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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
February 13 2012 07:21 GMT
#481
Damn, somehow Destiny just seems to have Incontrol's number. :-/
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
February 13 2012 11:16 GMT
#482
Is Destiny even practicing sc2 anymore?
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 11:54:27
February 13 2012 11:53 GMT
#483
Lol, well that was a funny series. Very low/mid-masterish gameplay by both parties. One could question whether they take this whole progaming stuff seriously or not. :p

I want Playhem to organize some proper showmatches between good top-notch players, as they clearly have the money to do so.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
PaRaBoWL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States74 Posts
February 13 2012 11:57 GMT
#484
On February 13 2012 20:53 namste wrote:
Lol, well that was a funny series. Very low/mid-masterish gameplay by both parties. One could question whether they take this whole progaming stuff seriously or not. :p

I want Playhem to organize some proper showmatches between good top-notch players, as they clearly have the money to do so.


Im sure you got it all figured out on whos low or mid masters and whos a top notch player.
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
February 13 2012 12:19 GMT
#485
Congratulation QxGDestiny!

EGiNcontroL, your time will come!
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
February 13 2012 13:10 GMT
#486
I think it would have been better to be one sided, to see who improved more. This way I dont know how good they are atm....
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
February 13 2012 13:17 GMT
#487
On February 13 2012 20:57 PaRaBoWL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 20:53 namste wrote:
Lol, well that was a funny series. Very low/mid-masterish gameplay by both parties. One could question whether they take this whole progaming stuff seriously or not. :p

I want Playhem to organize some proper showmatches between good top-notch players, as they clearly have the money to do so.


Im sure you got it all figured out on whos low or mid masters and whos a top notch player.


Yep I do, I'm available for consult in case Playhem needs some assistance in picking these showmatches.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
February 13 2012 13:22 GMT
#488
On February 13 2012 20:16 Odal wrote:
Is Destiny even practicing sc2 anymore?


Of course he is. Why shouldn't he? He said plain and simple on the stream that he got bored of sc2 a while and started playing something else just to clear his mind from sc2. But hes playing it again so...
http://www.twitter.com/KicKDoG_LoL baylife plox?
ki11z0ne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States427 Posts
February 13 2012 13:22 GMT
#489
very good series loved incontrols play style i have seen him do that pylon cannon expo thing befor it looks very good, did not get ti see the last game tho =(
SC > halo
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 13 2012 13:31 GMT
#490
On February 13 2012 12:32 ImHuko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 12:18 QxGRockEr wrote:
Big upset. Geoff is way better then destiny. Saddening to see this. And dual sight for a game 7 ? Nice... lets let the most important match be on the most zerg favored map.

Shakura's is favored map for Protoss. More of those maps favor Protoss than Zerg, no reason to whine about maps. Yes though, the order of maps was kinda shitty, but Shakura's was second to last, which favors Protoss easily


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/maps/447_Shakuras_Plateau_2.0
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/maps/445_Dual_Sight

If by 'favoured for Protoss' you mean scoring 47.7% instead of 42.7%, sure. Not sure how 47.7% makes Shakuras a Protoss map though, hmm?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Lavit2099
Profile Joined November 2011
United States390 Posts
February 13 2012 13:59 GMT
#491
iNcontroL beat himself in that set. He's not a strong gateway timing player but he tried them anyway. Was a good watch, though.

And namste, so you know: Destiny is GM and iNcontroL is top of his masters. Neither are "low-mid masters" players and both are top notch recognizable NA players. If you want Huk or Idra to play these, well, Idra charges $300 an hour to coach. A $100 showmatch where he has to wake up at around 4am to play, I doubt he'll be all that interested in.

Destiny does practice SC2. He doesn't stream it as much (think too many stream snipers and cheaters for him to enjoy it). I think he does LoL as a hobby in that, he puts in his 8-10 hours of work then unwinds with LoL. Or takes the occasional day off of SC2 and spends that time playing LoL.

I really hate people that bash players like this. It makes no sense. No one is putting a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to watch players they obviously don't like. Don't like, don't watch, QQ less.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
February 13 2012 14:00 GMT
#492
On February 13 2012 22:22 ki11z0ne wrote:
very good series loved incontrols play style i have seen him do that pylon cannon expo thing befor it looks very good, did not get ti see the last game tho =(


I think that only works if the zerg doesn't pay any attention at all. It's pretty ridiculous that Destiny was able to win game (1 or 2...I forget after having cannons behind his natural expo.
lyrlian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands257 Posts
February 13 2012 15:56 GMT
#493
On February 13 2012 11:43 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Casters are making me want to cave my head in. They miss half the important action and talk as though 4 gate stargate +1 push is something new and amazing...

