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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45006 Posts
February 09 2012 10:43 GMT
#1781
On February 09 2012 19:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:39 mvtaylor wrote:
Without the probe kills throughout the game MKP would have lost

Also.... having loads of Templar, but no storm
Researching Colossus range, but no Colossus...


Saw that too. Genius was clearly testing MKP by not scouting and not making the right units and upgrades.

Now it's time to show his true power.

+ Show Spoiler +
MWAHAHAHAHA.

or maybe Genius's super saiyan is fading and he's turning back into the normal Genius, gatekeeper of code s?


Maybe As a Protoss, I'd like to see him move up a little more.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
February 09 2012 10:43 GMT
#1782
On February 09 2012 19:42 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:38 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:37 McBengt wrote:
Now please, don't go off on how mech is good vs toss. MKP could have won woth SCVs with the amount of probes he killed.


And how did he kill those probes? WITH MECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This build won't last very long because it relies on Protoss not dealing well to the hellions. Once Protoss learn, they'll be able to counter it and mech without killing those probes is kinda bad. Game shouldn't have been that close with the amount of probes killed.

Either way it's a good build to vary it up a bit, but interesting to see if it'll last.

Its hard to say its standard like deep 6 in BW, you cant say marines are completely unviable in bw tvp because they are... in certain circumstances.... but its far from calling it standard! or the way to go! Artosis style.
Stork[gm]
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 09 2012 10:43 GMT
#1783
On February 09 2012 19:43 mordk wrote:
LOL MKP 90% win rate after winning first set

Nice data by GOM

I wonder how bad it is after losing first set. He can really tilt pretty hard
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Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 10:44:25
February 09 2012 10:43 GMT
#1784
On February 09 2012 19:42 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:40 Fragile51 wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:39 Logros wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:38 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:37 McBengt wrote:
Now please, don't go off on how mech is good vs toss. MKP could have won woth SCVs with the amount of probes he killed.


And how did he kill those probes? WITH MECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah it's funny that people say Mech is bad! He just killed a ton of probes with hellions! Well herp derp, you're not gonna have any blue flame hellions going bio.


It's almost like terrans are so convinced that MMM is the only way to play TvP that they basically debunk any other strat that seems even slightly plausible. I'd love to see that kind of play more in TvP, MMM is getting boring.

of course terrans are convinced mmm is the only way to play tvp. because it is. every pro says so.

Yeah, MKP just did it to prove that it's not viable! But failed!
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
February 09 2012 10:43 GMT
#1785
Well the theory of mech is that you are supposed to get your death ball that cannot be beaten so those engagement might not be revealing.
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
February 09 2012 10:44 GMT
#1786
hm, i hope we don't get to see crossfire after this map
bisu
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
February 09 2012 10:44 GMT
#1787
I'm guessing they're counting Code A's final in that stat.
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gideel
Profile Joined January 2011
1503 Posts
February 09 2012 10:44 GMT
#1788
yea......tastetosis finally realise how godly MKP is?
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
February 09 2012 10:44 GMT
#1789
no spider mines hurts mech really badly, tbh. doesn't give tanks the protection they need, terran doesn't get map control/
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
February 09 2012 10:44 GMT
#1790
Wait how come MKP went to 4 finals? vs Mvp twice and vs Nestea once. Isn't that 3?
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SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
February 09 2012 10:45 GMT
#1791
On February 09 2012 19:42 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:40 Fragile51 wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:39 Logros wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:38 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:37 McBengt wrote:
Now please, don't go off on how mech is good vs toss. MKP could have won woth SCVs with the amount of probes he killed.


And how did he kill those probes? WITH MECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah it's funny that people say Mech is bad! He just killed a ton of probes with hellions! Well herp derp, you're not gonna have any blue flame hellions going bio.


It's almost like terrans are so convinced that MMM is the only way to play TvP that they basically debunk any other strat that seems even slightly plausible. I'd love to see that kind of play more in TvP, MMM is getting boring.

of course terrans are convinced mmm is the only way to play tvp. because it is. every pro says so.


