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dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
February 13 2012 10:55 GMT
#241
On February 13 2012 19:53 Toppp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 19:50 dragonborn wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:41 R!! wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:39 VoirDire wrote:
If JJ just built his aggressive bunker earlier he would've won. Anyway, we get to see DRG vs puzzle now :D

I am fine with DRG beating these top terrans, he as good as them, what I am not fine with is puzzle/parting beating jjakji/mvp, good thing I don't get to see this baffling scenario.

Are you kidding me?

Puzzle is probably top 3 protoss since 2011.He is always been good and beating top players.


Haha, no. Puzzle is far from top 3 protoss, and didn't show any results in 2011.

won a GSL code A and played round of 8 in last GSL.

This make you top 3 protoss since MC is only protoss/GSL champion...

and yet again he is in round of 8 GSL.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
February 13 2012 10:55 GMT
#242
On February 13 2012 19:50 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 19:41 R!! wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:39 VoirDire wrote:
If JJ just built his aggressive bunker earlier he would've won. Anyway, we get to see DRG vs puzzle now :D

I am fine with DRG beating these top terrans, he as good as them, what I am not fine with is puzzle/parting beating jjakji/mvp, good thing I don't get to see this baffling scenario.

Are you kidding me?

Puzzle is probably top 3 protoss since 2011.He is always been good and beating top players.


Eh Puzzle isn't top 3 Toss but you should just ignore that guy. I have seen his posts before, he is just a troll/balance whiner.
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RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
February 13 2012 10:56 GMT
#243
On February 13 2012 19:53 Toppp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 19:50 dragonborn wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:41 R!! wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:39 VoirDire wrote:
If JJ just built his aggressive bunker earlier he would've won. Anyway, we get to see DRG vs puzzle now :D

I am fine with DRG beating these top terrans, he as good as them, what I am not fine with is puzzle/parting beating jjakji/mvp, good thing I don't get to see this baffling scenario.

Are you kidding me?

Puzzle is probably top 3 protoss since 2011.He is always been good and beating top players.


Haha, no. Puzzle is far from top 3 protoss, and didn't show any results in 2011.

He won Code A in 2011 and got two all-kills in the ZOTAC team invitational.

And Puzzle being far from Top 3? Ridiculous. Top 3, no. Far from it, no. MC, Oz, Genius, PartinG...who else is there?
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 13 2012 10:57 GMT
#244
On February 13 2012 19:55 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 19:53 Toppp wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:50 dragonborn wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:41 R!! wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:39 VoirDire wrote:
If JJ just built his aggressive bunker earlier he would've won. Anyway, we get to see DRG vs puzzle now :D

I am fine with DRG beating these top terrans, he as good as them, what I am not fine with is puzzle/parting beating jjakji/mvp, good thing I don't get to see this baffling scenario.

Are you kidding me?

Puzzle is probably top 3 protoss since 2011.He is always been good and beating top players.


Haha, no. Puzzle is far from top 3 protoss, and didn't show any results in 2011.


Puzzle won Code A and was in the quarterfinals last season.

No Protoss in 2011 even made a GSL final except for MC and Inca. Puzzle is easily a top five Protoss and is right there with MC, Parting, Oz and Genius.


How can you call Genius top 5? Sure when he's hot he's hot, but he slumped for an entire year before returning to form? Far too inconsistent. I'd say HerO would take a "top 5" spot over Genius.
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Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
February 13 2012 10:57 GMT
#245
...who else is there?

Hongun and inca, definitely
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
February 13 2012 10:57 GMT
#246
MC > Parting > Squirtle

Top 3 right there.
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
February 13 2012 10:58 GMT
#247
On February 13 2012 19:55 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 19:53 Toppp wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:50 dragonborn wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:41 R!! wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:39 VoirDire wrote:
If JJ just built his aggressive bunker earlier he would've won. Anyway, we get to see DRG vs puzzle now :D

I am fine with DRG beating these top terrans, he as good as them, what I am not fine with is puzzle/parting beating jjakji/mvp, good thing I don't get to see this baffling scenario.

Are you kidding me?

Puzzle is probably top 3 protoss since 2011.He is always been good and beating top players.