4 gate Stargate NEVER has a warp prism or +2 weapons with it. They call robo tech while watching a second cybernetics come up. They call a 6:10 third "very fast" when it's a Zerg playing against a forge expo. They nitpick on void ray micro and ignore the map vision and spreads.

I feel like a whiner. I love listening to Husky and Catspajamas... but this is just too much.

>.<

Usually I would pipe in and say that they've got great enthusiasm in trying to hype up games that are already over... but I can't really bring myself to believe they can even tell sometimes.

God... I'm such a whiner tonight...

EDIT: On a different note, I feel like Destiny's only really "won" the baneling bust game so far. All of the other games have either been iNcontroL losing after getting a lead via dumb decision making or simply outplaying Destiny completely.


Some of your critique is noted and makes sense. But we said multiple times that 4 gate stargate +1 push was becoming a very standard thing for protoss to do in the current meta game where zerg takes an early third. Not everyone is on top of SC2 constantly and to you and me it might seem as if this build has been around forever, but to others that might be different.

About the warp prism play you're quite right, you (practically) never see a 4gate stargate with a warp prism. I confused and mixed up words/builds there for a minute. I was going to get at warp prism pressure ive seen Liquid'Hero utilize and after that wanted to get back to 4 gate stargate which (depending on scouting) can be followed up by a Robo into colossi (JYP does this alot) Sometimes I want to share so many stories about things I have seen done, the stories get mixed up in eachother a little :D

Thanks for your feedback though, nice to hear some constructive negative feedback (:
@lyrlian on twitter! Caster for ESET, WCS and various other events.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
February 13 2012 16:13 GMT
#494
Ggs, close series and fun games : )
Dodge arrows
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
February 13 2012 16:17 GMT
#495
On February 13 2012 22:31 marvellosity wrote:

If by 'favoured for Protoss' you mean scoring 47.7% instead of 42.7%, sure. Not sure how 47.7% makes Shakuras a Protoss map though, hmm?


tournament win rates != ladder win rates, thanks for playing
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
February 13 2012 16:27 GMT
#496
On February 13 2012 22:59 lavit2099 wrote:
iNcontroL beat himself in that set. He's not a strong gateway timing player but he tried them anyway. Was a good watch, though.

And namste, so you know: Destiny is GM and iNcontroL is top of his masters. Neither are "low-mid masters" players and both are top notch recognizable NA players. If you want Huk or Idra to play these, well, Idra charges $300 an hour to coach. A $100 showmatch where he has to wake up at around 4am to play, I doubt he'll be all that interested in.

Destiny does practice SC2. He doesn't stream it as much (think too many stream snipers and cheaters for him to enjoy it). I think he does LoL as a hobby in that, he puts in his 8-10 hours of work then unwinds with LoL. Or takes the occasional day off of SC2 and spends that time playing LoL.

I really hate people that bash players like this. It makes no sense. No one is putting a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to watch players they obviously don't like. Don't like, don't watch, QQ less.


Both Destiny and iNcontroL have GM accounts, this including seasons 3 and 4 seeing as season 5 is just a cluster of nothing am, and multiple Master's accounts with GM mmr.
A time to live.
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
February 13 2012 16:30 GMT
#497
On February 14 2012 00:56 lyrlian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 11:43 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Casters are making me want to cave my head in. They miss half the important action and talk as though 4 gate stargate +1 push is something new and amazing...

4 gate Stargate NEVER has a warp prism or +2 weapons with it. They call robo tech while watching a second cybernetics come up. They call a 6:10 third "very fast" when it's a Zerg playing against a forge expo. They nitpick on void ray micro and ignore the map vision and spreads.

I feel like a whiner. I love listening to Husky and Catspajamas... but this is just too much.

>.<

Usually I would pipe in and say that they've got great enthusiasm in trying to hype up games that are already over... but I can't really bring myself to believe they can even tell sometimes.

God... I'm such a whiner tonight...

EDIT: On a different note, I feel like Destiny's only really "won" the baneling bust game so far. All of the other games have either been iNcontroL losing after getting a lead via dumb decision making or simply outplaying Destiny completely.


Some of your critique is noted and makes sense. But we said multiple times that 4 gate stargate +1 push was becoming a very standard thing for protoss to do in the current meta game where zerg takes an early third. Not everyone is on top of SC2 constantly and to you and me it might seem as if this build has been around forever, but to others that might be different.

