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desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
February 12 2012 12:12 GMT
#61
It will be an awesome showmatch, gl to both ^_ ^
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SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2216 Posts
February 12 2012 12:13 GMT
#62
Destiny will destroy Incontrol. I'd say 4-1
Cogito, ergo Toss
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
February 12 2012 12:13 GMT
#63
On February 12 2012 21:09 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 21:04 Trowa127 wrote:
300 games is a lot of games for a pro rts player to be 1000 ELO. Just sayin. But as I said he'll take this his ZvP style is extremely abusive.

Well it's a knowledge-based game and tech skill doesn't translate over nearly at all. I've watched like every time he's played LoL and at the start he wasn't even lasthitting properly, however as he's playing with his higher skilled friends he seems to always ask questions and want to learn. He seems to curse / flame his team an awful lot if he's not taking the game seriously so I dunno. I'd say recently his tech skill has become better but again he doesn't seem to have a whole lot of game sense in LoL and also his teamfighting seems really lackluster

Not like that has anything to do with anything >_> But I'm not buying that he's just trolling etc. as it really looks to me like he's trying to win each game. However he probably isn't heavily investing in it as he hasn't asked for coaching or read many guides etc. so I'm not sure..


What I meant is that mechanical skill and decision making alone with a decent team comp would get him pretty far once he knows the basic. I don't know, I've got about 500 games played and I'm sitting at 1500, and my knowledge of the game is poor and I'm only diamond on sc2. I see what you mean though.

It just annoys me a tad that people think he could just switch and be competetive at LoL straight away. Kinda says something about the misconceptions regarding LoL's difficulty in the sc2 community >_>
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ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
February 12 2012 12:36 GMT
#64
On February 12 2012 21:13 Trowa127 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 21:09 Shikyo wrote:
On February 12 2012 21:04 Trowa127 wrote:
300 games is a lot of games for a pro rts player to be 1000 ELO. Just sayin. But as I said he'll take this his ZvP style is extremely abusive.

Well it's a knowledge-based game and tech skill doesn't translate over nearly at all. I've watched like every time he's played LoL and at the start he wasn't even lasthitting properly, however as he's playing with his higher skilled friends he seems to always ask questions and want to learn. He seems to curse / flame his team an awful lot if he's not taking the game seriously so I dunno. I'd say recently his tech skill has become better but again he doesn't seem to have a whole lot of game sense in LoL and also his teamfighting seems really lackluster

Not like that has anything to do with anything >_> But I'm not buying that he's just trolling etc. as it really looks to me like he's trying to win each game. However he probably isn't heavily investing in it as he hasn't asked for coaching or read many guides etc. so I'm not sure..


What I meant is that mechanical skill and decision making alone with a decent team comp would get him pretty far once he knows the basic. I don't know, I've got about 500 games played and I'm sitting at 1500, and my knowledge of the game is poor and I'm only diamond on sc2. I see what you mean though.

It just annoys me a tad that people think he could just switch and be competetive at LoL straight away. Kinda says something about the misconceptions regarding LoL's difficulty in the sc2 community >_>

to be honest, if you are smart and understand the concept of the range of any champs abilities (which are mostly the same) I think it would take you about 200 games to get 1.8k elo where people are still piss poor bad (my elo)
bisu
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 12 2012 12:41 GMT
#65
On February 12 2012 21:36 ramon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 21:13 Trowa127 wrote:
On February 12 2012 21:09 Shikyo wrote:
On February 12 2012 21:04 Trowa127 wrote:
300 games is a lot of games for a pro rts player to be 1000 ELO. Just sayin. But as I said he'll take this his ZvP style is extremely abusive.

