more accomplished player and Protoss seems to be doing well on the map, so I'll give it to JYP.
Puma vs Inori, so... a TvP... Puma?
Ace Match: There's a good chance of it being a ZvP or a PvP, with Idra being awful ZvP and Inori being amazing PvP, so Reign wins 3-2.
There, I've called it. You can all stop speculating. Why the hell would EG play IdrA in their ace match? Otherwise I agree. because he's good? EG wins 3-1 imo when is the last time he won any match? Idra has terrible mental strength and is currently slumping, but you cannot deny that his mechanics and gameplay fundamentals are solid. He did not win IEM China or ASUS ROG by luck. Gameplay fundamentals are solid? He does the same thing all the time and gets blind countered for it. He has good mechanics but it only takes you so far these days. Reign 3-1 He has recently upped his arsenal of ownage though, and with his ZvP improving so much, I tihnk he can take it. If he bothers to give a shit about it, that is. Hopefully, he's too proud to throw games against foreigners like Axslav "like Axslav", even though Axslav isnt one of the best foreigners, he's good enough to completely smack Idra.
"isn't one of the best foreigners" like idra is.
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Why would they put JYP up against a Terran... EG has this though
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