About the warp prism play you're quite right, you (practically) never see a 4gate stargate with a warp prism. I confused and mixed up words/builds there for a minute. I was going to get at warp prism pressure ive seen Liquid'Hero utilize and after that wanted to get back to 4 gate stargate which (depending on scouting) can be followed up by a Robo into colossi (JYP does this alot) Sometimes I want to share so many stories about things I have seen done, the stories get mixed up in eachother a little :D

Thanks for your feedback though, nice to hear some constructive negative feedback (:


Thanks for the almost weirdly polite response! I wrote this halfway through the fourth game in a drunken frenzy so don't take too much away from it

Casting is a confusing job, shuffling between background info, anecdotes, analysis, and play by play... So... keep on getting more awesome!

Keep on casting <3
A time to live.
KinQuh
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland810 Posts
February 13 2012 16:53 GMT
#498
On February 14 2012 01:27 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 22:59 lavit2099 wrote:
iNcontroL beat himself in that set. He's not a strong gateway timing player but he tried them anyway. Was a good watch, though.

And namste, so you know: Destiny is GM and iNcontroL is top of his masters. Neither are "low-mid masters" players and both are top notch recognizable NA players. If you want Huk or Idra to play these, well, Idra charges $300 an hour to coach. A $100 showmatch where he has to wake up at around 4am to play, I doubt he'll be all that interested in.

Destiny does practice SC2. He doesn't stream it as much (think too many stream snipers and cheaters for him to enjoy it). I think he does LoL as a hobby in that, he puts in his 8-10 hours of work then unwinds with LoL. Or takes the occasional day off of SC2 and spends that time playing LoL.

I really hate people that bash players like this. It makes no sense. No one is putting a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to watch players they obviously don't like. Don't like, don't watch, QQ less.


Both Destiny and iNcontroL have GM accounts, this including seasons 3 and 4 seeing as season 5 is just a cluster of nothing am, and multiple Master's accounts with GM mmr.

If you are GM on NA it means nothing.
Holy check.
Lavit2099
Profile Joined November 2011
United States390 Posts
February 13 2012 16:54 GMT
#499
On February 14 2012 01:27 ShatterZer0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 22:59 lavit2099 wrote:
iNcontroL beat himself in that set. He's not a strong gateway timing player but he tried them anyway. Was a good watch, though.

And namste, so you know: Destiny is GM and iNcontroL is top of his masters. Neither are "low-mid masters" players and both are top notch recognizable NA players. If you want Huk or Idra to play these, well, Idra charges $300 an hour to coach. A $100 showmatch where he has to wake up at around 4am to play, I doubt he'll be all that interested in.

Destiny does practice SC2. He doesn't stream it as much (think too many stream snipers and cheaters for him to enjoy it). I think he does LoL as a hobby in that, he puts in his 8-10 hours of work then unwinds with LoL. Or takes the occasional day off of SC2 and spends that time playing LoL.

I really hate people that bash players like this. It makes no sense. No one is putting a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to watch players they obviously don't like. Don't like, don't watch, QQ less.


Both Destiny and iNcontroL have GM accounts, this including seasons 3 and 4 seeing as season 5 is just a cluster of nothing am, and multiple Master's accounts with GM mmr.


I'm not surprised. I was just going by what I see from their streams on the accounts they use there.

In other news, getting hit in Bronze by one of Destiny's accounts (one of the ROOTDestiny ones) is rather disheartening. I don't need pro smurfs (who, btw, 10 pooled and ling/bane all-in'd me) when I'm still trying to learn this darned game!
Lavit2099
Profile Joined November 2011
United States390 Posts
February 13 2012 16:57 GMT
#500
On February 14 2012 01:53 KinQuh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 01:27 ShatterZer0 wrote:
On February 13 2012 22:59 lavit2099 wrote:
iNcontroL beat himself in that set. He's not a strong gateway timing player but he tried them anyway. Was a good watch, though.

And namste, so you know: Destiny is GM and iNcontroL is top of his masters. Neither are "low-mid masters" players and both are top notch recognizable NA players. If you want Huk or Idra to play these, well, Idra charges $300 an hour to coach. A $100 showmatch where he has to wake up at around 4am to play, I doubt he'll be all that interested in.

Destiny does practice SC2. He doesn't stream it as much (think too many stream snipers and cheaters for him to enjoy it). I think he does LoL as a hobby in that, he puts in his 8-10 hours of work then unwinds with LoL. Or takes the occasional day off of SC2 and spends that time playing LoL.

I really hate people that bash players like this. It makes no sense. No one is putting a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to watch players they obviously don't like. Don't like, don't watch, QQ less.


Both Destiny and iNcontroL have GM accounts, this including seasons 3 and 4 seeing as season 5 is just a cluster of nothing am, and multiple Master's accounts with GM mmr.

If you are GM on NA it means nothing.


I hate people with this attitude. It's that type of comment that doesn't add anything to the discussion and is, quite frankly, insulting to NA players for no good reason.
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