Well it's a knowledge-based game and tech skill doesn't translate over nearly at all. I've watched like every time he's played LoL and at the start he wasn't even lasthitting properly, however as he's playing with his higher skilled friends he seems to always ask questions and want to learn. He seems to curse / flame his team an awful lot if he's not taking the game seriously so I dunno. I'd say recently his tech skill has become better but again he doesn't seem to have a whole lot of game sense in LoL and also his teamfighting seems really lackluster

Not like that has anything to do with anything >_> But I'm not buying that he's just trolling etc. as it really looks to me like he's trying to win each game. However he probably isn't heavily investing in it as he hasn't asked for coaching or read many guides etc. so I'm not sure..


What I meant is that mechanical skill and decision making alone with a decent team comp would get him pretty far once he knows the basic. I don't know, I've got about 500 games played and I'm sitting at 1500, and my knowledge of the game is poor and I'm only diamond on sc2. I see what you mean though.

It just annoys me a tad that people think he could just switch and be competetive at LoL straight away. Kinda says something about the misconceptions regarding LoL's difficulty in the sc2 community >_>

to be honest, if you are smart and understand the concept of the range of any champs abilities (which are mostly the same) I think it would take you about 200 games to get 1.8k elo where people are still piss poor bad (my elo)

200 games from a scratch, really? I mean it took even Chu who was an amazing HoN player, from the same genre, over 500 games to reach those elos, and if we're talking from a scratch... no

But yeah it's kind of annoying people think that the game's a joke and a SC2 pro could just switch over and dominate, yupyup. But by the way as I said destiny's been improving a ton recently and I think with a bit more he should actually start climbing the ladder pretty heavily, he still is pretty bad with lasthitting and teamfighting but he has a pretty good idea of the general map objectives and concepts and that's the most important thing.

I really would like it though if Destiny sleeped, I mean he said he'd quit after the next game like an hour ago and if he just doesn't sleep he's going to play horribly in this showmatch and that would really suck
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Matkap
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain627 Posts
February 12 2012 12:50 GMT
#66
are you sure the showmatch is live and it hasnt been played already?
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ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
February 12 2012 13:02 GMT
#67
On February 12 2012 21:41 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 21:36 ramon wrote:
On February 12 2012 21:13 Trowa127 wrote:
On February 12 2012 21:09 Shikyo wrote:
On February 12 2012 21:04 Trowa127 wrote:
300 games is a lot of games for a pro rts player to be 1000 ELO. Just sayin. But as I said he'll take this his ZvP style is extremely abusive.

Well it's a knowledge-based game and tech skill doesn't translate over nearly at all. I've watched like every time he's played LoL and at the start he wasn't even lasthitting properly, however as he's playing with his higher skilled friends he seems to always ask questions and want to learn. He seems to curse / flame his team an awful lot if he's not taking the game seriously so I dunno. I'd say recently his tech skill has become better but again he doesn't seem to have a whole lot of game sense in LoL and also his teamfighting seems really lackluster

Not like that has anything to do with anything >_> But I'm not buying that he's just trolling etc. as it really looks to me like he's trying to win each game. However he probably isn't heavily investing in it as he hasn't asked for coaching or read many guides etc. so I'm not sure..


What I meant is that mechanical skill and decision making alone with a decent team comp would get him pretty far once he knows the basic. I don't know, I've got about 500 games played and I'm sitting at 1500, and my knowledge of the game is poor and I'm only diamond on sc2. I see what you mean though.

It just annoys me a tad that people think he could just switch and be competetive at LoL straight away. Kinda says something about the misconceptions regarding LoL's difficulty in the sc2 community >_>

to be honest, if you are smart and understand the concept of the range of any champs abilities (which are mostly the same) I think it would take you about 200 games to get 1.8k elo where people are still piss poor bad (my elo)

200 games from a scratch, really? I mean it took even Chu who was an amazing HoN player, from the same genre, over 500 games to reach those elos, and if we're talking from a scratch... no

But yeah it's kind of annoying people think that the game's a joke and a SC2 pro could just switch over and dominate, yupyup. But by the way as I said destiny's been improving a ton recently and I think with a bit more he should actually start climbing the ladder pretty heavily, he still is pretty bad with lasthitting and teamfighting but he has a pretty good idea of the general map objectives and concepts and that's the most important thing.

