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bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
February 09 2012 10:40 GMT
#1741
Genius is really bad in that game tbh,
im a toss player and i cheer for him, but that? doesnt seem to be Ro8 to me. maybe not even Code S.
Show me some skills please genius.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
February 09 2012 10:41 GMT
#1742
im absolutely loving gsl today.
that timing attack from terran is something that must be talked about, that should actually have rolled over protoss if he microed better. and this is how many tosses play nowadays :o
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
February 09 2012 10:41 GMT
#1743
The other big factor in that game was the layout of the map.

Dual Sight is so incredibly friendly to hellion runbys it's actually stupid. If MKP tries that same build here he'll get absolutely crushed.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
February 09 2012 10:41 GMT
#1744
MarineKing I LOVE YOU


On February 09 2012 19:38 -y0shi- wrote:
This is so stupid :/ MKP looses the battle soo badly but because he gets 3 hellions in he wins because toss has nothing that kills hellions before they kill your entire workerline >_<

But it's balanced by how stupidly tanks perform against Protoss. A Code S player should be able to react before 3 Hellions kill everything. And you could say the same about an 8 marine drop, so is that imba too? Stop whining, MKP outplayed him.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 09 2012 10:41 GMT
#1745
Fuck my internet went out right after Marineking killed Genius's 3rd. T_T
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45006 Posts
February 09 2012 10:41 GMT
#1746
On February 09 2012 19:39 mvtaylor wrote:
Without the probe kills throughout the game MKP would have lost

Also.... having loads of Templar, but no storm
Researching Colossus range, but no Colossus...


Saw that too. Genius was clearly testing MKP by not scouting and not making the right units and upgrades.

Now it's time to show his true power.

+ Show Spoiler +
MWAHAHAHAHA.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
February 09 2012 10:41 GMT
#1747
On February 09 2012 19:38 Witten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:37 KiNGxXx wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:35 Logros wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:35 IgnE wrote:
That's why mech doesn't work in tvp. MKP throwing away a huge economic lead by building the wrong units.

MKP got ahead 40 supply after that battle and is now up 60 supply, seems to be working pretty well. Just losing 1 battle doesn't mean you're behind or that you've lost the game.

He was ahead because of the timing attack. Not because of going mech.


The... timing attack with mech units...

Umm... what exactly are you trying to argue?

You saw he lost the fight. His tanks got crushed. Genius let hellions into his main and this is why MKP was ahead. He could do this with marines and hellions, too. Had nothing to do with mech.
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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
February 09 2012 10:41 GMT
#1748
On February 09 2012 19:40 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:39 Logros wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:38 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:37 McBengt wrote:
Now please, don't go off on how mech is good vs toss. MKP could have won woth SCVs with the amount of probes he killed.


And how did he kill those probes? WITH MECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah it's funny that people say Mech is bad! He just killed a ton of probes with hellions! Well herp derp, you're not gonna have any blue flame hellions going bio.


Well herp derp you can kill just as many with normal hellions because blue flame doesn't kill probes any quicker nowadays.

You don't really get it right? Noone is getting normal hellions either when going bio.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
February 09 2012 10:41 GMT
#1749
I just yawned
Horseballs
Profile Joined July 2011
United States721 Posts
February 09 2012 10:41 GMT
#1750
Nobody ever denied you could win with mech if you did game-ending economic damage early on, but mech is absolute trash in a game where protoss doesn't lose 20 probes early.
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
February 09 2012 10:41 GMT
#1751
On February 09 2012 19:38 frucisky wrote:
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On February 09 2012 19:29 Horseballs wrote:
yep, hellions terrible against chargelots. Same as always.

I hopey you've eaten your words about hellions in TvP.

The game actually proved him right. A mainly chargelot army beat blueflame hellions with siegetanks.