Haha, no. Puzzle is far from top 3 protoss, and didn't show any results in 2011.


Puzzle won Code A and was in the quarterfinals last season.

No Protoss in 2011 even made a GSL final except for MC and Inca. Puzzle is easily a top five Protoss and is right there with MC, Parting, Oz and Genius.


Agreed. People shouldn't delude themselves into implied balance whining by stating the skill level of the Protoss players that beat strong Terrans as being lower than it actually is. Puzzle is a very strong, albeit, inconsistent player. In fact, I'd say that MC, Parting, Oz, Genius, and Puzzle is a perfect list of top 5 Protoss right now. No surprise that they can beat top Terrans since they are also top players.
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
February 13 2012 10:58 GMT
#248
On February 13 2012 19:53 Toppp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 19:50 dragonborn wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:41 R!! wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:39 VoirDire wrote:
If JJ just built his aggressive bunker earlier he would've won. Anyway, we get to see DRG vs puzzle now :D

I am fine with DRG beating these top terrans, he as good as them, what I am not fine with is puzzle/parting beating jjakji/mvp, good thing I don't get to see this baffling scenario.

Are you kidding me?

Puzzle is probably top 3 protoss since 2011.He is always been good and beating top players.


Haha, no. Puzzle is far from top 3 protoss, and didn't show any results in 2011.

To be fair, he won Code A and he's doing really well in code S currently.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
February 13 2012 10:58 GMT
#249
On February 13 2012 19:56 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 19:53 Toppp wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:50 dragonborn wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:41 R!! wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:39 VoirDire wrote:
If JJ just built his aggressive bunker earlier he would've won. Anyway, we get to see DRG vs puzzle now :D

I am fine with DRG beating these top terrans, he as good as them, what I am not fine with is puzzle/parting beating jjakji/mvp, good thing I don't get to see this baffling scenario.

Are you kidding me?

Puzzle is probably top 3 protoss since 2011.He is always been good and beating top players.


Haha, no. Puzzle is far from top 3 protoss, and didn't show any results in 2011.

He won Code A in 2011 and got two all-kills in the ZOTAC team invitational.

And Puzzle being far from Top 3? Ridiculous. Top 3, no. Far from it, no. MC, Oz, Genius, PartinG...who else is there?


I'm not disagreeing but Puzzle doesn't seem to play very well in macro games. He's riding on the protoss metagame and doing constant all ins. I dunno I feel like he's a very weak player and will fall out to Code A next season unless he really changes it up.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
February 13 2012 10:59 GMT
#250
Puzzle is arguably top 3, don't see how he could be rated any worse than the likes of Genius.

dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 11:02:30
February 13 2012 11:00 GMT
#251
On February 13 2012 19:58 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 19:56 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:53 Toppp wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:50 dragonborn wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:41 R!! wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:39 VoirDire wrote:
If JJ just built his aggressive bunker earlier he would've won. Anyway, we get to see DRG vs puzzle now :D

I am fine with DRG beating these top terrans, he as good as them, what I am not fine with is puzzle/parting beating jjakji/mvp, good thing I don't get to see this baffling scenario.

Are you kidding me?

Puzzle is probably top 3 protoss since 2011.He is always been good and beating top players.


Haha, no. Puzzle is far from top 3 protoss, and didn't show any results in 2011.

He won Code A in 2011 and got two all-kills in the ZOTAC team invitational.

And Puzzle being far from Top 3? Ridiculous. Top 3, no. Far from it, no. MC, Oz, Genius, PartinG...who else is there?


I'm not disagreeing but Puzzle doesn't seem to play very well in macro games. He's riding on the protoss metagame and doing constant all ins. I dunno I feel like he's a very weak player and will fall out to Code A next season unless he really changes it up.

did you see Polt vs Puzzle @taldarim altar?

Puzzle have strong macro and game sense.Also SuperNoVa vs Puzzle @DayBreak,one of the best unit control i've ever seen.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
February 13 2012 11:00 GMT
#252
On February 13 2012 19:57 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 19:55 Fionn wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:53 Toppp wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:50 dragonborn wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:41 R!! wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:39 VoirDire wrote:
If JJ just built his aggressive bunker earlier he would've won. Anyway, we get to see DRG vs puzzle now :D

I am fine with DRG beating these top terrans, he as good as them, what I am not fine with is puzzle/parting beating jjakji/mvp, good thing I don't get to see this baffling scenario.