I really would like it though if Destiny sleeped, I mean he said he'd quit after the next game like an hour ago and if he just doesn't sleep he's going to play horribly in this showmatch and that would really suck


yeah, there are more examples of people switching taking more than that

i guess what i meant was "play at that level" instead of "reach that level" if you understand what i mean

and i also didn't mean to bash any moba, i have played 2k+ lol games 500 hon and over 100 dota 2 now, so if anything i would be bashing myself haha
bisu
Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States972 Posts
February 12 2012 13:06 GMT
#68
AFAIK, destiny practices on the KR server whereas incontrol plays on NA. Also destiny has a winning record against incontrol. So I think destiny should win, even if he spends an inordinate amount of time playing LoL.
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
February 12 2012 13:07 GMT
#69
oh how there will be mutas
Mario1209
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1077 Posts
February 12 2012 13:32 GMT
#70
this'll be great. i never manage to take the time to tune into these, but I'm gonna try for this one!
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ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
February 12 2012 13:35 GMT
#71
they are both playing well. keep it up!
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xXxSepirothxXx
Profile Joined November 2011
68 Posts
February 12 2012 14:25 GMT
#72
this will be SO high level (tasteless)
pHelix Equilibria
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1134 Posts
February 12 2012 14:38 GMT
#73
Please Destiny, please win. I don't even follow the SC scene much but something like this would make me come back.
Dox
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1199 Posts
February 12 2012 14:39 GMT
#74
Go iNcontroL! SEA is cheering for you Geoff! <3
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Ashes
Profile Joined January 2011
United States362 Posts
February 12 2012 14:54 GMT
#75
ohh yeah, this should be good.. it will boil down to who makes less mistakes...I feel both have equal chance, it is soo tough to call
AidoS
Profile Joined November 2011
71 Posts
February 12 2012 15:07 GMT
#76
On February 12 2012 21:50 Matkap wrote:
are you sure the showmatch is live and it hasnt been played already?



yap live and in colour =)
kingtut
Profile Joined June 2011
United States359 Posts
February 12 2012 15:17 GMT
#77
lets see how the EG training has worked for him.
Ps2 Xtreme
Profile Joined September 2011
United States12 Posts
February 12 2012 15:25 GMT
#78
This is going to be nuts. Thank you Playhem, and I'm glad to see Frobin casting it.
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Drizzt3
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States189 Posts
February 12 2012 15:51 GMT
#79
On February 12 2012 17:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 17:18 Empirimancer wrote:
InControl's got this, Destiny doesn't even play SC2 these days.



Destiny has recently beaten Choya and Hasuobs, both better protoss than Incontrol. He definitely has a shot. It should be a close and fun showmatch


Choya dt rushes every game, he's not that good. Incontrol has been practicing alot and getting better, so he's probably at least as good as Hasuobs, who is a good protoss.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 12 2012 15:59 GMT
#80
On February 13 2012 00:51 Drizzt3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 17:37 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On February 12 2012 17:18 Empirimancer wrote:
InControl's got this, Destiny doesn't even play SC2 these days.



Destiny has recently beaten Choya and Hasuobs, both better protoss than Incontrol. He definitely has a shot. It should be a close and fun showmatch


Choya dt rushes every game, he's not that good. Incontrol has been practicing alot and getting better, so he's probably at least as good as Hasuobs, who is a good protoss.


I would not say Incontrol is as good as Hasuobs yet, because Hasuobs appears to be slumping at the moment (poor showings at HSC and Kiev). Still, Incontrol seems to be getting better. I guess a lot of people underrate him because most of what we saw of Incontrol's play last year was at MLGs, where the pool seeding put him against players that were just levels above him, and not surprisingly he performed horribly. He is not a top foreigner by any means, but he is still a pro level player.

It should be close though.
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