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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 09 2012 10:39 GMT
#1721
On February 09 2012 19:38 Wildmoon wrote:
I think the key to make this strat works is to mix in some ghost to emp those immortals.

the problem is. even supply mech vs protoss best you can do is trade even. and your units are more expensive and build way longer. and are way slower (except helions). its just not worthwhile.
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
February 09 2012 10:39 GMT
#1722
On February 09 2012 19:39 Chriscras wrote:
FUN FACT:

TASTELESS DOES NOT TUCK IN HIS SHIRT WHILE CASTING IN A SUIT

lol <3



He's badass like that !
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
February 09 2012 10:39 GMT
#1723
On February 09 2012 19:39 mvtaylor wrote:
Without the probe kills throughout the game MKP would have lost

Also.... having loads of Templar, but no storm
Researching Colossus range, but no Colossus...


But mech builds are based on worker kills, most mech builds in any match up lose if you don't kill workers
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
February 09 2012 10:39 GMT
#1724
On February 09 2012 19:38 Horseballs wrote:
That game was all about the early hellion run-by, not mech. I'd like to see it play out without killing 30 probes early. That's the hallmark of a stable strategy.


When you go Hellions you should be trying to kill worker lines as much as possible. I think that is a stable strat cause you allow yourself to get 3-4 bases while constantly running in Hellions to kill probes which is what MKP did can't push out when you will lose all your econ is seconds from 4 hellions.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
February 09 2012 10:39 GMT
#1725
On February 09 2012 19:38 -y0shi- wrote:
This is so stupid :/ MKP looses the battle soo badly but because he gets 3 hellions in he wins because toss has nothing that kills hellions before they kill your entire workerline >_<

They didn't kill his whole worker line and genius could have taken better precausions against this when he saw all the hellions, not to mention he still made a fight out of it.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 10:40:30
February 09 2012 10:39 GMT
#1726
On February 09 2012 19:39 Dubes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:38 andaylin wrote:
Tastosis had no idea what was going on that game. probably first time ever in GSL mech vs Protoss lol.


revisit jinro vs mc gsl season 3


Byun vs Oz on Tal'Darim was almost the exact same build as this too.
Ryncol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States980 Posts
February 09 2012 10:40 GMT
#1727
On February 09 2012 19:38 Scribble wrote:
MachineKingPrime :D

Haha nice, I like that.
Sooji
Profile Joined November 2010
United States121 Posts
February 09 2012 10:40 GMT
#1728
On February 09 2012 19:38 frucisky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:29 Horseballs wrote:
yep, hellions terrible against chargelots. Same as always.

I hopey you've eaten your words about hellions in TvP.


It was the run-bys that worked, the hellions didnt almost nothing in the engagements. They're rate of fire combined with their range makes them suck in engagements. Forcefields completely shut them down and their rate of fire makes kiting with any bio awkward at best.
Obelisco
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru1962 Posts
February 09 2012 10:40 GMT
#1729
On February 09 2012 19:39 Dubes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:38 andaylin wrote:
Tastosis had no idea what was going on that game. probably first time ever in GSL mech vs Protoss lol.


revisit jinro vs mc gsl season 3

season 4, GSL Jan 2011
murtas
Profile Joined December 2010
Portugal249 Posts
February 09 2012 10:40 GMT
#1730
YES! Marineking, thats the kind of nerdchills that saves esports. :p
SLeigher
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia6 Posts
February 09 2012 10:40 GMT
#1731
As many workers as Genius lost if he gets storm he probably still wins that game.
d6Mesh
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands445 Posts
February 09 2012 10:40 GMT
#1732
On February 09 2012 19:39 Swiv wrote:
why are there so many people there today?

Have you seen who's playing today?
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
February 09 2012 10:40 GMT
#1733
On February 09 2012 19:39 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:39 mvtaylor wrote:
Without the probe kills throughout the game MKP would have lost

Also.... having loads of Templar, but no storm
Researching Colossus range, but no Colossus...


But mech builds are based on worker kills, most mech builds in any match up lose if you don't kill workers

the ironic of mech
Stork[gm]
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
February 09 2012 10:40 GMT
#1734
On February 09 2012 19:39 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:38 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:37 McBengt wrote:
Now please, don't go off on how mech is good vs toss. MKP could have won woth SCVs with the amount of probes he killed.


And how did he kill those probes? WITH MECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah it's funny that people say Mech is bad! He just killed a ton of probes with hellions! Well herp derp, you're not gonna have any blue flame hellions going bio.


Well herp derp you can kill just as many with normal hellions because blue flame doesn't kill probes any quicker nowadays.
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-UMADIMSTYLIN-
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Cuba292 Posts
February 09 2012 10:40 GMT
#1735
MKP SO GOOD
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
February 09 2012 10:40 GMT
#1736
I hope MKP does Off the Record in english tomorrow :D
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
February 09 2012 10:40 GMT
#1737
On February 09 2012 19:39 Acnologia wrote:
The lack of storm was weird, maybe he continually expected thors so he could feedback them but they just never came


This is true...I never thought of that.
Now that thors have energy, having a few HT around to counter mech play isn't such a bad idea
moo...for DRG
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
February 09 2012 10:40 GMT
#1738
It is so interesting to see people cheering for Genius now, when just a few seasons ago he was along with people like Ensnare as those who needed to be gutted out of Code S.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Fearest
Profile Joined September 2011
854 Posts
February 09 2012 10:40 GMT
#1739
with good forcefield.. no helions will ever enter a base with a ramp
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
February 09 2012 10:40 GMT
#1740
On February 09 2012 19:39 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 19:38 Big J wrote:
On February 09 2012 19:37 McBengt wrote:
Now please, don't go off on how mech is good vs toss. MKP could have won woth SCVs with the amount of probes he killed.


And how did he kill those probes? WITH MECH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah it's funny that people say Mech is bad! He just killed a ton of probes with hellions! Well herp derp, you're not gonna have any blue flame hellions going bio.


It's almost like terrans are so convinced that MMM is the only way to play TvP that they basically debunk any other strat that seems even slightly plausible. I'd love to see that kind of play more in TvP, MMM is getting boring.
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