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xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
February 09 2012 10:46 GMT
#1801
On February 09 2012 19:43 Severian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:42 teddyoojo wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:40 Fragile51 wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:39 Logros wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:38 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:37 McBengt wrote:
Now please, don't go off on how mech is good vs toss. MKP could have won woth SCVs with the amount of probes he killed.


And how did he kill those probes? WITH MECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah it's funny that people say Mech is bad! He just killed a ton of probes with hellions! Well herp derp, you're not gonna have any blue flame hellions going bio.


It's almost like terrans are so convinced that MMM is the only way to play TvP that they basically debunk any other strat that seems even slightly plausible. I'd love to see that kind of play more in TvP, MMM is getting boring.

of course terrans are convinced mmm is the only way to play tvp. because it is. every pro says so.

Yeah, MKP just did it to prove that it's not viable! But failed!

he win thanks to hellions run-by (toss knows to deal with bio drop but no with hellions run-by :p), but his superior value army get smashed repeatedly...
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44317 Posts
February 09 2012 10:46 GMT
#1802
Fast ghosts. This is probably going to hurt x.x
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
February 09 2012 10:46 GMT
#1803
On February 09 2012 19:45 UeberFuerst wrote:
Mech isn't played that often, so MKP had the Momentum of surprise and Genius preprepared strategy was kinda useless?


Pretty sure that's what happened. I remember Marineking going for 3 facts in TvP against MC at Homestory, but those games were kind of joke games...never thought he would actually do it in a real game :p
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
February 09 2012 10:46 GMT
#1804
On February 09 2012 19:45 ramon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:45 Fionn wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:44 pdd wrote:
Wait how come MKP went to 4 finals? vs Mvp twice and vs Nestea once. Isn't that 3?


MKP vs. Ganzi in the Code A final.

wasn't he in Arena of Legends final too? maybe thats what they count


AoL didn't have a Ro16.
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Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
February 09 2012 10:46 GMT
#1805
On February 09 2012 19:42 -y0shi- wrote:
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On February 09 2012 19:39 gruff wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:38 -y0shi- wrote:
This is so stupid :/ MKP looses the battle soo badly but because he gets 3 hellions in he wins because toss has nothing that kills hellions before they kill your entire workerline >_<

They didn't kill his whole worker line and genius could have taken better precausions against this when he saw all the hellions, not to mention he still made a fight out of it.


25 Workers or something? And how exactly do you take precaution against this :/ And he made a fight out of it beccause mech truly is awful against toss xD


Did you watch the game? After the first run-by he had a cannon in each mineral line. In comes hellion drops and 4 hellions did kill 7 probes. That's 1/3 or the first attack with 1/3 more hellions. A simple cannon - or a stalker if needed - is enough to drastically cut down on the losses because it gets auto priority from the hellions.

Or you could.. you know.. sim city your base to prevent run-bys and spot for drops.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
February 09 2012 10:46 GMT
#1806
this is opposite of jjakji vs parting yesterday lol.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
February 09 2012 10:46 GMT
#1807
On February 09 2012 19:44 pdd wrote:
Wait how come MKP went to 4 finals? vs Mvp twice and vs Nestea once. Isn't that 3?

Code A finals vs. GanZi
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ScareCrow`
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada88 Posts
February 09 2012 10:46 GMT
#1808
Here comes the terran version of 3 nexus 8 gate
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
February 09 2012 10:47 GMT
#1809
On February 09 2012 19:43 Seeker wrote:
MKP
vs
Genius

on Daybreak

MKP at bottom left

Genius at top right

First 5 minutes

Genius opens up standrad

MKP opens up 1 rax no gas
MKP scouts Genius
MKP gets up 2 CCs at once

Genius goes for 1 gate FE


5 - 10 minutes

Genius gets up to 3 gates

MKP gets up to 3 rax

Genius grabbing a robo

MKP grabbing both gas
MKP bunkers up his natural
MKP grabbing 3 orbitals
MKP grabbing stim