Hopefully everyone realizes, that mech was getting owned. The probe massacres were keeping MKP in the game. Mech just wasn't losing hard enough to compensate for ~40 probe kills.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
February 09 2012 10:41 GMT
#1752
On February 09 2012 19:40 Fearest wrote:
with good forcefield.. no helions will ever enter a base with a ramp


Medivacs still exist
Revolutionist fan
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45006 Posts
February 09 2012 10:41 GMT
#1753
On February 09 2012 19:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Fuck my internet went out right after Marineking killed Genius's 3rd. T_T


You didn't miss much. Standard engagement that MKP won... into Genius gg'ing.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Dubes
Profile Joined August 2010
United States327 Posts
February 09 2012 10:41 GMT
#1754
On February 09 2012 19:40 Obelisco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:39 Dubes wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:38 andaylin wrote:
Tastosis had no idea what was going on that game. probably first time ever in GSL mech vs Protoss lol.


revisit jinro vs mc gsl season 3

season 4, GSL Jan 2011


http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens3/vod/1457

season 3
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 09 2012 10:41 GMT
#1755
On February 09 2012 19:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:39 mvtaylor wrote:
Without the probe kills throughout the game MKP would have lost

Also.... having loads of Templar, but no storm
Researching Colossus range, but no Colossus...


Saw that too. Genius was clearly testing MKP by not scouting and not making the right units and upgrades.

Now it's time to show his true power.

+ Show Spoiler +
MWAHAHAHAHA.

or maybe Genius's super saiyan is fading and he's turning back into the normal Genius, gatekeeper of code s?
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
February 09 2012 10:41 GMT
#1756
On February 09 2012 19:40 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:39 Logros wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:38 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:37 McBengt wrote:
Now please, don't go off on how mech is good vs toss. MKP could have won woth SCVs with the amount of probes he killed.


And how did he kill those probes? WITH MECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah it's funny that people say Mech is bad! He just killed a ton of probes with hellions! Well herp derp, you're not gonna have any blue flame hellions going bio.


It's almost like terrans are so convinced that MMM is the only way to play TvP that they basically debunk any other strat that seems even slightly plausible. I'd love to see that kind of play more in TvP, MMM is getting boring.


Genius won all but the last engagement. I know people want to see mech in TvP, but that last game was an argument against Mech if anything :/
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
February 09 2012 10:42 GMT
#1757
i just yawned. XD
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
February 09 2012 10:42 GMT
#1758
On February 09 2012 19:40 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:39 Logros wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:38 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:37 McBengt wrote:
Now please, don't go off on how mech is good vs toss. MKP could have won woth SCVs with the amount of probes he killed.


And how did he kill those probes? WITH MECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah it's funny that people say Mech is bad! He just killed a ton of probes with hellions! Well herp derp, you're not gonna have any blue flame hellions going bio.


It's almost like terrans are so convinced that MMM is the only way to play TvP that they basically debunk any other strat that seems even slightly plausible. I'd love to see that kind of play more in TvP, MMM is getting boring.


Terrans are so convinced of that because it is like that. Imagine that MKP did not kill those 20 probes. Just imagine it.
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
February 09 2012 10:42 GMT
#1759
On February 09 2012 19:39 gruff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:38 -y0shi- wrote:
This is so stupid :/ MKP looses the battle soo badly but because he gets 3 hellions in he wins because toss has nothing that kills hellions before they kill your entire workerline >_<

They didn't kill his whole worker line and genius could have taken better precausions against this when he saw all the hellions, not to mention he still made a fight out of it.


25 Workers or something? And how exactly do you take precaution against this :/ And he made a fight out of it beccause mech truly is awful against toss xD
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
February 09 2012 10:42 GMT
#1760
On February 09 2012 19:38 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:37 McBengt wrote:
Now please, don't go off on how mech is good vs toss. MKP could have won woth SCVs with the amount of probes he killed.


And how did he kill those probes? WITH MECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This build won't last very long because it relies on Protoss not dealing well to the hellions. Once Protoss learn, they'll be able to counter it and mech without killing those probes is kinda bad. Game shouldn't have been that close with the amount of probes killed.

Either way it's a good build to vary it up a bit, but interesting to see if it'll last.
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