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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
February 13 2012 16:47 GMT
#481
On February 14 2012 00:48 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 00:35 WigglingSquid wrote:
Nice tournament, overall.
I think the production values should be upped a bit, as others stated, but the invites were solid and most of the games I watched were nice enough. To me, it often feels like the players are not trying too hard, but I am afraid that is unavoidable when the GSL is around. (Or it might just be a mistaken impression on my side.) Are the players told the broadcast date beforehand, at least?

With that said, all the best to FXO with the followup. Buy Wolf a better mic and I'll surely tune-in whenever possible. =P


I'm curious as to how you feel the production value can be upped. Only thing that can really think of to be done is going from 720p to 1080p (which is doable, just has cost), we had high definition overlays, intros and win animations. Wolf has just purchased a new mic today too !

I might have explained myself poorly there. I think that 720p with a decent bitrate is absolutely fine, about the golden standard as far as free streams go.
The overlays and intros/transitions were also very good, with the exception of the in-game FXOpen logo on the right side of the screen: Blizzard's UI is a cacophony of clutter which wastes a lot of screen estate and little can be done about it, which is why I think it would be better to "cram" all the sponsors in some space that would be wasted anyway (the Razer logo covering the bottom right menu if fine, for example). Alas, without tournament support from the devs, it is the organizer who needs to minimize damage.

What I think could be improved upon are audio quality and the pre/post-game stage, so to say.
Both casters should go through very similar mics and processing; well, I suppose that you could achieve the same result without identical equipment, but my point is that when the casters sound very differently, the effect can be quite unpleasant.
On the other subject, it would be nice to have a brief intro/hype to the most important games, and a short analysis after each set. The fact that the commercial break happens almost immediately after the gg and the next game is started with little to no introduction makes the thing feel a bit rushed, at least to me. You might want to check other online events out: I think that IPL and the MLG qualifiers got this part of their broadcasts right.

I hope I was a bit clearer now. And against, best of luck for your future events. ^^
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12908 Posts
February 13 2012 16:51 GMT
#482
On February 14 2012 00:52 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 00:38 Poopi wrote:
That comeback from MKP <3, he still has the best TvP in the world, and his TvT really improved, even though aLive, Polt, Jjakji and Happy are not the best TvTers, he seems unstoppable in every TvT.
DRG is as monstruous as ever but every terran struggles in TvZ right now so... not so unexpected result


MMA and MVP would like to have a word.XD
Terran winrate percentage against Zerg have always been favoring Terran since the beginnings of the GSL.-.-
Terran dun struggle in TvZ especially Korean Terrans.DRG is on beast mode.

Mvp is no longer a top TvZ anymore... He badly lost to Leenock two times, struggled a lot against Lucky and even lost versus NesTea (they are teammates and the games were weird but still...), maybe he will recover his form but it's a bad example.
MMA is almost the only one who consistently does good against zerg in the GSL, but he still struggled in the foreign tournaments (MLG vs Leenock and IPL vs Lucky for example), but when you look at a lot of terrans performance, they don't do that well against zergs
WriterMaru
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
February 13 2012 17:11 GMT
#483
On February 14 2012 00:48 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 00:35 WigglingSquid wrote:
Nice tournament, overall.
I think the production values should be upped a bit, as others stated, but the invites were solid and most of the games I watched were nice enough. To me, it often feels like the players are not trying too hard, but I am afraid that is unavoidable when the GSL is around. (Or it might just be a mistaken impression on my side.) Are the players told the broadcast date beforehand, at least?

With that said, all the best to FXO with the followup. Buy Wolf a better mic and I'll surely tune-in whenever possible. =P


I'm curious as to how you feel the production value can be upped. Only thing that can really think of to be done is going from 720p to 1080p (which is doable, just has cost), we had high definition overlays, intros and win animations. Wolf has just purchased a new mic today too !

The production values is quite good IMO and the only thing holding back this tournament is the advertising, it doesn't seem to be reconigzed by the more casual portion of spectators.
Pesto
Profile Joined February 2011
United States121 Posts
February 13 2012 17:17 GMT
#484
Great series between DRG and puzzle. Watching the rebroadcast. I wonder if the final game was winnable for puzzle beyond a certain point. Perhaps if he had left his void ray to threaten the spawningpool/extractor and gone for the third earlier he could have eliminated? I suppose It would still depend on whether DRG realized it and left his queens there.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
February 13 2012 17:23 GMT
#485
drg so good.
would be really shocked if he doesnt even win at least one gsl this year
hard to take four games off of him in a seven game series (except if you are mma)

byah!
Mario1209
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1077 Posts
February 13 2012 17:58 GMT
#486
MKP with the 2nd place again..... one day, one day
Co-Manager of Soviet Gaming * http://twitter.com/#!/sGMarioo * http://www.facebook.com/SovietGamingfanpage * https://twitter.com/#!/SovietGaming
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
February 13 2012 18:09 GMT
#487
Woah, maringking was right when he said he'd fixed his tvt but got a lot weaker vs Zerg.
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
February 13 2012 18:13 GMT
#488
On February 14 2012 01:47 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 00:48 FXOpen wrote:
On February 14 2012 00:35 WigglingSquid wrote:
Nice tournament, overall.
I think the production values should be upped a bit, as others stated, but the invites were solid and most of the games I watched were nice enough. To me, it often feels like the players are not trying too hard, but I am afraid that is unavoidable when the GSL is around. (Or it might just be a mistaken impression on my side.) Are the players told the broadcast date beforehand, at least?