And MarineKing is... an amateur?
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
February 09 2012 10:45 GMT
#1792
Thanks for the nice Lr seeker.
This is our town, scrub
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 09 2012 10:45 GMT
#1793
On February 09 2012 19:44 Fionn wrote:
I'm guessing they're counting Code A's final in that stat.

I'm trying to figure that out too. I guess it wouldnt count AOL right? so the code A finals make sense for #4 and it was a GSL Season
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
February 09 2012 10:45 GMT
#1794
On February 09 2012 19:44 pdd wrote:
Wait how come MKP went to 4 finals? vs Mvp twice and vs Nestea once. Isn't that 3?


MKP vs. Ganzi in the Code A final.
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
February 09 2012 10:45 GMT
#1795
On February 09 2012 19:44 pdd wrote:
Wait how come MKP went to 4 finals? vs Mvp twice and vs Nestea once. Isn't that 3?

Code A
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
UeberFuerst
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany17 Posts
February 09 2012 10:45 GMT
#1796
Mech isn't played that often, so MKP had the Momentum of surprise and Genius preprepared strategy was kinda useless?
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 10:46:14
February 09 2012 10:45 GMT
#1797
On February 09 2012 19:38 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:37 McBengt wrote:
Now please, don't go off on how mech is good vs toss. MKP could have won woth SCVs with the amount of probes he killed.


And how did he kill those probes? WITH MECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There is nothing about a 15 minute blue flame hellion drop to kill workers that can't be done with more utility by 8 marines.

On February 09 2012 19:45 UeberFuerst wrote:
Mech isn't played that often, so MKP had the Momentum of surprise and Genius preprepared strategy was kinda useless?


Pretty much this.

No sim city at all, colossus range but not making colossi, having enough high templar to feedback 12 Thors when MKP hasn't even built one...
@followMVT
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16096 Posts
February 09 2012 10:45 GMT
#1798
On February 09 2012 19:43 Severian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:42 teddyoojo wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:40 Fragile51 wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:39 Logros wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:38 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:37 McBengt wrote:
Now please, don't go off on how mech is good vs toss. MKP could have won woth SCVs with the amount of probes he killed.


And how did he kill those probes? WITH MECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah it's funny that people say Mech is bad! He just killed a ton of probes with hellions! Well herp derp, you're not gonna have any blue flame hellions going bio.


It's almost like terrans are so convinced that MMM is the only way to play TvP that they basically debunk any other strat that seems even slightly plausible. I'd love to see that kind of play more in TvP, MMM is getting boring.

of course terrans are convinced mmm is the only way to play tvp. because it is. every pro says so.

Yeah, MKP just did it to prove that it's not viable!


He proved that if your opponent is bad at dealing with hellion runbys and allows over 40 probe kills within 3 runbys that your unit composition doesn't matter.

That's all he proved. As far as resources lost in every trade Genius won every engagement by a large margin. MKP won with superior macro and harassment.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
February 09 2012 10:45 GMT
#1799
On February 09 2012 19:42 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:41 Logros wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:40 Hassybaby wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:39 Logros wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:38 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:37 McBengt wrote:
Now please, don't go off on how mech is good vs toss. MKP could have won woth SCVs with the amount of probes he killed.


And how did he kill those probes? WITH MECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah it's funny that people say Mech is bad! He just killed a ton of probes with hellions! Well herp derp, you're not gonna have any blue flame hellions going bio.


Well herp derp you can kill just as many with normal hellions because blue flame doesn't kill probes any quicker nowadays.

You don't really get it right? Noone is getting normal hellions either when going bio.


They have the option to. just because people don't doesn't mean they can't. That's such a retarded argument when people are justifying mech in TvP because of the hellions. MECH didn't win the game: hellions did.

They don't because then you would need to upgrade both bio and mech and would need reactored factory in addition to reactored and tech lab barracks. That just isn't gonna work if you want any sizeable MMM army.
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 10:46:10
February 09 2012 10:45 GMT
#1800
On February 09 2012 19:45 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:44 pdd wrote:
Wait how come MKP went to 4 finals? vs Mvp twice and vs Nestea once. Isn't that 3?


MKP vs. Ganzi in the Code A final.

wasn't he in Arena of Legends final too? maybe thats what they count
bisu
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