Genius getting an observer

MKP going up to 5 raxes
MKP grabbing +1

Genius grabbing forge + twilight council
Genius scouts the base of MKP with his observer
Genius grabbing dual forge

MKP getting ghost academy
MKP lifts off his 3rd and flies it over to the expansion

Genius going to 6 gates

MKP with no factory
MKP moves out with a nice army
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Lord_J
Profile Joined April 2011
Kenya1085 Posts
February 09 2012 10:47 GMT
#1810
On February 09 2012 19:45 ramon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:45 Fionn wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:44 pdd wrote:
Wait how come MKP went to 4 finals? vs Mvp twice and vs Nestea once. Isn't that 3?


MKP vs. Ganzi in the Code A final.

wasn't he in Arena of Legends final too? maybe thats what they count


He was in the first AoL final, but there wasn't a Ro16 in that AoL (there was only 12 players), so they couldn't be counting that.
No relation to Monsieur J.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 10:48:09
February 09 2012 10:47 GMT
#1811
This is the terran version of parting's build.

Double expand into pressure.

*edit - stream was behind
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
February 09 2012 10:47 GMT
#1812
mass Hae-Byun inc
gideel
Profile Joined January 2011
1503 Posts
February 09 2012 10:47 GMT
#1813
MKP needs to hit.....robo bay is coming out ....
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
February 09 2012 10:47 GMT
#1814
Wow this reminds me of Partings 3 base 8 gate :D Terran style.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
February 09 2012 10:47 GMT
#1815
MKP going for the no medivacs strat?
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 10:48:15
February 09 2012 10:47 GMT
#1816
On February 09 2012 19:46 ScareCrow` wrote:
Here comes the terran version of 3 nexus 8 gate

My thoughts exactly. And he can potentially kill here. Let's see if the Terrans who screamed murder yesterday admit they can do the same thing ^_^

~ though MKP should have attacked quicker, it was just pressure it seems.
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
February 09 2012 10:47 GMT
#1817
Can anyone explain me how this would work vs collossus builds?
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 09 2012 10:47 GMT
#1818
On February 09 2012 19:45 mvtaylor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:38 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:37 McBengt wrote:
Now please, don't go off on how mech is good vs toss. MKP could have won woth SCVs with the amount of probes he killed.


And how did he kill those probes? WITH MECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is nothing about a 15 minute blue flame hellion drop to kill workers that can't be done with more utility by 8 marines.

Against marines you pull your workers and lose some, if you pull against hellions you lose all. So you have to keep them mining and dying until you can deal with the hellions, like Genius did.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
February 09 2012 10:47 GMT
#1819
On February 09 2012 19:45 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:42 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:41 Logros wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:40 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:39 Logros wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:38 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:37 McBengt wrote:
Now please, don't go off on how mech is good vs toss. MKP could have won woth SCVs with the amount of probes he killed.


And how did he kill those probes? WITH MECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah it's funny that people say Mech is bad! He just killed a ton of probes with hellions! Well herp derp, you're not gonna have any blue flame hellions going bio.


Well herp derp you can kill just as many with normal hellions because blue flame doesn't kill probes any quicker nowadays.

You don't really get it right? Noone is getting normal hellions either when going bio.


They have the option to. just because people don't doesn't mean they can't. That's such a retarded argument when people are justifying mech in TvP because of the hellions. MECH didn't win the game: hellions did.

They don't because then you would need to upgrade both bio and mech and would need reactored factory in addition to reactored and tech lab barracks. That just isn't gonna work if you want any sizeable MMM army.


Incredibly enough, you can build hellions from a factory without a reactor.
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KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
February 09 2012 10:47 GMT
#1820
On February 09 2012 19:45 ramon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:45 Fionn wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:44 pdd wrote:
Wait how come MKP went to 4 finals? vs Mvp twice and vs Nestea once. Isn't that 3?


MKP vs. Ganzi in the Code A final.

wasn't he in Arena of Legends final too? maybe thats what they count

But he was in two AoL finals, so you wouldn't come to 4 finals if those were counted
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