With that said, all the best to FXO with the followup. Buy Wolf a better mic and I'll surely tune-in whenever possible. =P


I'm curious as to how you feel the production value can be upped. Only thing that can really think of to be done is going from 720p to 1080p (which is doable, just has cost), we had high definition overlays, intros and win animations. Wolf has just purchased a new mic today too !

I might have explained myself poorly there. I think that 720p with a decent bitrate is absolutely fine, about the golden standard as far as free streams go.
The overlays and intros/transitions were also very good, with the exception of the in-game FXOpen logo on the right side of the screen: Blizzard's UI is a cacophony of clutter which wastes a lot of screen estate and little can be done about it, which is why I think it would be better to "cram" all the sponsors in some space that would be wasted anyway (the Razer logo covering the bottom right menu if fine, for example). Alas, without tournament support from the devs, it is the organizer who needs to minimize damage.

What I think could be improved upon are audio quality and the pre/post-game stage, so to say.
Both casters should go through very similar mics and processing; well, I suppose that you could achieve the same result without identical equipment, but my point is that when the casters sound very differently, the effect can be quite unpleasant.
On the other subject, it would be nice to have a brief intro/hype to the most important games, and a short analysis after each set. The fact that the commercial break happens almost immediately after the gg and the next game is started with little to no introduction makes the thing feel a bit rushed, at least to me. You might want to check other online events out: I think that IPL and the MLG qualifiers got this part of their broadcasts right.

I hope I was a bit clearer now. And against, best of luck for your future events. ^^


Your points do make sense and I agree to an extent. The FXOpen logo is something that cant be removed due to the nature of replay casting and every event really just needs to make the best of a bad situation. In regards to everything else, I will say I agree completely however it was simply unavoidable due to the low staffing and budget of the event. FXOBoSs will be doing a complete write up in more detail tomorrow after we get the final statistics from twitch etc.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Sain
Profile Joined November 2010
Lebanon25 Posts
February 13 2012 18:19 GMT
#489
Does FXOpen release replays of the tournament?
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
February 13 2012 18:37 GMT
#490
On February 14 2012 03:19 Sain wrote:
Does FXOpen release replays of the tournament?


We will not be releasing replays of the event, the players requested that we didnt.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
midftw
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 18:47:06
February 13 2012 18:46 GMT
#491
one does not simply beat marinekong before he reaches grandfinal
macncheezeplz
Profile Joined June 2011
United States93 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 19:07:15
February 13 2012 19:05 GMT
#492
I just want to state my opinion that I would have watched, but Wolf casted. I do not believe Wolf to be of any value as a caster and previously decided to refuse to watch something with him casting. It is my opinion, and maybe others, that the game entertainment would go a lot better with a different caster. Please make this change. Thank you.
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
February 13 2012 19:12 GMT
#493
On February 14 2012 01:51 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 00:52 FakeDeath wrote:
On February 14 2012 00:38 Poopi wrote:
That comeback from MKP <3, he still has the best TvP in the world, and his TvT really improved, even though aLive, Polt, Jjakji and Happy are not the best TvTers, he seems unstoppable in every TvT.
DRG is as monstruous as ever but every terran struggles in TvZ right now so... not so unexpected result


MMA and MVP would like to have a word.XD
Terran winrate percentage against Zerg have always been favoring Terran since the beginnings of the GSL.-.-
Terran dun struggle in TvZ especially Korean Terrans.DRG is on beast mode.

Mvp is no longer a top TvZ anymore... He badly lost to Leenock two times, struggled a lot against Lucky and even lost versus NesTea (they are teammates and the games were weird but still...), maybe he will recover his form but it's a bad example.
MMA is almost the only one who consistently does good against zerg in the GSL, but he still struggled in the foreign tournaments (MLG vs Leenock and IPL vs Lucky for example), but when you look at a lot of terrans performance, they don't do that well against zergs


This is silly. MVP not a top tvz player because of his performance agaisnt 3 strong opponents, 1 of which he beat? His losses against leenock were close, at least his gsl semifinals series, and leenock has arguably the best or second best zvt in the world. Against lucky and nestea he looked very strong even if they were hard fought series. And besides, if MMA is the only player who does better in tvz, then its not like 2nd best tvz in the world is "not a top tvz anymore."
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
February 13 2012 20:28 GMT
#494
MKP such a boss beasting through the lower bracket, but DRG is the best player in the world right now, so what can you do. DRG is in form and unbeatable right now. Hope we get a DRG/MC GSL finals with DRG finally winning his first GSL, cause he sure deserves it!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
February 13 2012 20:52 GMT
#495
On February 14 2012 05:28 Canucklehead wrote:
MKP such a boss beasting through the lower bracket, but DRG is the best player in the world right now, so what can you do. DRG is in form and unbeatable right now. Hope we get a DRG/MC GSL finals with DRG finally winning his first GSL, cause he sure deserves it!

I think MMA vs DRG would be more interesting, those guys are probably #1 and #2 in the world right now, and easily the best of their respective match-ups.
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
February 13 2012 20:59 GMT
#496
MKP has really stepped up his vTerran, though it would appear at the expense of his vZerg.

Can't wait to see PartinG vs DRG this week.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
February 14 2012 00:37 GMT
#497
Hey if the whoever won the grand prize cannot use it then feel free to contact me. =D I am a subscriber.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 14 2012 06:49 GMT
#498
DRG's early game is just sooooo solid I'm in shock. His extra early queens in ZvT are just incredibly helpful in holding back pushes and transfusing, then spreading a bunch of creep tumors. I'm definitely gonna have to start adopting his style.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
February 14 2012 06:53 GMT
#499
10.5k peak.

I am wrong. gladly wrong
Thank God and gunrun.
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
February 14 2012 06:56 GMT
#500
10.8k ^^
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
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