Are you kidding me?

Puzzle is probably top 3 protoss since 2011.He is always been good and beating top players.


Haha, no. Puzzle is far from top 3 protoss, and didn't show any results in 2011.


Puzzle won Code A and was in the quarterfinals last season.

No Protoss in 2011 even made a GSL final except for MC and Inca. Puzzle is easily a top five Protoss and is right there with MC, Parting, Oz and Genius.


How can you call Genius top 5? Sure when he's hot he's hot, but he slumped for an entire year before returning to form? Far too inconsistent. I'd say HerO would take a "top 5" spot over Genius.


Strongly disagree. HerO has yet to even do well in Code A while Genius currently has a hitlist that includes DRG, Nestea, MKP, and sC. That is a damn impressive hitlist. Genius clearly has shown through some amazing decisionmaking and calm play that he has great control of his nerves in the both, something that HerO has clearly lacked. Don't get me wrong - I like HerO and he's an amazing player when his nerves aren't killing him. He's capable of hanging with the best when he's playing his best. But Genius has shown the mental strength to excel in Code S, while HerO flounders in Code A. HerO has a ways to go in terms of mental toughness before he's ready to tackle the GSL.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
February 13 2012 11:03 GMT
#253
puzzle is gonna get 3-0d >.>
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 13 2012 11:03 GMT
#254
On February 13 2012 20:00 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 19:57 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:55 Fionn wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:53 Toppp wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:50 dragonborn wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:41 R!! wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:39 VoirDire wrote:
If JJ just built his aggressive bunker earlier he would've won. Anyway, we get to see DRG vs puzzle now :D

I am fine with DRG beating these top terrans, he as good as them, what I am not fine with is puzzle/parting beating jjakji/mvp, good thing I don't get to see this baffling scenario.

Are you kidding me?

Puzzle is probably top 3 protoss since 2011.He is always been good and beating top players.


Haha, no. Puzzle is far from top 3 protoss, and didn't show any results in 2011.


Puzzle won Code A and was in the quarterfinals last season.

No Protoss in 2011 even made a GSL final except for MC and Inca. Puzzle is easily a top five Protoss and is right there with MC, Parting, Oz and Genius.


How can you call Genius top 5? Sure when he's hot he's hot, but he slumped for an entire year before returning to form? Far too inconsistent. I'd say HerO would take a "top 5" spot over Genius.


Strongly disagree. HerO has yet to even do well in Code A while Genius currently has a hitlist that includes DRG, Nestea, MKP, and sC. That is a damn impressive hitlist. Genius clearly has shown through some amazing decisionmaking and calm play that he has great control of his nerves in the both, something that HerO has clearly lacked. Don't get me wrong - I like HerO and he's an amazing player when his nerves aren't killing him. He's capable of hanging with the best when he's playing his best. But Genius has shown the mental strength to excel in Code S, while HerO flounders in Code A. HerO has a ways to go in terms of mental toughness before he's ready to tackle the GSL.


Alright then I counter your Genius argument with Naniwa. Yet another struggling code A, but has beat all those you mentioned before (not sure about sC) AND has beaten MVP. Or even Huk. I'm not calling Genius bad, but I reallllly don't think he's deserving of top 5 unless you only highlight his play in 1 month out of like 15.
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 11:04:14
February 13 2012 11:03 GMT
#255
On February 13 2012 19:59 AxionSteel wrote:
Puzzle is arguably top 3, don't see how he could be rated any worse than the likes of Genius.



Puzzle is a top 3 toss right now for sure. Back to back r8's in the GSL, top 3 (min) of this etc

He's still getting rolled by DRG though xD
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
February 13 2012 11:03 GMT
#256
On February 13 2012 19:58 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 19:56 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:53 Toppp wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:50 dragonborn wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:41 R!! wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:39 VoirDire wrote:
If JJ just built his aggressive bunker earlier he would've won. Anyway, we get to see DRG vs puzzle now :D

I am fine with DRG beating these top terrans, he as good as them, what I am not fine with is puzzle/parting beating jjakji/mvp, good thing I don't get to see this baffling scenario.

Are you kidding me?

Puzzle is probably top 3 protoss since 2011.He is always been good and beating top players.


Haha, no. Puzzle is far from top 3 protoss, and didn't show any results in 2011.

He won Code A in 2011 and got two all-kills in the ZOTAC team invitational.

And Puzzle being far from Top 3? Ridiculous. Top 3, no. Far from it, no. MC, Oz, Genius, PartinG...who else is there?


I'm not disagreeing but Puzzle doesn't seem to play very well in macro games. He's riding on the protoss metagame and doing constant all ins. I dunno I feel like he's a very weak player and will fall out to Code A next season unless he really changes it up.


I do think that Puzzle can be rather cheesy and really enjoys his all-ins. But he's won a Code A and has gotten deep in the GSL in the past, while he's currently in the Ro8 fresh off of 2-0ing his Ro16 group, so while you may not like his style of play, there's no denying that it's effective. His epic 5th game against Polt also showed that he's perfectly capable of strong macro games. He's getting stomped by DRG right now, but hey, DRG is the best Zerg in the world at the moment, no shame in losing to such a great player
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
February 13 2012 11:04 GMT
#257
On February 13 2012 20:03 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 19:59 AxionSteel wrote:
Puzzle is arguably top 3, don't see how he could be rated any worse than the likes of Genius.



Puzzle is a top 3 toss right now for sure. Back to back r8's in the GSL, top 3 (min) of this etc

He's still getting rolled by DRG though xD

shit with the way DRG has been playing I'm not too surprised, even if this was 3 weeks - 1 month ago. This guy is on fucking fire lately
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Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
February 13 2012 11:04 GMT
#258
Did puzzle send out a probe to look for a 3rd base from DRG?
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 11:06:12
February 13 2012 11:05 GMT
#259
On February 13 2012 20:03 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 20:00 HolyArrow wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:57 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:55 Fionn wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:53 Toppp wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:50 dragonborn wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:41 R!! wrote:
On February 13 2012 19:39 VoirDire wrote:
If JJ just built his aggressive bunker earlier he would've won. Anyway, we get to see DRG vs puzzle now :D

I am fine with DRG beating these top terrans, he as good as them, what I am not fine with is puzzle/parting beating jjakji/mvp, good thing I don't get to see this baffling scenario.

Are you kidding me?

Puzzle is probably top 3 protoss since 2011.He is always been good and beating top players.


Haha, no. Puzzle is far from top 3 protoss, and didn't show any results in 2011.


Puzzle won Code A and was in the quarterfinals last season.

No Protoss in 2011 even made a GSL final except for MC and Inca. Puzzle is easily a top five Protoss and is right there with MC, Parting, Oz and Genius.


How can you call Genius top 5? Sure when he's hot he's hot, but he slumped for an entire year before returning to form? Far too inconsistent. I'd say HerO would take a "top 5" spot over Genius.




Alright then I counter your Genius argument with Naniwa. Yet another struggling code A, but has beat all those you mentioned before (not sure about sC) AND has beaten MVP. Or even Huk. I'm not calling Genius bad, but I reallllly don't think he's deserving of top 5 unless you only highlight his play in 1 month out of like 15.



Currently based on recent performance,Genius would definitely take the top 5.Hero is barely Code A and he did not even qualify out of his group at IEM Kiev.His performance recently is not being good whereas Genius is performing well in the GSL Code S.
Strongly disagree. HerO has yet to even do well in Code A while Genius currently has a hitlist that includes DRG, Nestea, MKP, and sC. That is a damn impressive hitlist. Genius clearly has shown through some amazing decisionmaking and calm play that he has great control of his nerves in the both, something that HerO has clearly lacked. Don't get me wrong - I like HerO and he's an amazing player when his nerves aren't killing him. He's capable of hanging with the best when he's playing his best. But Genius has shown the mental strength to excel in Code S, while HerO flounders in Code A. HerO has a ways to go in terms of mental toughness before he's ready to tackle the GSL.
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jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
February 13 2012 11:05 GMT
#260
FXO why? Why??
are you guys so epic to bring us this awesome event!
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Hoping for DRG vs MKP final!!
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